From e2eiod at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 12:17:16 2010 From: e2eiod at gmail.com (Robert Pearson) Date: Tue Mar 2 12:17:18 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Google Chrome Browser versus Linux Distro Chromium Message-ID: Anybody running the Linux Distro Chromium? I put the Google Chrome download for Ubuntu on my 9.04 Jaunty and it seems to look and work just like my Windows XP one. For my PCLinuxOS I looked in: LinuxChromiumPackages Chromium packages on various Linux distributions I then looked in PCLinuxOS SPM and found: chromium-browser Version: 4.0.269.34425-2pclos2010 Chromium-browser is the open-source project behind Google Chrome Chromium Dev Build This is an in-progress build of Chromium on Linux. We are still working on it. Parts of the browser are incomplete, poorly tuned and broken. User beware! ?Chromium? vs ?Google Chrome? Chromium is an open source browser project. Google Chrome is a browser from Google, based on the Chromium project. Don't file bugs without doing the work Every minute spent triaging and de-duplicating bugs is a minute spent not fixing them. If you have a good bug report (e.g. includes a stack trace or a reduced test case), first verify it exists in the latest build, then verify it hasn't been filed already, then file your bug using the Linux-specific template. How to help Chromium is an open source project, and you are welcome to help out. We have documentation for developers as well as mailing lists and an IRC channel. I also looked at: "Chromium Browser Vs Google Chrome" IMHO, the Chromium browser looks pretty primitive versus Google Chrome. Probably normal for a "beta" release. From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 03:29:09 2010 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Wed Mar 3 03:29:11 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Software RAID suggestions In-Reply-To: <79ec289f1002261451q217f4518nbc3fa547a1f88330@mail.gmail.com> References: <869de8471002220044p56cfb0dbq9d5262811ddf004a@mail.gmail.com> <4c0ec4451002230826y38bb3e24s77b39951c5197b1a@mail.gmail.com> <4c0ec4451002230832v266bde64h202e6a095bd8e80f@mail.gmail.com> <4B840997.2060204@channingc.com> <869de8471002261139g682c6330x4a1ebd081e2a7cfb@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1002261451q217f4518nbc3fa547a1f88330@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <869de8471003030129h78c28f4bn1e9234f6e5245e4a@mail.gmail.com> Hey all, well I _finally_ gave up on trying to use the RAID card as a RAID card and figured I can beat the snot out of software raid before I let the server go live to check on data errors, etc. I noticed something odd about this setup and after a while, I did end up killing this build. I did some research and noticed that if I used --force (to force mdadm to use only the drives I specified) mdstat showed [UUUU] and appears to be rebuilding properly. An additional change I made is I went in and created partitions and made them all type fd (linux raid auto) and went into the RAID card's BIOS and made sure that the disks weren't in JBOD mode. Although Linux saw the four drives, it really freaked out on the partition types but fdisk led me to believe the drives were ready to go. Now, the only concern I have is that when the server reboots, will mdadm mount the RAID using all four drives like I specified or will it break the array at boot requiring me to rebuild it again manually? When I did the reinstall after making sure that the card was set for JBOD, the installer saw the four drives but proceeded to mark the fourth offline. [UUU_] When I used mdadm --stop /dev/md0 and then respecified my mdadm create command with --force it did not generate any errors and is creating the array as I designated with all drives marked online. I guess now, it's the waiting game as I wait an almost 36 hours for the array to build. Since we're on the subject, can anyone recommend a PCI 4 port SATA card that doesn't have RAID on it and that works well with Linux? I found a $30 card that uses the silicon labs chipset, but the most recent data I could find on it regarding linux support was from over two years ago and that it wasn't very good. Also, (and I'm sure this is a stupid as heck question) since I'm using software RAID, would a faster proc mean better throughput? Right now the "server" is a P-II 300MHz with 512MB RAM and was wondering if I will need to dig a better machine out of storage (think I have a P-III 850 somewhere using 256MB RDRAM) but getting it out of storage is going to take an act of god and an act of congress. This isn't going to be a "high load" server, just a fileserver for XBMC and windows files. Thank you all for your suggestions, it's definitely a learning experience. FIRESTORM_v1 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Jeremy Mann wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:39 PM, FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: > >> My only concern is that the third line [UUU_] looks a little odd. ? I >> expected [UUUU] since I have 4 SATA drives and I specified their >> devices on the commandline: >> >> # ?mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdb >> /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde >> >> I don't recall anyone specifying what the [UUU_] but can someone tell >> me if I'm chasing ghosts or letting myself get too nervous? > > Matt, "_" means one drive is offline, but that could be the one that > is rebuilding. Once its finished check it again with : > > cat /proc/mdstat > > If it still shows one drive as "_", you got problems and your RAID > array is running in degraded mode. > > > -- > Jeremy Mann > jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu > > University of Texas Health Science Center > Bioinformatics Core Facility > http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu > Phone: (210) 567-2672 > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 03:41:47 2010 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Wed Mar 3 03:41:50 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Software RAID suggestions In-Reply-To: <869de8471003030129h78c28f4bn1e9234f6e5245e4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <869de8471002220044p56cfb0dbq9d5262811ddf004a@mail.gmail.com> <4c0ec4451002230826y38bb3e24s77b39951c5197b1a@mail.gmail.com> <4c0ec4451002230832v266bde64h202e6a095bd8e80f@mail.gmail.com> <4B840997.2060204@channingc.com> <869de8471002261139g682c6330x4a1ebd081e2a7cfb@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1002261451q217f4518nbc3fa547a1f88330@mail.gmail.com> <869de8471003030129h78c28f4bn1e9234f6e5245e4a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <869de8471003030141m5aef1391lc4723a70fb573dc8@mail.gmail.com> ok, so maybe writing email over RDP over SSH isn't the best idea... - the raid card IS in JBOD mode now for this rebuild - John, I would be very interested in your layout information that bounced. Please send it to me if you still have it written up. Thank you. FIRESTORM_v1 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:29 AM, FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: > Hey all, well I _finally_ gave up on trying to use the RAID card as a > RAID card and figured I can beat the snot out of software raid before > I let the server go live to check on data errors, etc. > > I noticed something odd about this setup and after a while, I did end > up killing this build. ?I did some research and noticed that if I used > --force (to force mdadm to use only the drives I specified) mdstat > showed [UUUU] and appears to be rebuilding properly. ?An additional > change I made is I went in and created partitions and made them all > type fd (linux raid auto) and went into the RAID card's BIOS and made > sure that the disks weren't in JBOD mode. ?Although Linux saw the four > drives, it really freaked out on the partition types but fdisk led me > to believe the drives were ready to go. > > Now, the only concern I have is that when the server reboots, will > mdadm mount the RAID using all four drives like I specified or will it > break the array at boot requiring me to rebuild it again manually? > > When I did the reinstall after making sure that the card was set for > JBOD, the installer saw the four drives but proceeded to mark the > fourth offline. [UUU_] > > When I used mdadm --stop /dev/md0 and then respecified my mdadm create > command with --force it did not generate any errors and is creating > the array as I designated with all drives marked online. ?I guess now, > it's the waiting game as I wait an almost 36 hours for the array to > build. > > Since we're on the subject, can anyone recommend a PCI 4 port SATA > card that doesn't have RAID on it and that works well with Linux? ?I > found a $30 card that uses the silicon labs chipset, but the most > recent data I could find on it regarding linux support was from over > two years ago and that it wasn't very good. > > Also, (and I'm sure this is a stupid as heck question) since I'm using > software RAID, would a faster proc mean better throughput? ?Right now > the "server" is a P-II 300MHz with 512MB RAM and was wondering if I > will need to dig a better machine out of storage (think I have a P-III > 850 somewhere using 256MB RDRAM) but getting it out of storage is > going to take an act of god and an act of congress. > > This isn't going to be a "high load" server, just a fileserver for > XBMC and windows files. > > Thank you all for your suggestions, it's definitely a learning experience. > > FIRESTORM_v1 > > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Jeremy Mann wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:39 PM, FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: >> >>> My only concern is that the third line [UUU_] looks a little odd. ? I >>> expected [UUUU] since I have 4 SATA drives and I specified their >>> devices on the commandline: >>> >>> # ?mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdb >>> /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde >>> >>> I don't recall anyone specifying what the [UUU_] but can someone tell >>> me if I'm chasing ghosts or letting myself get too nervous? >> >> Matt, "_" means one drive is offline, but that could be the one that >> is rebuilding. Once its finished check it again with : >> >> cat /proc/mdstat >> >> If it still shows one drive as "_", you got problems and your RAID >> array is running in degraded mode. >> >> >> -- >> Jeremy Mann >> jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu >> >> University of Texas Health Science Center >> Bioinformatics Core Facility >> http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu >> Phone: (210) 567-2672 >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> SATLUG mailing list >> SATLUG@satlug.org >> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe >> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) >> > From ovalvw57 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 2 23:35:09 2010 From: ovalvw57 at yahoo.com (Typing on an upside-down keyboard.) Date: Wed Mar 3 08:35:10 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Google Chrome Browser versus Linux Distro Chromium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <353466.14010.qm@web113519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Robert Pearson wrote: > Anybody running the Linux Distro Chromium? I've got it installed on a SUSE 11.2 box. About the only difference I've seen is it can't make an application short cut. It gives me an error that it doesn't recognize my desktop environment (KDE 4.X). Otherwise, hmmmm... 'bout the same. From art.hall at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 5 08:24:56 2010 From: art.hall at sbcglobal.net (Arthur Hall) Date: Fri Mar 5 08:25:02 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Power Supply Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <269807.35724.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, dennis@myediscounts.com wrote: From: dennis@myediscounts.com Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Power Supply Request To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:17 PM We might have that in the back of our warehouse, I'll check and let you know. thanks Dennis > Dennis, Did you ever find the?Dell Dimension 4600C slimline power supply in your warehouse?? It's the one?that?also fits a Dell Optiplex GX260, 270, or 280, according to the information?I have.??I'd love to be able to make that Dell 4600C hum again.?Thanks in advance for oiffering and looking. Art Hall From dennis at myediscounts.com Fri Mar 5 12:44:09 2010 From: dennis at myediscounts.com (dennis@myediscounts.com) Date: Fri Mar 5 12:44:52 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Power Supply Request In-Reply-To: <269807.35724.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <269807.35724.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2c0af33ef91cd80413bf6d0347acf8e1.squirrel@emailmg.ipower.com> Sorry, your email got lost in the maze of emails, I have some that I believe will work, they came out of some 280's, you are more than welcome to it. We are located at 1907 Shipman Drive, exit 160 off of HI35. thanks Dennis > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, dennis@myediscounts.com > wrote: > > > From: dennis@myediscounts.com > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Power Supply Request > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:17 PM > > > We might have that in the back of our warehouse, I'll check and let you > know. > thanks > Dennis > >> > Dennis, > Did you ever find the?Dell Dimension 4600C slimline power supply in your > warehouse?? It's the one?that?also fits a Dell Optiplex GX260, 270, or > 280, according to the information?I have.??I'd love to be able to make > that Dell 4600C hum again.?Thanks in advance for oiffering and looking. > Art Hall > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From e2eiod at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 22:57:02 2010 From: e2eiod at gmail.com (Robert Pearson) Date: Sun Mar 7 22:57:05 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Google Chrome Browser versus Linux Distro Chromium In-Reply-To: <353466.14010.qm@web113519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <353466.14010.qm@web113519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Typing on an upside-down keyboard. wrote: > --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Robert Pearson wrote: > >> Anybody running the Linux Distro Chromium? > > I've got it installed on a SUSE 11.2 box. About the only difference I've seen is it can't make an application short cut. It gives me an error that it doesn't recognize my desktop environment (KDE 4.X). Otherwise, hmmmm... 'bout the same. > > > > > -- Thanks for the feedback. I run Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty and PCLinuxOS 2009.?. I installed Chrome on Ubuntu and ran it for a while. It had some good points and some not so good. I have since removed it. PCLinuxOS 2009.? Firefox was really acting sluggish and jerky for quite a while. I wanted to try Chrome there to see if it made a difference. If there is a version for PCLinuxOS it is not as mature as the ones already built on the Chrome site. The reason I removed Chrome from Ubuntu is that I am having the same Firefox problem on Ubuntu and PCLinuxOS but much worse on PCLOS. Chrome on Ubuntu had the same problem as Firefox but gave me a clue. The clue was the error message "Resolving host" when it was hanging. Both Firefox and Chrome on Ubuntu and Firefox on PCLinuxOS give a bunch of RX and TX packets "errors" for "ifconfig -a". I don't normally see any errors there. The errors get much worse when Firefox is started and run. The same for Chrome. Chrome gives fewer total errors and Firefox gives different error rates for different sites. I thought at first Google had a problem because the errors seemed worse when I went to a Google app. I'm guessing I have a network problem on my DSL line. Not sure why. It looks like a DNS resolve problem. I'm not sure if loading my own DNS would solve the problem or have any effect at all. I have a little troubleshooting to do. For a while I paid for both DSL and Cable Internet. I used which ever one was working best at the time and some days both for different networks to compare. They do vary even on a daily basis. From hharadon at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 00:12:09 2010 From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon) Date: Wed Mar 10 00:12:11 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Amazing Show ! Thursday Night ! Message-ID: You will be dazzled by Ernest De Leon's DD-WRT install demo. Come to SAC at 7 PM, room 122 (probably) Nail Tech. Center. Remember that we can park in student parking areas. Please put a sign on the dashboard saying "Attending SAC Sponsored Event NTC 122" See you there, Howard -- Howard Haradon San Antonio, TX USA From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Thu Mar 11 14:26:05 2010 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Thu Mar 11 18:45:46 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: Job Opening in Nashville In-Reply-To: <4B994C08.6000100@camerontech.com> References: <4B994C08.6000100@camerontech.com> Message-ID: <4B9951DD.4060405@camerontech.com> Sorry, forgot to mention - the salary is $80-90K. On 03/11/2010 02:01 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > Contact Jim Goldstein at Jim.Goldstein@rht.com, and please tell him I > sent you. > > Senior Open Source Systems Engineer > > Summary: Design, install, configure and maintain organization's > operating systems. Analyze and resolve problems associated with server > hardware, Open Source UNIX, and applications software. Detect, diagnose, > and fix Open Source UNIX-related problems on server systems. Perform a > wide variety of tasks in software/hardware maintenance and operational > support of Open Source UNIX server systems. Research and plan > technology improvements, as well as design disaster recovery plans. > Apply knowledge, skills, and experience in consulting arrangements with > external customers. > > Primary Responsibilities > > Routine maintenance and troubleshooting of Open Source UNIX (Redhat > (CentOS), BSD and Debian) servers including security updates, > performance monitoring and capacity planning. > > Provide internal and external support for Open Source UNIX-based systems > and standard applications such as Apache, BIND, Zimbra, Sendmail, > Postfix, Courier-IMAP and OpenLDAP. > > Manage and maintain the centralized web filtering system used by our > customers using WCCP, ICAP and knowledge of general website design > methodology. > > Working knowledge of the OSI Application Model, the TCP/IP stack, and > basic Internet protocols such as SMTP, DNS, and HTTP to both help design > solutions and troubleshoot customer and production issues. > > Extensive Open Source UNIX scripting/automation experience in PHP, PERL > and shell scripts. > > Working knowledge of SQL, basic database management and Open Source UNIX > database packages ( MySQL, PostgreSQL) > > Provide remote assistance to the Field Engineering Team in support of > production servers in the field. > > Research and recommend system and business process improvements. > > Research and recommend technology or architecture improvements in a very > dynamic, multi-vendor network. > > Lead projects, interface with other groups, and apply technology > expertise to resolve unique problems. > > Candidate must be able to work in a fast-paced, deadline- and > customer-driven environment and accomplish goals with little supervision. > > Support ?on-call? duties as required. > > > > > Competencies: > To perform the job successfully, an individual should demonstrate the > following competencies: > > Technical Behavioral__________ > Customer focus with operational fit * Achieves Results * > Planning, Prioritizing and Goal Setting **Continuous Learning *** > Analytical Thinking and processing ** Team Player ** > Communications * Ownership *** > Systematic Problem Solving *** Quality Oriented * > > > > * Company wide competency > **Department wide competency > *** Job competency > > > Qualifications > To perform this job successfully, an individual must be able to perform > each essential duty satisfactorily. The requirements listed below are > representative of the knowledge, skill, and/or ability required. > Reasonable accommodations may be made to enable individuals with > disabilities to perform the essential functions. > > Education and/or Experience: > This position requires 5 or more years experience supporting Open Source > UNIX (Linux and BSD) servers and applications in a design and > architecture capacity. Hands-on experience with these operating systems > is required. Foundational knowledge of the OSI Application Model, the > TCP/IP stack, and basic Internet protocols such as SMTP, DNS, and HTTP. > Experience with some or all of the following applications are > preferred: BIND 8/9, Bluecoat SGOS, Apache, Zimbra, Tomcat, Sendmail, > Postfix, Courier, MailScanner, SpamAssassin, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Nagios, > Cricket, Rancid, SNMP, OpenLDAP, PHP, Perl, and shell scripting. Basic > knowledge of SQL, Cisco IOS and routing preferred. Experience working in > an ISP environment preferred. Linux Certifications a plus. > > Language Skills: > Excellent oral and written skills with ability to present technical > information in an understandable way to clients as well as non-technical > associates. Ability to read, analyze, and interpret general business > periodicals, professional journals, or technical procedures. Ability to > write reports, business correspondence, and procedure manuals. > > Reasoning Ability: > Ability to define problems, collect data, establish facts, and draw > valid conclusions. Ability to interpret an extensive variety of > technical instructions and deal with several abstract and concrete > variables. > > Physical Demands: > While performing the duties of this job, the employee is regularly > required to sit and talk or hear. The employee is occasionally required > to stand and walk. The employee must occasionally lift and/or move up to > 50 pounds. > > Work Environment: > The noise level in the work environment is moderate. > > Work Hours: > Company hours accommodate our customer?s needs which require coverage on > a rotating weekly, on-call schedule. Late night maintenance and > emergency trouble restoration will be required as necessary. This is an > exempt position so the hours of work will be dependent on the work that > needs to be addressed to accomplish the work ascribed to this position. > Up to 10% travel may be required. > From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Thu Mar 11 14:01:12 2010 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Thu Mar 11 18:45:47 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Job Opening in Nashville Message-ID: <4B994C08.6000100@camerontech.com> Contact Jim Goldstein at Jim.Goldstein@rht.com, and please tell him I sent you. Senior Open Source Systems Engineer Summary: Design, install, configure and maintain organization's operating systems. Analyze and resolve problems associated with server hardware, Open Source UNIX, and applications software. Detect, diagnose, and fix Open Source UNIX-related problems on server systems. Perform a wide variety of tasks in software/hardware maintenance and operational support of Open Source UNIX server systems. Research and plan technology improvements, as well as design disaster recovery plans. Apply knowledge, skills, and experience in consulting arrangements with external customers. Primary Responsibilities Routine maintenance and troubleshooting of Open Source UNIX (Redhat (CentOS), BSD and Debian) servers including security updates, performance monitoring and capacity planning. Provide internal and external support for Open Source UNIX-based systems and standard applications such as Apache, BIND, Zimbra, Sendmail, Postfix, Courier-IMAP and OpenLDAP. Manage and maintain the centralized web filtering system used by our customers using WCCP, ICAP and knowledge of general website design methodology. Working knowledge of the OSI Application Model, the TCP/IP stack, and basic Internet protocols such as SMTP, DNS, and HTTP to both help design solutions and troubleshoot customer and production issues. Extensive Open Source UNIX scripting/automation experience in PHP, PERL and shell scripts. Working knowledge of SQL, basic database management and Open Source UNIX database packages ( MySQL, PostgreSQL) Provide remote assistance to the Field Engineering Team in support of production servers in the field. Research and recommend system and business process improvements. Research and recommend technology or architecture improvements in a very dynamic, multi-vendor network. Lead projects, interface with other groups, and apply technology expertise to resolve unique problems. Candidate must be able to work in a fast-paced, deadline- and customer-driven environment and accomplish goals with little supervision. Support ?on-call? duties as required. Competencies: To perform the job successfully, an individual should demonstrate the following competencies: Technical Behavioral__________ Customer focus with operational fit * Achieves Results * Planning, Prioritizing and Goal Setting **Continuous Learning *** Analytical Thinking and processing ** Team Player ** Communications * Ownership *** Systematic Problem Solving *** Quality Oriented * * Company wide competency **Department wide competency *** Job competency Qualifications To perform this job successfully, an individual must be able to perform each essential duty satisfactorily. The requirements listed below are representative of the knowledge, skill, and/or ability required. Reasonable accommodations may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions. Education and/or Experience: This position requires 5 or more years experience supporting Open Source UNIX (Linux and BSD) servers and applications in a design and architecture capacity. Hands-on experience with these operating systems is required. Foundational knowledge of the OSI Application Model, the TCP/IP stack, and basic Internet protocols such as SMTP, DNS, and HTTP. Experience with some or all of the following applications are preferred: BIND 8/9, Bluecoat SGOS, Apache, Zimbra, Tomcat, Sendmail, Postfix, Courier, MailScanner, SpamAssassin, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Nagios, Cricket, Rancid, SNMP, OpenLDAP, PHP, Perl, and shell scripting. Basic knowledge of SQL, Cisco IOS and routing preferred. Experience working in an ISP environment preferred. Linux Certifications a plus. Language Skills: Excellent oral and written skills with ability to present technical information in an understandable way to clients as well as non-technical associates. Ability to read, analyze, and interpret general business periodicals, professional journals, or technical procedures. Ability to write reports, business correspondence, and procedure manuals. Reasoning Ability: Ability to define problems, collect data, establish facts, and draw valid conclusions. Ability to interpret an extensive variety of technical instructions and deal with several abstract and concrete variables. Physical Demands: While performing the duties of this job, the employee is regularly required to sit and talk or hear. The employee is occasionally required to stand and walk. The employee must occasionally lift and/or move up to 50 pounds. Work Environment: The noise level in the work environment is moderate. Work Hours: Company hours accommodate our customer?s needs which require coverage on a rotating weekly, on-call schedule. Late night maintenance and emergency trouble restoration will be required as necessary. This is an exempt position so the hours of work will be dependent on the work that needs to be addressed to accomplish the work ascribed to this position. Up to 10% travel may be required. From pcdls.ronin at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 22:17:50 2010 From: pcdls.ronin at gmail.com (pcdls.ronin) Date: Thu Mar 11 22:17:52 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] That was a nice presentation on DD-WRT Message-ID: <4B99C06E.8000407@gmail.com> Have to say that the presentation on DD-WRT was worth driving downtown to see. Thanks, Ernest. I really enjoyed it. In the future, maybe we could discuss open, flexible, network hardware platforms that release people from the feature loss associated with these newer routers? Or, maybe even discuss what it would take to design such a platform entirely in open-source software and release it under something similar to GPL? A "just for fun" discussion. Nothing serious (yet?). Pete From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Fri Mar 12 09:44:43 2010 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (redpill) Date: Fri Mar 12 09:44:50 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] That was a nice presentation on DD-WRT In-Reply-To: <4B99C06E.8000407@gmail.com> References: <4B99C06E.8000407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1268408683.17781.0.camel@redpill-laptop> I agree and I am looking forward to Ernest's KVM/Xen presentation next month. Todd On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 22:17 -0600, pcdls.ronin wrote: > Have to say that the presentation on DD-WRT was worth driving downtown > to see. Thanks, Ernest. I really enjoyed it. > > In the future, maybe we could discuss open, flexible, network hardware > platforms that release people from the feature loss associated with > these newer routers? Or, maybe even discuss what it would take to > design such a platform entirely in open-source software and release it > under something similar to GPL? A "just for fun" discussion. Nothing > serious (yet?). > > Pete From satlug at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 12 11:41:11 2010 From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright) Date: Fri Mar 12 11:41:13 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] FCC Broadband Test Message-ID: There may be some quibble with the methods, but the FCC is at least trying to honor their part of the "Broadband Technology Opportunities Program" included in recent law. Because the various ISPs are reluctant to publish real data, the FCC is asking subscribers to test/report their broadband speeds so the FCC can compile their own maps. If broadband is not available, there is a form to report that as well. Requires Flash and Java; works from Debian & Iceweasel. Thanks to the UF forum for the news. --Don Story about the test. http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/03/fcc-broadband-test/ Actual FCC site: http://www.broadband.gov/ -- Some people call 9-1-1 Some people are 9-1-1 Some people are the reason for 9-1-1 From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 12:11:42 2010 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Fri Mar 12 12:11:48 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] FCC Broadband Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B9A83DE.4090409@gmail.com> Don Wright wrote: > There may be some quibble with the methods, but the FCC is at least > trying to honor their part of the "Broadband Technology Opportunities > Program" included in recent law. Because the various ISPs are reluctant > to publish real data, the FCC is asking subscribers to test/report their > broadband speeds so the FCC can compile their own maps. If broadband is > not available, there is a form to report that as well. > > Requires Flash and Java; works from Debian & Iceweasel. > > Thanks to the UF forum for the news. --Don > > > Story about the test. > http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/03/fcc-broadband-test/ > > Actual FCC site: > http://www.broadband.gov/ My results: Download 23718 kbps Upload 1910 kbps Latency 22 ms Jitter 2 ms Not too bad for Time Warner, but it's in the middle of the day. Not a peak usage time for a home system. -- Bruce From dondavis at reglue.org Fri Mar 12 12:46:53 2010 From: dondavis at reglue.org (Don Davis) Date: Fri Mar 12 12:46:52 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] FCC Broadband Test In-Reply-To: <4B9A83DE.4090409@gmail.com> References: <4B9A83DE.4090409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B9A8C1D.3000701@reglue.org> > My results: > > Download 23718 kbps > Upload 1910 kbps > Latency 22 ms > Jitter 2 ms > > Not too bad for Time Warner, but it's in the middle of the day. Not a > peak usage time for a home system. > My middle of the day Grande service: Download 20151 kbps Upload 1120 kbps Latency 28 ms Jitter 13 ms From lgj at usenix.org Fri Mar 12 13:06:03 2010 From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel Garth Jones) Date: Fri Mar 12 13:06:08 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] SSV '10 Call for Papers Now Available Message-ID: On behalf of the 5th International Workshop on Systems Software Verification (SSV '10) program committee, we'd like to invite you to contribute papers that focus on finding real, applicable solutions to systems software verification problems. Paper registration and abstracts are due Friday, May 28, 2010, 11:59 p.m. Samoan time (UTC-11). Industrial-strength software analysis and verification has advanced in recent years through the introduction of model checking, automated and interactive theorem proving, and static analysis techniques, as well as correctness by design, correctness by contract, and model-driven development. However, many techniques are working under restrictive assumptions that are invalidated by complex embedded systems software such as operating system kernels, low-level device drivers, or microcontroller code. The aim of this workshop is to bring together researchers and developers from both academia and industry who are facing real software and real problems with the goal of finding real, applicable solutions. By "real" we mean problems such as time-to-market or reliability that the industry is facing. A real solution is one that is applicable to the problem in industry and not one that only applies to an abstract, academic, toy version of it. In this workshop we will discuss software analysis and development techniques and tools; this forum will serve as a platform to discuss open problems and future challenges in dealing with existing and upcoming systems-level code. Topics include but are not limited to: * Model checking * Automated and interactive theorem proving * Static analysis * Automated testing * Model-driven development * Embedded systems development * Programming languages * Verifying compilers * Software certification * Software tools * Experience reports Paper registration and abstracts are due Friday, May 28, 2010, 11:59 p.m. Samoan time (UTC-11). For more details on the submission process, please see the complete Call for Papers at: http://www.usenix.org/ssv10/cfpa/ SSV '10 will be held immediately following the 9th USENIX Symposium on Operating Systems Design and Implementation (OSDI '10), which will take place October 4-6, 2010. We look forward to receiving your submissions! Ralf Huuck, NICTA and University of New South Wales, Australia Gerwin Klein, NICTA and University of New South Wales, Australia Bastian Schlich, RWTH Aachen University, Germany SSV '10 Program Co-Chairs ssv10chairs@usenix.org P.S. We'd like to thank our sponsors NICTA and Microsoft Research for their support. --------------------------------- Call for Papers 5th International Workshop on Systems Software Verification October 6-7, 2010 Vancouver, BC, Canada http://www.usenix.org/ssv10/cfpa/ Paper registration and abstracts due: Friday, May 28, 2010, 11:59 p.m. Samoan time (UTC-11) From sahensch at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 13:58:09 2010 From: sahensch at gmail.com (Scott Hensch) Date: Fri Mar 12 13:58:15 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] FCC Broadband Test In-Reply-To: <4B9A8C1D.3000701@reglue.org> References: <4B9A83DE.4090409@gmail.com> <4B9A8C1D.3000701@reglue.org> Message-ID: <56b38ee61003121158r1b14622cidbcb13574655fbf5@mail.gmail.com> My middle day TW service D - 17818 U - 488 L - 30 J - 4 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Don Davis wrote: > >> My results: >> >> Download 23718 kbps >> Upload ? ?1910 kbps >> Latency ? ? 22 ms >> Jitter ? ? ? 2 ms >> >> Not too bad for Time Warner, but it's in the middle of the day. ?Not a >> peak usage time for a home system. >> > > My middle of the day Grande service: > Download 20151 kbps > Upload ? ?1120 kbps > Latency ? ? 28 ms > Jitter ? ? ?13 ms > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Fri Mar 12 15:08:15 2010 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (redpill) Date: Fri Mar 12 15:08:16 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] FCC Broadband Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1268428095.17781.28.camel@redpill-laptop> I tested at: 6833 kbps down 434 kbps up 29 ms latency 5 ms jitter ISP is Grande Todd On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 11:41 -0600, Don Wright wrote: > There may be some quibble with the methods, but the FCC is at least > trying to honor their part of the "Broadband Technology Opportunities > Program" included in recent law. Because the various ISPs are reluctant > to publish real data, the FCC is asking subscribers to test/report their > broadband speeds so the FCC can compile their own maps. If broadband is > not available, there is a form to report that as well. > > Requires Flash and Java; works from Debian & Iceweasel. > > Thanks to the UF forum for the news. --Don > > > Story about the test. > http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/03/fcc-broadband-test/ > > Actual FCC site: > http://www.broadband.gov/ > > -- > Some people call 9-1-1 > Some people are 9-1-1 > Some people are the reason for 9-1-1 From hharadon at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 17:00:14 2010 From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon) Date: Fri Mar 12 17:00:19 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] FCC Broadband Test In-Reply-To: <1268428095.17781.28.camel@redpill-laptop> References: <1268428095.17781.28.camel@redpill-laptop> Message-ID: OK, I tried and got: Down 2579Kbps Up 427Kbps Latency 25ms Jitter 5ms This is SBC's DSL with an alleged (but never realized) 3.0 Mbps down speed. Actually, these results are better than my usual scores on speedtest.net or on DSLreports. I usually test around 2.4Mbps on the download. What the heck is jitter? Howard -- Howard Haradon San Antonio, TX USA From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Fri Mar 12 17:18:20 2010 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Fri Mar 12 17:18:24 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] FCC Broadband Test In-Reply-To: References: <1268428095.17781.28.camel@redpill-laptop> Message-ID: <4B9ACBBC.5010604@gmail.com> Howard Haradon wrote: > What the heck is jitter? The variation in round trip time. For instance, three tries: 22ms, 24ms, 27ms. The average is 24.3ms. The differences are 2.3, 0.3, and 2.7. The average of the differences is the jitter. In this case, about 1.77ms (round to 2ms). -- Bruce From dondavis at reglue.org Sat Mar 13 12:09:07 2010 From: dondavis at reglue.org (Don Davis) Date: Sat Mar 13 12:09:12 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux party in Austin on Sunday Message-ID: <4B9BD4C3.4020005@reglue.org> I've attached a copy of a Linux Party on Sunday in Austin: First off, I want to thank Jeff Sullivan representing Dell for meeting me at at Round Rock grocery store - We got 3 shopping carts full of soft drinks and snacks from Dell! $310 donation! Also I want to thank Texas Coworking for hosting the space,internet,electricity for free! Anyone else is welcome to contribute, a tip jar will be available to recoup beer/wine/rum/tequila, but it is free of charge, it has already been paid for. ANY OTHER companies are welcome to step up and donate. We will put a sign up acknowledging your support. SUNDAY, 1 DAY AWAY 1:00pm Texas Coworking, 200 E. 6th Street, 3rd Floor. -- Austin http://www.texascoworking.com/ Above B.D. Riley's pub on 6th street, right near the Driskill Hotel. When: 1:00pm to 4:30pm Sunday March 14. Locals who want to help, please show up at 12:00pm. ================= Today at grocery store, a partial list of what I got: Napkins/Plates/Cups for about 100 people V8 Juice Real orange juice Cranberry Juice Grape juice Throwback Pepsi, full sugar Pepsi (not HF corn)! Throwback Mountain Dew, full sugar some diet and caffeine free soda I will make a point to reserve, please request. Dr. Pepper Cheese, cheddar Cheese, Swiss Cheese, Munster Cheese, Blue Cheese, MORE CHEESE Several pounds of peperoni Salami Corn Chips and Salsa (4 kinds of salsa) Potatoes Chips Olives and pickles Limes Bottled water Bananas This is just going by my tired memory, a partial list. Is anyone organizing car pools, parking assistance, etc? Get the chatter going. The Facebook event page has almost 40 people who have RSVP - we have no real idea how big attendance will be on this event! chatter, telephone people - tell them to come. Know a friend who has a big MythTV system all working and in order -bring it down. Someone have a decent set of computer speakers we could plug MP3 into for music? Someone have a Nintendo Wii they want to bring? A PS3 running Linux? The primary concern is social party here. Do not feel obligated to bring your computer or such. You can talk about anything and everything, it's just a party folks! From pjcrux at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 15:24:57 2010 From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter Cross) Date: Tue Mar 16 15:28:13 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] DD-WRT presentation from the last meeting. Message-ID: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> First my apologies for spamming the list. Ernest, I don't have your email address. Did you have a presentation (powerpoint, pdf, etc) from the last meeting that I can take a look at. I wasn't able to make the meeting. Once again my apologies. -- Cheers! Peter J. Cross San Antonio, TX "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions" -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51 Please consider the environment before printing this email From hc at lookcee.com Tue Mar 16 15:48:24 2010 From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee) Date: Tue Mar 16 15:48:26 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] DD-WRT presentation from the last meeting. In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B9FEE98.6060709@lookcee.com> Peter Cross wrote: > First my apologies for spamming the list. > > Ernest, I don't have your email address. Did you have a presentation > (powerpoint, pdf, etc) from the last meeting that I can take a look at. I > wasn't able to make the meeting. > > Once again my apologies. hmmm confused why is this spam ... this ? may be but .... From pcdls.ronin at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 16:38:49 2010 From: pcdls.ronin at gmail.com (pcdls.ronin) Date: Tue Mar 16 16:39:38 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] DD-WRT presentation from the last meeting. In-Reply-To: <4B9FEE98.6060709@lookcee.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> <4B9FEE98.6060709@lookcee.com> Message-ID: <4B9FFA69.3020800@gmail.com> Herb Cee wrote: > Peter Cross wrote: >> First my apologies for spamming the list. >> >> Ernest, I don't have your email address. Did you have a presentation >> (powerpoint, pdf, etc) from the last meeting that I can take a look >> at. I >> wasn't able to make the meeting. >> >> Once again my apologies. > > hmmm confused why is this spam ... this ? may be but .... > Yeah, I thought that was a little weird, too.....according to Wikipedia: "Spam has several definitions varying by source. * /Unsolicited bulk e-mail/ (UBE)?unsolicited e-mail, sent in large quantities. * /Unsolicited commercial e-mail/ (UCE)?this more restrictive definition is used by regulators whose mandate is to regulate commerce, such as the U.S. Federal Trade Commission ." I don't think that email was either unsolicited (you are a member of this list, after all) nor distributed in large quantities. Nor was it commercial in nature. I wouldn't sweat it or apologize for it. But, I guess, ultimately, that's up to the guys managing the list. ;) From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 16:56:33 2010 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Tue Mar 16 16:58:31 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] DD-WRT presentation from the last meeting. In-Reply-To: <4B9FFA69.3020800@gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> <4B9FEE98.6060709@lookcee.com> <4B9FFA69.3020800@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B9FFE91.1020200@gmail.com> pcdls.ronin wrote: > Herb Cee wrote: >> Peter Cross wrote: >>> First my apologies for spamming the list. >>> >>> Ernest, I don't have your email address. Did you have a presentation >>> (powerpoint, pdf, etc) from the last meeting that I can take a look >>> at. I >>> wasn't able to make the meeting. >>> >>> Once again my apologies. >> hmmm confused why is this spam ... this ? may be but .... >> > Yeah, I thought that was a little weird, too.....according to Wikipedia: > > "Spam has several definitions varying by source. > > * /Unsolicited bulk e-mail/ (UBE)???unsolicited e-mail, sent in large > quantities. > * /Unsolicited commercial e-mail/ (UCE)???this more restrictive > definition is used by regulators whose mandate is to regulate > commerce, such as the U.S. Federal Trade Commission > ." > > > I don't think that email was either unsolicited (you are a member of > this list, after all) nor distributed in large quantities. Nor was it > commercial in nature. I wouldn't sweat it or apologize for it. But, I > guess, ultimately, that's up to the guys managing the list. ;) Well, I manage the list and I don't consider it spam. There was a single destination and it was on-topic arising from the last meeting. -- Bruce From pjcrux at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 17:06:55 2010 From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter Cross) Date: Tue Mar 16 17:06:57 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] DD-WRT presentation from the last meeting. In-Reply-To: <4B9FFE91.1020200@gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> <4B9FEE98.6060709@lookcee.com> <4B9FFA69.3020800@gmail.com> <4B9FFE91.1020200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c63fb3d1003161506g123b8845y29ef770324762946@mail.gmail.com> lol... Now that that's taken care of.... Ernest whenever you can kind sir, I would appreciate it. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > pcdls.ronin wrote: > >> Herb Cee wrote: >> >>> Peter Cross wrote: >>> >>>> First my apologies for spamming the list. >>>> >>>> Ernest, I don't have your email address. Did you have a presentation >>>> (powerpoint, pdf, etc) from the last meeting that I can take a look >>>> at. I >>>> wasn't able to make the meeting. >>>> >>>> Once again my apologies. >>>> >>> hmmm confused why is this spam ... this ? may be but .... >>> >>> Yeah, I thought that was a little weird, too.....according to Wikipedia: >> >> "Spam has several definitions varying by source. >> >> * /Unsolicited bulk e-mail/ (UBE)???unsolicited e-mail, sent in large >> quantities. >> * /Unsolicited commercial e-mail/ (UCE)???this more restrictive >> >> definition is used by regulators whose mandate is to regulate >> commerce, such as the U.S. Federal Trade Commission >> ." >> >> >> I don't think that email was either unsolicited (you are a member of >> this list, after all) nor distributed in large quantities. Nor was it >> commercial in nature. I wouldn't sweat it or apologize for it. But, I >> guess, ultimately, that's up to the guys managing the list. ;) >> > > Well, I manage the list and I don't consider it spam. There was a single > destination and it was on-topic arising from the last meeting. > > -- Bruce > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- Cheers! Peter J. Cross San Antonio, TX "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions" -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51 Please consider the environment before printing this email From hc at lookcee.com Tue Mar 16 17:08:52 2010 From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee) Date: Tue Mar 16 17:08:54 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Visual probs and screen resolution Message-ID: <4BA00174.4040503@lookcee.com> 03/16/2010 Since the list is quiet right now I would like to ask for help with visual problems and screen resolution. To explain most of u will recognize Cheryl Holmes on the list. Well I have been trying to give Cheryl some help over past 2+yrs and sadly her eyes have severely deteriorated from 20/2500 to even worse. To give an example of how small things can be a problem for limited sight is many default settings of the desktop has the damn pointer so small that I cannot find it either I only have one bad eye, very dim bout like twilight in day near useless at night and the good one is like looking tru wavy glass. I worked out a step by step for her to change the screen settings so that the pointer stays the large red one and her desktop set to Hi B&W resolution. I am not sure what exactly to ask since it is important to get a step by step exact and as simple as possible because keep in mind that Cheryl has to read object by object she can no longer scan but has to focus separately. I just asked her if she wanted to try setting up text to voice ability and she thinks that would be great. I will spend the personal time with her online in getting her set up with this so if anybody out there with any experience wishes to help Cheryl fire away, I am starting from scratch. Maybe if her eyes are gonna totally fail then we can have her at least still able to communicate. In the meantime we can start improving her screen display and using voice to help her out. Just imagine for yourself having to wait for someone to visit and ask them to read for u and dictate your typing replies. She has an Acer 21" LCD She is gonna ask her sister next visit to get the exact mod # but it was set for 1600/11xx but we reduced this down to 1200xx range. The puter is P-IV with good mem and HD and She is running Ubuntu 8.04 fully updated. She can use the command line but because of the sight prob and often having to be in sudo/root she has to be really careful. However using me as a filter I think we can keep her out of trouble making changes. I run the same distro 8.04 so I can test it out first. I am gonna start in on getting her going on text to voice and VS so hope for some help guys. I dunno even where to start other than start reading on all that is available on Linux and trying them out. hh From hc at lookcee.com Tue Mar 16 17:20:18 2010 From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee) Date: Tue Mar 16 17:20:21 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Visual probs and screen resolution In-Reply-To: <4BA00174.4040503@lookcee.com> References: <4BA00174.4040503@lookcee.com> Message-ID: <4BA00422.8090304@lookcee.com> Herb Cee wrote: > 03/16/2010 Since the list is quiet right now I would like to ask for > help with visual problems and screen resolution. > > To explain most of u will recognize Cheryl Holmes on the list. Well I > have been trying to give Cheryl some help over past 2+yrs and sadly > her eyes have severely deteriorated from 20/2500 to even worse. To > give an example of how small things can be a problem for limited sight > is many default settings of the desktop has the damn pointer so small > that I cannot find it either I only have one bad eye, very dim bout > like twilight in day near useless at night and the good one is like > looking tru wavy glass. I worked out a step by step for her to change > the screen settings so that the pointer stays the large red one and > her desktop set to Hi B&W resolution. > > I am not sure what exactly to ask since it is important to get a step > by step exact and as simple as possible because keep in mind that > Cheryl has to read object by object she can no longer scan but has to > focus separately. I just asked her if she wanted to try setting up > text to voice ability and she thinks that would be great. > > I will spend the personal time with her online in getting her set up > with this so if anybody out there with any experience wishes to help > Cheryl fire away, I am starting from scratch. Maybe if her eyes are > gonna totally fail then we can have her at least still able to > communicate. In the meantime we can start improving her screen display > and using voice to help her out. Just imagine for yourself having to > wait for someone to visit and ask them to read for u and dictate your > typing replies. > > She has an Acer 21" LCD She is gonna ask her sister next visit to get > the exact mod # but it was set for 1600/11xx but we reduced this down > to 1200xx range. The puter is P-IV with good mem and HD and She is > running Ubuntu 8.04 fully updated. She can use the command line but > because of the sight prob and often having to be in sudo/root she has > to be really careful. However using me as a filter I think we can keep > her out of trouble making changes. I run the same distro 8.04 so I can > test it out first. > > I am gonna start in on getting her going on text to voice and VS so > hope for some help guys. I dunno even where to start other than start > reading on all that is available on Linux and trying them out. > hh > Correction Cheryl has no problem typing she is touch typist, just the reading prob when some days she cannot focus enough to make a word out full zoom. hh From temple_benjamin at hotmail.com Tue Mar 16 19:41:24 2010 From: temple_benjamin at hotmail.com (Benjamin Temple) Date: Tue Mar 16 19:41:28 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] DD-WRT presentation from the last meeting. In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003161506g123b8845y29ef770324762946@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com>, <4B9FEE98.6060709@lookcee.com> <4B9FFA69.3020800@gmail.com>, <4B9FFE91.1020200@gmail.com>, <7c63fb3d1003161506g123b8845y29ef770324762946@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I could also use a copy. If possible, send it to temple_{REMOVETHIS}benjamin@hotmail[dot]com Or, just send it to this email. Regards, Benjamin Temple TES ----------------------------------------- This e-mail contains privileged information intended only for the recipient of this e-mail. > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:06:55 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] DD-WRT presentation from the last meeting. > From: pjcrux@gmail.com > To: satlug@satlug.org > > lol... Now that that's taken care of.... > > Ernest whenever you can kind sir, I would appreciate it. > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > pcdls.ronin wrote: > > > >> Herb Cee wrote: > >> > >>> Peter Cross wrote: > >>> > >>>> First my apologies for spamming the list. > >>>> > >>>> Ernest, I don't have your email address. Did you have a presentation > >>>> (powerpoint, pdf, etc) from the last meeting that I can take a look > >>>> at. I > >>>> wasn't able to make the meeting. > >>>> > >>>> Once again my apologies. > >>>> > >>> hmmm confused why is this spam ... this ? may be but .... > >>> > >>> Yeah, I thought that was a little weird, too.....according to Wikipedia: > >> > >> "Spam has several definitions varying by source. > >> > >> * /Unsolicited bulk e-mail/ (UBE)???unsolicited e-mail, sent in large > >> quantities. > >> * /Unsolicited commercial e-mail/ (UCE)???this more restrictive > >> > >> definition is used by regulators whose mandate is to regulate > >> commerce, such as the U.S. Federal Trade Commission > >> ." > >> > >> > >> I don't think that email was either unsolicited (you are a member of > >> this list, after all) nor distributed in large quantities. Nor was it > >> commercial in nature. I wouldn't sweat it or apologize for it. But, I > >> guess, ultimately, that's up to the guys managing the list. ;) > >> > > > > Well, I manage the list and I don't consider it spam. There was a single > > destination and it was on-topic arising from the last meeting. > > > > -- Bruce > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > > > > -- > Cheers! > > Peter J. Cross > San Antonio, TX > > "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions" > -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51 > > Please consider the environment before printing this email > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 From edeleonjr at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 20:13:38 2010 From: edeleonjr at gmail.com (Ernest de Leon) Date: Tue Mar 16 20:13:48 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] DD-WRT presentation from the last meeting. In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately it was more of a demonstration than a presentation so there is no PDF or presentation slide deck. E On Mar 16, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Peter Cross wrote: > First my apologies for spamming the list. > > Ernest, I don't have your email address. Did you have a presentation > (powerpoint, pdf, etc) from the last meeting that I can take a look > at. I > wasn't able to make the meeting. > > Once again my apologies. > > -- > Cheers! > > Peter J. Cross > San Antonio, TX > > "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions" > -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51 > > Please consider the environment before printing this email > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From satlugacct at jchampion.com Wed Mar 17 09:09:02 2010 From: satlugacct at jchampion.com (John Champion) Date: Wed Mar 17 09:09:07 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] DD-WRT presentation from the last meeting. In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003161324u1a520ac9l4564b14e821321c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1cb556d11003170709p88c51a5hd5a55030ae77a8b4@mail.gmail.com> I used to use DD-WRT until I fried my 4th WIFI router cranking up output. It's very important that you do not crank this thing up too much or else you will be buying a new wifi router. But this gives you so much more control over your home network. I did not see the presentation but know this is a great tool. From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Wed Mar 17 18:46:35 2010 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (redpill) Date: Wed Mar 17 18:46:43 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Visual probs and screen resolution In-Reply-To: <4BA00422.8090304@lookcee.com> References: <4BA00174.4040503@lookcee.com> <4BA00422.8090304@lookcee.com> Message-ID: <1268869595.2694.56.camel@redpill-laptop> Herb, are you using Ubuntu? If so try installing a program called Compixconfig-settings-manager. this program controls the compiz settings for the Ubuntu desktop. Once installed open the program (it will be under System-->Preferences), most of the plugins for the visually impared are under the acessability section. all of the controls are hot-keyable. plugins include: magnifyer, show mouse, zoom desktop, and color filter. If you are just looking to make the mouse easier to see then try going to system-->preferences-->mouse there may be more settings there. Todd From hc at lookcee.com Wed Mar 17 21:05:45 2010 From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee) Date: Wed Mar 17 21:05:49 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Visual probs and screen resolution In-Reply-To: <1268869595.2694.56.camel@redpill-laptop> References: <4BA00174.4040503@lookcee.com> <4BA00422.8090304@lookcee.com> <1268869595.2694.56.camel@redpill-laptop> Message-ID: <4BA18A79.2090407@lookcee.com> redpill wrote: > Herb, are you using Ubuntu? If so try installing a program called > Compixconfig-settings-manager. this program controls the compiz > settings for the Ubuntu desktop. Once installed open the program (it > will be under System-->Preferences), most of the plugins for the > visually impared are under the acessability section. all of the > controls are hot-keyable. plugins include: magnifyer, show mouse, zoom > desktop, and color filter. If you are just looking to make the mouse > easier to see then try going to system-->preferences-->mouse there may > be more settings there. > > Todd Thanks Todd, I didn't have the Compizconfig-settings-manager installed. It is indeed a wide selection of tuning and I will check it out and assist her in installing and making any settings that will help her. Yes both myself and Cheryl are running the LTS Ubuntu Ver 8.04. Since the new LTS 10.04 release is emanate we are hoping some neat stuff will be included. To clear a point this is to help Cheryl and I will be a test platform and filter so that she stands a decent chance of successfully installing aids to help her continue to use the computer with her continuing deterioration of her sight. She wants to try using text to speech so that her mail and text docs can be read to her. The reason I am acting as a filter is to install and test everything first because if she gets broken it is hard to get out without good sight. I am currently checking out the text to speech available to U8.04, I am staying with Gnome first since that is what is running. I do see that KDE claims to have this included in the desktop install. If anyone is using any of these ... comments sure welcome. Thanks hh From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Thu Mar 18 00:24:47 2010 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tweeks) Date: Thu Mar 18 00:24:56 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] XCSSA Member Fredrik Helping With FIRST Robotics Competition in the AT&T Center This Weekend Message-ID: <201003180024.48167.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> FYI.. For those who have not made it over to XCSSA for some of the robotics demos.. you can see them compete in all their glory this weekend at the AT&T center. In Robert's words: -------- Just an FYI that the FTC Robotic Tournament will be held at the AT&T Center this weekend 9am to 6pm. We have 48 teams registered from high-schools all over San Antonio. http://www.accd.edu/nvc/programs/tier/events.asp http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/ftc/default.aspx?id=968 ^^^ Cheers, Tweeks From lgj at usenix.org Thu Mar 18 11:25:41 2010 From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel Garth Jones) Date: Thu Mar 18 11:25:43 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] HotCloud '10 Submission Deadline Approaching Message-ID: <950BD381-3B1F-4932-B597-91F832F4F27F@usenix.org> We're writing to remind you that submission deadline for the 2nd USENIX Workshop on Hot Topics in Cloud Computing (HotCloud '10) program committee is approaching. Please submit your work by Tuesday, March 23, 2010. http://www.usenix.org/hotcloud10/cfpb Cloud computing has attracted a great deal of attention both from the research community and from industry. The cloud computing paradigm has evolved over the years from a basic IT infrastructure (data centers) to platform as a service (PaaS), and then from software as a service (SaaS) to complete service enablement on a hosted infrastructure (IaaS). At the same time, virtualization has emerged as a key enabler for the cloud computing paradigm. Several challenges arise in the design, implementation, and deployment of virtualized clouds. HotCloud will provide a forum for academics as well as practitioners in the field to share their experience, leverage each other's perspectives, and identifynew/emerging "hot" trends in this area. Topics of interest include but are not limited to the following: * Platform as a service * Software as a service * Infrastructure as a service * Elasticity and availability in a cloud * Multi-tenancy * Storage cloud * Charging models and economics * Power-efficient ("green") computing for clouds * Virtual appliance management and composition * Monitoring, troubleshooting, and failure recovery * Cloud management and configuration * Programming models * Security and privacy in clouds * New applications for clouds * Mobile clouds * Cloud usage scenarios For more details on the submission process, please see the complete Call for Papers at: http://www.usenix.org/hotcloud10/cfpb We look forward to receiving your submissions! Erich Nahum, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Dongyan Xu, Purdue University HotCloud '10 Program Co-Chairs hotcloud10chairs@usenix.org --------------------------------- Call for Papers 2nd USENIX Workshop on Hot Topics in Cloud Computing (HotCloud '10) June 22, 2010 Boston, MA, USA http://www.usenix.org/hotcloud10/cfpb Submissions Deadline: March 23, 2010 --------------------------------- From art.hall at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 19 08:38:00 2010 From: art.hall at sbcglobal.net (Arthur Hall) Date: Fri Mar 19 08:38:02 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Swap Need/Offer Message-ID: <547202.25304.qm@web82304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Have two USB(f) to PS/2(m) converters.? Would like to trade for one or two PS/2(f) to USB(m) converters.? The PS/2 slots on an older?donated PC aren't working for one of our refugee families, but the USB slots are still active.? Other suggested solutions are welcome, but I think this would work.? The PC is running Ubuntu 9.04.? Thanks in advance. Art From lgj at usenix.org Fri Mar 19 10:19:49 2010 From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel Garth Jones) Date: Fri Mar 19 10:19:51 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] NetEcon "10 Call for Papers Now Available Message-ID: On behalf of the 2010 Workshop on the Economics of Networks, Systems, and Computation (NetEcon '10) organizing committee, we'd like to invite you to contribute papers covering the role of incentives in communication and computation of large-scale networked systems. Please submit all papers by June 4, 2010, 4:59 p.m. PDT (hard deadline). The emergence of the Internet as a global platform for computation and communication has sparked the development and deployment of many large-scale networked systems. Often these systems involve multiple stakeholders with divergent or even competing interests. Unmitigated selfish behavior in these systems can lead to high inefficiency or even complete collapse. Research interest in the application of economic and game-theoretic principles to the design and analysis of networked systems has grown in recent years. Topics of interest to NetEcon '10 include but are not restricted to: * Use of incentives and economic mechanisms in peer-to-peer systems, grids, spam prevention, security, Internet routing and peering, wireless networks, systems spanning multiple administrative domains, and other computational systems * Algorithmic mechanism design * Methods for engineering incentives and disincentives (e.g., reputation, trust, control, accountability, anonymity, etc.) * Mathematical modeling and analysis of strategic behavior (or the lack thereof) in existing, deployed systems * Empirical studies of strategic behavior, or the lack thereof, in existing, deployed systems * Critiques of existing models and solution concepts, as well as proposals of better models and solution concepts * Privacy, security, and anonymity in incentive-compatible computational systems Submissions are due Friday, June 4, 2010, 4:59 p.m. PDT (hard deadline). For more details on the submission process, please see the complete Call for Papers at: http://www.usenix.org/netecon10/cfpa/ NetEcon '10 will be co-located with the 9th USENIX Symposium on Operating Systems Design and Implementation (OSDI '10), which will take place October 4?6, 2010. We look forward to receiving your submissions! Mike Dahlin, University of Texas at Austin Milan Vojnovic, Microsoft Research NetEcon '10 Program Co-Chairs netecon10chairs@usenix.org From temple_benjamin at hotmail.com Fri Mar 19 19:38:52 2010 From: temple_benjamin at hotmail.com (Benjamin Temple) Date: Fri Mar 19 19:38:53 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] GRUB2 Configuration Question Message-ID: Hello, I know Windows is a bit of a curse word obn this list, but I have a question anyway. How do I configure GRUB2 from a LFS 6.6 system to boot Windows? (I do not have filesystem drivers for Windows installed, but I can dio that if necessary.) Regards, Benjamin Temple TES ----------------------------------------- This e-mail contains privileged information intended only for the recipient of this e-mail. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 20:27:07 2010 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Fri Mar 19 20:27:10 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] GRUB2 Configuration Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA4246B.9030500@gmail.com> Benjamin Temple wrote: > Hello, > > I know Windows is a bit of a curse word obn this list, but I have a > question anyway. How do I configure GRUB2 from a LFS 6.6 system to > boot Windows? (I do not have filesystem drivers for Windows > installed, but I can dio that if necessary.) I haven't tried it, but edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and add menuentry "Windows" { set root=(hd0,2) chainloader +1 } Assuming that Windows is on the 2nd partition. Remember that grub2 starts counting partitions from 1. -- Bruce From dondavis at reglue.org Tue Mar 23 12:30:58 2010 From: dondavis at reglue.org (dondavis@reglue.org) Date: Tue Mar 23 12:31:18 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] FOSS for AISD? IT director spot open. Message-ID: <5d97046c99cf78669ef46c0153fef1a4.squirrel@webmail.reglue.org> LUGs, FOSS advocates, et al. FYI, AISD is looking for a new IT director. If ever there was a time when your input is important to AISD's IT direction, now would be it. Contact the Trustees and AISD superintendent directly. Please make a short and direct message that the new IT director needs to be knowlegable and willing to try Open Source alternatives so that our schools can keep good teachers. The budget problems can be solved if AISD can think outside the box. Both written and emails will be good. Someone please pass this message on to the other Austin LUGs as well. I don't have access at the moment. Board of Trustees 1111 West 6th Street Austin, TX 78703 trustees@austinisd.org Tel: 512-414-1704 Fax: 512-414-1486 We also spoke to the AISD budget committee about Linux, using FOSS, and also the California Open Source Text Book program http://www.opensourcetext.org/. I also spoke about ways to fund AISD other than expensive bond sales, which incur a $82.5M debt service anually. I can't get any information from AISD on the breakdown of the debt. From pjcrux at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 13:21:19 2010 From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter Cross) Date: Tue Mar 23 13:21:22 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 Message-ID: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> OK guys I've googled the crap out of this. Is it so painfully easy I'm missing it but how do I update the bios of my MOBO without a 3.5 floppy drive. -- Cheers! Peter J. Cross San Antonio, TX "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions" -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51 Please consider the environment before printing this email From jeremymann at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 13:30:35 2010 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Tue Mar 23 13:30:37 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f1003231130s3fc0fbf8hb9a9b311cb83e2ff@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Peter Cross wrote: > OK guys I've googled the crap out of this. Is it so painfully easy I'm > missing it but how do I update the bios of my MOBO without a 3.5 floppy > drive. Peter, I know this is not what you want to hear, but most mobos can be flashed from within Windows. This is why I keep a Bart's PE CD close by in case I need Windows to flash DVD firmware or BIOSes. Your other option could be to use a USB thumb drive as your DOS bootable floppy (along with a copy of your bios and flash program). -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 From corpustexn at yahoo.com Tue Mar 23 13:49:32 2010 From: corpustexn at yahoo.com (Tim) Date: Tue Mar 23 13:49:38 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <733504.7192.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Peter Cross wrote: > From: Peter Cross > Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 1:21 PM > OK guys I've googled the crap out of > this. Is it so painfully easy I'm > missing it but how do I update the bios of my MOBO without > a 3.5 floppy > drive. > > -- > Cheers! > > Peter J. Cross > San Antonio, TX > You can use FreeDOS. If you don't have unetbootin download for windows or linux. You can download freedos from unetbootin. Have a usb drive formatted with fat. Fat 32 might work, I think it varies from drive to drive. Copy your bios files to root folder of usb drive. Of course boot from usb is required. My first experience with freedos was helping someone with an Acer Aspire One that wouldn't boot. It works! > From pjcrux at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 13:50:50 2010 From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter Cross) Date: Tue Mar 23 13:50:52 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <79ec289f1003231130s3fc0fbf8hb9a9b311cb83e2ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1003231130s3fc0fbf8hb9a9b311cb83e2ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c63fb3d1003231150i6224db8dq38d88b6f317376f6@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Jeremy google was my friend this time. Thanks for the heads up and friendly pointer on this I was not aware of Bart's. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jeremy Mann wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Peter Cross wrote: > > OK guys I've googled the crap out of this. Is it so painfully easy I'm > > missing it but how do I update the bios of my MOBO without a 3.5 floppy > > drive. > > Peter, I know this is not what you want to hear, but most mobos can be > flashed from within Windows. This is why I keep a Bart's PE CD close > by in case I need Windows to flash DVD firmware or BIOSes. Your other > option could be to use a USB thumb drive as your DOS bootable floppy > (along with a copy of your bios and flash program). > > > > -- > Jeremy Mann > jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu > > University of Texas Health Science Center > Bioinformatics Core Facility > http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu > Phone: (210) 567-2672 > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- Cheers! Peter J. Cross San Antonio, TX "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions" -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51 Please consider the environment before printing this email From jeremymann at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 13:57:16 2010 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Tue Mar 23 13:57:18 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003231150i6224db8dq38d88b6f317376f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1003231130s3fc0fbf8hb9a9b311cb83e2ff@mail.gmail.com> <7c63fb3d1003231150i6224db8dq38d88b6f317376f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f1003231157h33b74009tdbd1938439e1e5ff@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Peter Cross wrote: > Thanks Jeremy google was my friend this time. Thanks for the heads up and > friendly pointer on this I was not aware of Bart's. Barts has saved my you know what on several occasions. Also, in order to use SATA drives you will need to manually install the Intel AHCI driver. By default, Barts just builds with native IDE support and does not include SATA. You might as well load it up with USB and networking support, WinSCP, Putty, Firefox, and whatever else you want. This will turn into an ultimate Windows rescue disc. I use mine and System Rescue CD on a daily basis. -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 From jeremymann at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 13:58:00 2010 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Tue Mar 23 13:58:02 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <733504.7192.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <733504.7192.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f1003231158y6028cc5ar517aff0c227d64b6@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Tim wrote: > ?You can use FreeDOS. ?If you don't have unetbootin download for windows or linux. ?You can download freedos from unetbootin. ?Have a usb drive formatted with fat. ?Fat 32 might work, I think it varies from drive to drive. ?Copy your bios files to root folder of usb drive. Of course boot from usb is required. ? My first experience with freedos was helping ?someone with an Acer Aspire One that wouldn't boot. It works! >> Just to add on that, FreeDOS is included with the System Rescue CD. -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 From pjcrux at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 14:28:05 2010 From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter Cross) Date: Tue Mar 23 14:28:07 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <79ec289f1003231157h33b74009tdbd1938439e1e5ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1003231130s3fc0fbf8hb9a9b311cb83e2ff@mail.gmail.com> <7c63fb3d1003231150i6224db8dq38d88b6f317376f6@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1003231157h33b74009tdbd1938439e1e5ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c63fb3d1003231228p10b6301ep2d2c62780bf53444@mail.gmail.com> what is the best way to add these into the build in Barts executable? lol I had already started the iso image creation by the time you replied. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jeremy Mann wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Peter Cross wrote: > > Thanks Jeremy google was my friend this time. Thanks for the heads up and > > friendly pointer on this I was not aware of Bart's. > > Barts has saved my you know what on several occasions. Also, in order > to use SATA drives you will need to manually install the Intel AHCI > driver. By default, Barts just builds with native IDE support and does > not include SATA. You might as well load it up with USB and networking > support, WinSCP, Putty, Firefox, and whatever else you want. This will > turn into an ultimate Windows rescue disc. I use mine and System > Rescue CD on a daily basis. > > > > -- > Jeremy Mann > jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu > > University of Texas Health Science Center > Bioinformatics Core Facility > http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu > Phone: (210) 567-2672 > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- Cheers! Peter J. Cross San Antonio, TX "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions" -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51 Please consider the environment before printing this email From jeremymann at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 14:35:22 2010 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Tue Mar 23 14:35:24 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003231228p10b6301ep2d2c62780bf53444@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1003231130s3fc0fbf8hb9a9b311cb83e2ff@mail.gmail.com> <7c63fb3d1003231150i6224db8dq38d88b6f317376f6@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1003231157h33b74009tdbd1938439e1e5ff@mail.gmail.com> <7c63fb3d1003231228p10b6301ep2d2c62780bf53444@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f1003231235v2757c7aava25f985db885859f@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Peter Cross wrote: > what is the best way to add these into the build in Barts executable? lol I > had already started the iso image creation by the time you replied. There's an entry in the FAQ or Wiki section about adding device drivers. http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/help/english/drivers.htm and http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/drivers/ -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Tue Mar 23 16:09:00 2010 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (redpill) Date: Tue Mar 23 16:09:03 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> I know that the latter ASUS boards have an BIOS update utility inside the bios. also try this article it should get you on the right path http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/33 Todd On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 13:21 -0500, Peter Cross wrote: > OK guys I've googled the crap out of this. Is it so painfully easy I'm > missing it but how do I update the bios of my MOBO without a 3.5 floppy > drive. > > -- > Cheers! > > Peter J. Cross > San Antonio, TX > > "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions" > -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51 > > Please consider the environment before printing this email From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 16:16:47 2010 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Tue Mar 23 16:16:51 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> Message-ID: <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> redpill wrote: > I know that the latter ASUS boards have an BIOS update utility inside > the bios. also try this article it should get you on the right path > http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/33 I don't ever recall upgrading a BIOS. What would cause the need for that? Seriously. -- Bruce From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Tue Mar 23 17:39:01 2010 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (redpill) Date: Tue Mar 23 17:39:09 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1269383941.8390.50.camel@redpill-laptop> given that the BIOS is software the benefit in upgrading is the same as any other piece of software...to gain new features and fix old bugs. That said updating (or upgrading?) the BIOS does carry a significant risk, and should not be done trivially. Todd On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 16:16 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > redpill wrote: > > I know that the latter ASUS boards have an BIOS update utility inside > > the bios. also try this article it should get you on the right path > > http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/33 > > I don't ever recall upgrading a BIOS. What would cause the need for that? > > Seriously. > > -- Bruce From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 17:47:22 2010 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Tue Mar 23 17:47:25 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <1269383941.8390.50.camel@redpill-laptop> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> <1269383941.8390.50.camel@redpill-laptop> Message-ID: <4BA944FA.2030908@gmail.com> redpill wrote: > given that the BIOS is software the benefit in upgrading is the same as > any other piece of software...to gain new features and fix old bugs. > That said updating (or upgrading?) the BIOS does carry a significant > risk, and should not be done trivially. What bugs? What features? The only function of the BIOS is to load the OS. After that, it's not used. If it couldn't load the OS, then it wouldn't have shipped. -- Bruce P.S. Please don't top post. From hc at lookcee.com Tue Mar 23 17:47:48 2010 From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee) Date: Tue Mar 23 17:47:50 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BA94514.2030506@lookcee.com> Bruce Dubbs wrote: > redpill wrote: >> I know that the latter ASUS boards have an BIOS update utility inside >> the bios. also try this article it should get you on the right path >> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/33 > > I don't ever recall upgrading a BIOS. What would cause the need for > that? > > Seriously. > > -- Bruce I did so Bruce to change the bios memory allowing 2gig sticks to work where it was only accepting 1GB ... something to do with way it looks at more banks in the same slot. Is an ECS mobo. Expanded memory to 4gb from 2gb. I don't remember how I did it but I know it was not with a flop. almost sure I did it with bootable cd I DLed and burned. Since BIOS change occurs before the kernel is loaded I suspect the distro does not matter hh From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Tue Mar 23 18:37:05 2010 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (redpill) Date: Tue Mar 23 18:37:07 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <4BA944FA.2030908@gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> <1269383941.8390.50.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA944FA.2030908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1269387425.8390.74.camel@redpill-laptop> I had to upgrade the bios on my T60 so that I could install a 64bit cpu. Thats definately a new feature. And finally no software is bug free even Basic Input and Output Software. Todd On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 17:47 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > redpill wrote: > > given that the BIOS is software the benefit in upgrading is the same as > > any other piece of software...to gain new features and fix old bugs. > > That said updating (or upgrading?) the BIOS does carry a significant > > risk, and should not be done trivially. > > What bugs? What features? The only function of the BIOS is to load the > OS. After that, it's not used. If it couldn't load the OS, then it > wouldn't have shipped. > > -- Bruce > > P.S. Please don't top post. From hc at lookcee.com Tue Mar 23 19:04:52 2010 From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee) Date: Tue Mar 23 19:04:55 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <4BA944FA.2030908@gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> <1269383941.8390.50.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA944FA.2030908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BA95724.9070708@lookcee.com> Bruce Dubbs wrote: > redpill wrote: >> given that the BIOS is software the benefit in upgrading is the same as >> any other piece of software...to gain new features and fix old bugs. >> That said updating (or upgrading?) the BIOS does carry a significant >> risk, and should not be done trivially. > > What bugs? What features? The only function of the BIOS is to load > the OS. After that, it's not used. If it couldn't load the OS, then > it wouldn't have shipped. > > -- Bruce > > P.S. Please don't top post. Sorry Bruce was in a rush and forgot to whom I was speaking. Your statement is true for all the older hard flashed chips but for the past 10yrs two other programs are run from the BIOS named Setup and Post. I did my googling and upgrading on my ECS mobo over yr ago so don't remember the details but i had a dilemma in that two identical mobos with same model # one accepted the 2gb sticks and one did not. Both ran fine on the 1gb stick. I tracked it down to the setup prog I believe it was. However it was called a BIOS upgrade. hh From Channing.ML at channingc.com Tue Mar 23 20:08:23 2010 From: Channing.ML at channingc.com (Channing.ML@channingc.com) Date: Tue Mar 23 20:08:28 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <4BA944FA.2030908@gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> <1269383941.8390.50.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA944FA.2030908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BA96607.6020600@channingc.com> Bruce Dubbs wrote: > What bugs? What features? The only function of the BIOS is to load > the OS. After that, it's not used. If it couldn't load the OS, then > it wouldn't have shipped. I cannot answer for the OP's, but I think the BIOS of today may not be what you are thinking about when you say "The only function of the BIOS is to load the OS". A BIOS used in a very popular laptop has seen 17 revisions in 3 years. Here is an abbreviated list of what was addressed: 1. Resolves intermittent no video issue during POST. 1. Updated the Dell embedded diagnostics ROM image to build 4104. 2. Minor changes for ASF progress PETS, including adding Dock, video and System Setup PETS. 3. Allow ASF to force PXE boot even if the on-board NIC isn't set to "Enabled w/PXE" in System Setup. 4. Added support for new versions of Intel CPUs. 5. Added feature to briefly illuminate the system battery LED when AC power is inserted. 1. On N-Series Platforms, removed SLIC table and pointer to resolve OS bug with KMS activation. 2. Added Wi-Fi Catcher support for Dell 1395 wireless card 1. Added support for Intel Penryn processor. 2. Fixed intermittent POST hang with preboot fingerprint authentication. 3. Fixed POST hang caused by Dock battery presence 1. Added support for Intel new processor. 2. Added enhancement for thermal control. 1. Added support for TPM free SKU. 1. Improve compatibility with Dell Wireless 1390 & 1490 Dell WLAN. 2. Improve setup and HD password operation. 3. Fixed: System Hangs on Resume from S3 with Driver Verifier enabled. 1. Updated to latest Computrace OPROM. 2. TPM functionality enhancements. 1. Updated Intel Video BIOS. 2. Updated Nvidia Video BIOS. 3. Enhancement for thermal control. 1. Improved support for 4GB memory. 2. Improved PXE support. 1. Improved support for discharged Media Bay Battery. 2. Implemented new option to disable Wi-Fi when LAN IP is available. 3. Fixed an OS hang issue caused by XD Disable. 4. Fixed Wi-Fi sniffer function with 4GB memory and Dell wireless. 1. Fixed issue where external USB CD drive can not boot. 2. Fixed FireMV 2200 video card not working in PCI slot of docking station. 3. Fixed battery drain issue occurring after a long period running on AC. HTH From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 20:23:28 2010 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Tue Mar 23 20:23:35 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <4BA95724.9070708@lookcee.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> <1269383941.8390.50.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA944FA.2030908@gmail.com> <4BA95724.9070708@lookcee.com> Message-ID: <4BA96990.5050106@gmail.com> > Your > statement is true for all the older hard flashed chips but for the past > 10yrs two other programs are run from the BIOS named Setup and Post. I > did my googling and upgrading on my ECS mobo over yr ago so don't > remember the details but i had a dilemma in that two identical mobos > with same model # one accepted the 2gb sticks and one did not. Both > ran fine on the 1gb stick. I tracked it down to the setup prog I believe > it was. However it was called a BIOS upgrade. Interesting. My understanding is that Linux doesn't trust the BIOS and checks things like RAM for itself. I know it reinitializes all the USB hubs and devices. I suppose there could be HW capabilities that are on the MB, but not enabled with the shipped BIOS, but that seems odd to me. POST stands for Power On Self Test. The initialization of the HW, North Bridge, South Bridge, system buses, etc is part of the BIOS too. Of course there are other things that can be played with like memory timings or overclocking, but that always has a potential to damage your system. I just don't trust updating the BIOS. In my opinion the risk is not worth it and as you demonstrate, it is then only needed if you are updating HW that needs to be initialized before loading the OS. If it ever worked and you don't upgrade the HW to something unsupported on the original MB, I don't know of a reason to update the BIOS. -- Bruce From dkowis at shlrm.org Wed Mar 24 08:36:21 2010 From: dkowis at shlrm.org (David Kowis) Date: Wed Mar 24 08:45:53 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <1269378540.8390.47.camel@redpill-laptop> <4BA92FBF.2090106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BAA1555.9050505@shlrm.org> On 3/23/2010 4:16 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > redpill wrote: >> I know that the latter ASUS boards have an BIOS update utility inside >> the bios. also try this article it should get you on the right path >> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/33 > > I don't ever recall upgrading a BIOS. What would cause the need for that? > For one: updating broken ACPI tables. (I think it's ACPI tables.) My thinkpad needed a bios update to enable the tp_SMAPI stuff to actually work, due to a bug. Now I can control how low the battery gets before I turn on charging, and how far it'll charge up to. Also I have access to the HDAPS accelerometer and my harddrive will park itself when the laptop is moved. Unless something is broken, however, it's not generally necessary to update the BIOS. David From youcanlinux at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 04:22:19 2010 From: youcanlinux at gmail.com (Daniel Villarreal) Date: Thu Mar 25 04:22:24 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: More details on your motherboard, please? On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Peter Cross wrote: > OK guys I've googled the crap out of this. Is it so painfully easy I'm > missing it but how do I update the bios of my MOBO without a 3.5 floppy > drive. > From youcanlinux at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 04:32:39 2010 From: youcanlinux at gmail.com (Daniel Villarreal) Date: Thu Mar 25 04:32:41 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] updating the bios in Fedora 12 In-Reply-To: <79ec289f1003231157h33b74009tdbd1938439e1e5ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63fb3d1003231121i47aaf0es510013d12a7bb053@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1003231130s3fc0fbf8hb9a9b311cb83e2ff@mail.gmail.com> <7c63fb3d1003231150i6224db8dq38d88b6f317376f6@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f1003231157h33b74009tdbd1938439e1e5ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On my Intel motherboard, I have the option of using AHCI for optimal performance, as well as the ability to hot-swap my SATA drives (which saves me from having to buy external hard drive enclosures). I don't have to use the AHCI setting, though. from my motherboard manual ... "Configure SATA as?" IDE is default RAID: enables RAID which may require you to install the RAID Driver during OS installation AHCI: allows you to take advantage of Advanced Host Controller Interface features such as Native command Queuing, Hot plug, etc., without the option to use RAID. Requires a hard drive that supports AHCI. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Jeremy Mann wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Peter Cross wrote: > > Thanks Jeremy google was my friend this time. Thanks for the heads up and > > friendly pointer on this I was not aware of Bart's. > > Barts has saved my you know what on several occasions. Also, in order > to use SATA drives you will need to manually install the Intel AHCI > driver. By default, Barts just builds with native IDE support and does > not include SATA. You might as well load it up with USB and networking > support, WinSCP, Putty, Firefox, and whatever else you want. This will > turn into an ultimate Windows rescue disc. I use mine and System > Rescue CD on a daily basis. > > From danielr2010 at live.com Thu Mar 25 12:40:03 2010 From: danielr2010 at live.com (Daniel Riggins) Date: Thu Mar 25 12:40:10 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] FreeBSD wireless realtek 8187B Message-ID: Howdy gents, I am an Arch linux user that just installed FreeBSD. So far everything is running pretty smoothly with XMonad however I am having issues with connecting via wireless. My School has an unsecured radius server that redirects a web page to a login where I am passed through to the network after obtaining their cert. I have a realtek 8187B nic on a Gateway MX8739 laptop. I'm using the urtw driver for the nic and have to run 'ifconfig wlan create usbdev wlan0 up' to create my wireless device. I can use it to scan for networks so it does that much but when I try to dhclient the school's access point I'm given a message: 'no link......giving up' or dhcpoffer on 255.255.255 then stops. I try to use uzbl to access the login page and claims I am not connected. Any insight? V/R, Daniel Rigginsdanielr.riggins@gmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ From lgj at usenix.org Thu Mar 25 17:12:31 2010 From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel Garth Jones) Date: Thu Mar 25 17:12:34 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] USENIX NSDI '10 Registration Discount Deadline Approaching Message-ID: <21C013CF-B82E-4266-8D57-811AEBAADA82@usenix.org> We are writing to remind you that the Early Bird Registration Deadline for the 7th USENIX Symposium on Networked Systems Design and Implementation (NSDI '10) is just over two weeks away. Please register by Monday, April 5, 2010 to save! http://www.usenix.org/nsdi10/progb NSDI '10, taking place April 28-30, 2010, in San Jose, CA, will focus on the design and implementation of large-scale networks and distributed systems. Our goal is to bring together researchers from across the systems and networking communities to foster cross-disciplinary approaches and to address shared research challenges. This year's program includes 29 technical papers carefully selected out of 175 submissions. The high-quality papers represent a diverse range of research areas including cloud services, Web browsers and servers, datacenter and wireless networks, malware, and more. In addition, NSDI '10 will feature a poster session where attendees can discuss emerging ideas in networked systems design. Please join us in San Jose for the latest innovative networked systems research. We look forward to seeing you there. Sincerely, Miguel Castro, Microsoft Research Cambridge Alex C. Snoeren, University of California, San Diego nsdi10chairs@usenix.org P.S. Don't miss these workshops, which will be co-located with NSDI '10 and will take place on Tuesday, April 27, 2010: - 3rd USENIX Workshop on Large-Scale Exploits and Emergent Threats (LEET '10) http://www.usenix.org/events/leet10/ - 2010 Internet Network Management Workshop/Workshop on Research on Enterprise Networking (INM/WREN '10) http://www.usenix.org/events/inmwren10/ - 9th International Workshop on Peer-to-Peer Systems (IPTPS '10) http://www.usenix.org/events/iptps10/ From satlug at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 26 12:26:53 2010 From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright) Date: Fri Mar 26 12:26:57 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Computer Show is Tomorrow, Saturday, March 27th Message-ID: <82opq5lorvu05rhfd1uernnj6hqgf8flp3@4ax.com> Just a reminder the Computer Show and Super-Sale is this Saturday at the Live Oak Civic Center. See www.pcShowS.com for a discount coupon, and then come by the SATLUG booth to talk about Linux and computing freedom. Wear your SATLUG shirt if you have one, as the vendors know us from the previous shows and treat us well. See you there! --Don -- I just realized the USB stick I casually loaned somebody has more capacity than all the disk drives at my university (and cost less than one textbook.) From bkfuth at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 22:41:57 2010 From: bkfuth at gmail.com (steve kolars) Date: Fri Mar 26 22:42:00 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Computer Show is Tomorrow, Saturday, March 27th In-Reply-To: <82opq5lorvu05rhfd1uernnj6hqgf8flp3@4ax.com> References: <82opq5lorvu05rhfd1uernnj6hqgf8flp3@4ax.com> Message-ID: <9b6ae23d1003262041h2ec717bap3f3fa309a690f16d@mail.gmail.com> Don, I will be there to help you in the morning. Steve On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Don Wright wrote: > Just a reminder the Computer Show and Super-Sale is this Saturday at the > Live Oak Civic Center. See www.pcShowS.com for a discount coupon, and > then come by the SATLUG booth to talk about Linux and computing freedom. > > Wear your SATLUG shirt if you have one, as the vendors know us from the > previous shows and treat us well. > > See you there! --Don > > -- > I just realized the USB stick I casually loaned somebody has more capacity > than all the disk drives at my university (and cost less than one > textbook.) > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to manage/unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Sun Mar 28 11:29:46 2010 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (redpill) Date: Sun Mar 28 11:29:50 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] firebox x5 edge Message-ID: <1269793786.19996.16.camel@redpill-laptop> I just recently acquired and old firebox x5 edge router and was wondering if anyone had any experience with these routers. I am trying to install a different OS on this router as I am not a fan of the watchguard interface. I have researched dd-wrt and can only find support for the FireboxII. Does anyone have any experience with installing M0n0wall or PFsense on enbeded devices such as this one? here are the specs of the box in question: Watchguard Firebox X Edge X5 Security Appliance Specifications Part # WG40005 Manufacturer WatchGuard Manufacturer Part #WG40005 Processor MIPS 266 MHz RAM Installed 64 MB Flash Memory Installed 16 MB Ports Qty 7 Data Transfer Rate 100 Mbps Interfaces 2 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX - RJ-45 ( WAN ) 1 x management - RS-232 - 9 pin D-Sub (DB-9) 7 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX - RJ-45 thanks for any help guys. Todd From siffland at nerdshack.com Sun Mar 28 17:20:17 2010 From: siffland at nerdshack.com (Sean) Date: Sun Mar 28 17:20:29 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Free Stuff Message-ID: <56E4426AC3324944BA22B5147FCF6004@nox> I have the following to get rid of. I would prefer someone take everything because i really really need to get rid of it (Spring Cleaning). I live in Converse so i can meet in the forum or around the Walzem area. AGP Video SIS AGP ATI Rage 2C AGP Nvidia GeForceFX5200 128MB RAM PCI SoundBlaster Live 24-bit PCI Audio Card (Says HRTF Audio Com) PCI Intel Modem (537EPG) PCI ATA133 Controller Card 512MB Stick PC133 256MB Stick PC133 2.4GHZ Celeron Processor, pulled from a Dell 2400 (swapped for a P4). Like 10 IDE Cables, mostly 80 pin a few 40 pin 1 computer with: 500 MHZ P2 Slot 1 512 MB PC100 ECC RAM Nvidia Geforce2 AGP Card 3 D-Link Nic's CD-Rom The computer has no hard drive in it, it can boot to the CD-ROM, but not the one in it (I had a DVD in it I used to boot from but had to pull it before posting this (it cost to much to give away for free) and the Lite-on cd burner in it is not bootable, on any computer). I was using the machine for a router for awhile and before that a music server. I cannot remember what the Motherboard is, but it is at the latest firmware, from like 2000 or so. Sean From edeleonjr at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 22:16:43 2010 From: edeleonjr at gmail.com (Ernest De Leon) Date: Sun Mar 28 22:16:46 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Flipping a Jeep Message-ID: I know the list won't allow pics in email, so I'll just post a link for those who care to go check it out. I'm sure Steve (Kolars) will get a kick out of this. Went wheeling this weekend and managed to flip my Jeep. It was an easy flip with a winch, then drove it on out. Minimal body damage since it rested on the tires and roll cage mostly. This is what I bought a Jeep for! http://s749.photobucket.com/albums/xx138/TRX4_YJ/Flippin%20Out/ From satlug at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 31 00:36:23 2010 From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright) Date: Wed Mar 31 00:36:25 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Jury says Novell wins, SCO loses Message-ID: The verdict in the jury trial regarding SCO, Novell, and the Unix copyrights is in. Novell never sold the Unix copyrights to SCO. Brief statement from the winners: http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?p=2153 Current news and links to full coverage: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100330152829622 -- Some people call 9-1-1 Some people are 9-1-1 Some people are the reason for 9-1-1 From wgenz at swisd.net Wed Mar 31 09:26:46 2010 From: wgenz at swisd.net (William T. Genz) Date: Wed Mar 31 09:26:44 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] iFolder 3.8 install on SLES 11.2 Message-ID: Hello all. I'm trying to install iFolder 3.8 on Suse Linux Enterprise Server 11.2. I'm getting failed dependencies when I try to update Mono with rpm. Here's my command: rpm -Uvh http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/archive/2.4.3/download/openSUSE_11.1/i586/apache2-mod_mono-2.4.3-22.61.i586.rpm http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/archive/2.4.3/download/openSUSE_11.1/i586/mono-core-2.4.3-26.7.i586.rpm http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/archive/2.4.3/download/openSUSE_11.1/i586/mono-data-2.4.3-26.7.i586.rpm http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/archive/2.4.3/download/openSUSE_11.1/i586/mono-data-sqlite-2.4.3-26.7.i586.rpm http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/archive/2.4.3/download/openSUSE_11.1/i586/mono-web-2.4.3-26.7.i586.rpm http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/archive/2.4.3/download/openSUSE_11.1/i586/mono-winforms-2.4.3-26.7.i586.rpm http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/archive/2.4.3/download/openSUSE_11.1/noarch/xsp-2.4.3-22.27.noarch.rpm It downloads everything and checks dependencies, but the last part says: error: Failed dependencies: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7) is needed by mono-core-2.4.3-26.7.i586 I can't seem to find an rpm package for glibc_2.7. Any ideas? Thanks for your help. Will Genz Computer Tech SWISD Technology wgenz@swisd.net From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Wed Mar 31 09:38:45 2010 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (redpill) Date: Wed Mar 31 09:38:49 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] iFolder 3.8 install on SLES 11.2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1270046325.2084.0.camel@redpill-laptop> On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 09:26 -0500, William T. Genz wrote: > GLIBC_2.7 the first result from google when searching for GLIBC_2.7 http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/3/srodzaj/1/search/libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7) google is your friend Todd From justin.burdette at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 10:41:08 2010 From: justin.burdette at gmail.com (Justin Burdette) Date: Wed Mar 31 10:41:15 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Dropbox Message-ID: Just found this on Reddit, and apparently they've raised the cap on bonus space from referrals to give you a total of 10GB. Anyone have any experience with it? So far I've seen nothing but good things from other groups I'm in. Referral link (starts the referral bonuses, 250MB per) if anyone wants: https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTU3NTg2NDk5 Justin From art.hall at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 31 14:40:22 2010 From: art.hall at sbcglobal.net (Arthur Hall) Date: Wed Mar 31 14:40:25 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Keyboard Problem Message-ID: <190201.34369.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm trying to restore a Pentium III PC for reugee use, but can't get a keyboard to work.? Have tried two different ones in both the PS/2 and USB ports and get the same symptoms with each.? In the PS/2 port, the three lights (Num Lock, Caps Lock, and Scroll Lock) light up sequentially and repeat as long as you leave the board plugged in, but no keys are active.? In the USB port, the Num Lock light illuminates and can be turned on and off, but no other keys are active.? Without an active keyboard I can't get into the BIOS or operating system to make any setting changes.? It has the distinct feel of a Catch 22 at this point.? The OS is Ubuntu 9.04.? Any ideas?? Thanks in advance. Art Hall From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Wed Mar 31 14:52:04 2010 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (redpill) Date: Wed Mar 31 14:52:07 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Keyboard Problem In-Reply-To: <190201.34369.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <190201.34369.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1270065124.2197.0.camel@redpill-laptop> try manually resetting the CMOS for that board. Todd On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 12:40 -0700, Arthur Hall wrote: > I'm trying to restore a Pentium III PC for reugee use, but can't get a keyboard to work. Have tried two different ones in both the PS/2 and USB ports and get the same symptoms with each. In the PS/2 port, the three lights (Num Lock, Caps Lock, and Scroll Lock) light up sequentially and repeat as long as you leave the board plugged in, but no keys are active. In the USB port, the Num Lock light illuminates and can be turned on and off, but no other keys are active. Without an active keyboard I can't get into the BIOS or operating system to make any setting changes. It has the distinct feel of a Catch 22 at this point. The OS is Ubuntu 9.04. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. > Art Hall From wgenz at swisd.net Wed Mar 31 15:56:02 2010 From: wgenz at swisd.net (William T. Genz) Date: Wed Mar 31 15:55:56 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] iFolder 3.8 install on SLES 11.2 Message-ID: Todd, Sorry, I should have elaborated a little... Yes, I did the google search (it is my friend), and I returned the same results you did. However, pbone.net's files did not work for me. Everything related to what I need wasn't there when I tried to download it. Thanks Will From art.hall at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 31 23:00:00 2010 From: art.hall at sbcglobal.net (Arthur Hall) Date: Wed Mar 31 23:00:05 2010 Subject: [SATLUG] Keyboard Problem In-Reply-To: <1270065124.2197.0.camel@redpill-laptop> Message-ID: <998965.31093.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 3/31/10, redpill wrote: From: redpill Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Keyboard Problem To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 2:52 PM try manually resetting the CMOS for that board. Todd Todd, Thanks for the suggestion.? Tried resetting it two ways (moving the jumper and removing the CMOS battery), but the keyboard still acts the same.? After some playing, I verified that the motherboard's PS/2 mouseport is working OK, something I hadn't noticed before.? Still can't put the right kind of life into the keyboard, though.? One other symptom: When I switched hard drives to another with Ubuntu 9.04 aboard, the desktop came up just fine.? Two different mice worked just fine also, but neither keyboard worked.... ? I lied.? The second keyboard is now working fine and in the PS/2 slot, too.? I'll have to guess that the refugee family, which has children playing with this machine, somehow threw the OS into disarray.? I'll format the original hard drive and reload 9.04 into it and see what happens.? Other suggestions are always welcome.? Thanks again. Art