From art.hall at sbcglobal.net  Fri May  1 09:26:17 2009
From: art.hall at sbcglobal.net (Arthur Hall)
Date: Fri May  1 09:26:19 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SATA Question
Message-ID: <678220.16677.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Time to increase my knowledge of hardware a bit.? A SATA hard drive I inherited had no power supply cord and I don't have a spare for it.? The drive?has a connection for a SATA power plug (15 connectors) and one for an IDE connection (four connectors).? My question is this: if I use the IDE connection, will it?power it up appropriately or will it blow it up?? Thanks for the learned responses.
Art Hall
From jeremymann at gmail.com  Fri May  1 09:55:58 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Fri May  1 09:56:00 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SATA Question
In-Reply-To: <678220.16677.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <678220.16677.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905010755s3faccc55w2e201f9d92d6b684@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Arthur Hall <art.hall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Time to increase my knowledge of hardware a bit.? A SATA hard drive I inherited had no power supply cord and I don't have a spare for it.? The drive?has a connection for a SATA power plug (15 connectors) and one for an IDE connection (four connectors).? My question is this: if I use the IDE connection, will it?power it up appropriately or will it blow it up?? Thanks for the learned responses.

Art, no you won't hurt anything by using the 4 pin power connector.



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From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Fri May  1 09:56:54 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Fri May  1 09:57:48 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SATA Question
In-Reply-To: <678220.16677.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <678220.16677.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1241189814.16144.1.camel@toddwbucy-laptop>

what you need is a ide power to sata power connector.  I have a few
spares if you need one Art.  And no it will not blow up your drive.

Todd

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 07:26 -0700, Arthur Hall wrote:
> Time to increase my knowledge of hardware a bit.  A SATA hard drive I inherited had no power supply cord and I don't have a spare for it.  The drive has a connection for a SATA power plug (15 connectors) and one for an IDE connection (four connectors).  My question is this: if I use the IDE connection, will it power it up appropriately or will it blow it up?  Thanks for the learned responses.
> Art Hall

From justin.burdette at gmail.com  Fri May  1 10:07:06 2009
From: justin.burdette at gmail.com (Justin Burdette)
Date: Fri May  1 10:07:11 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SATA Question
In-Reply-To: <678220.16677.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <678220.16677.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a66fec530905010807m5f515213pd25f2a294f289fbd@mail.gmail.com>

I've never tried it, but I do have a few spare SATA power adapters
here. Contact me off list, I'll gladly throw a couple your way.
Passing out now (graveyard shift FTL) but I'll be free after 7.

Justin

On 5/1/09, Arthur Hall <art.hall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Time to increase my knowledge of hardware a bit.? A SATA hard drive I
> inherited had no power supply cord and I don't have a spare for it.? The
> drive?has a connection for a SATA power plug (15 connectors) and one for an
> IDE connection (four connectors).? My question is this: if I use the IDE
> connection, will it?power it up appropriately or will it blow it up?? Thanks
> for the learned responses.
> Art Hall
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From art.hall at sbcglobal.net  Fri May  1 10:21:04 2009
From: art.hall at sbcglobal.net (Arthur Hall)
Date: Fri May  1 10:21:07 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SATA Question Update
Message-ID: <377984.17728.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the quick responses folks.??And thanks for the offers of connectors. ?Looks like I don't need them after all.? I plugged in an IDE power connector and "Voila!" the Ubuntu 9.04 desktop came up promptly.? No explosion noted.
Art Hall
From lgj at usenix.org  Fri May  1 11:39:05 2009
From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel Garth Jones)
Date: Fri May  1 11:39:08 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] USENIX WebApps '10 Call for Papers Now Available
Message-ID: <AC2167C3-8434-4165-972D-058AB680D004@usenix.org>

On behalf of the Program Committee, I would like to invite you to submit
your work to the USENIX Conference on Web Application Development
(WebApps '10).

WebApps '10 is a new technical conference designed to bring together
experts in all aspects of developing and deploying Web applications.

Suggested topics related to Web application development include but  
are not limited to:

* Computing substrates and deployment technologies ("cloud computing")
* Frameworks for developing Web applications
* Client-side toolkits, libraries, and plug-ins
* Storage systems
* Security issues for Web applications
* Management techniques for large-scale Web applications
* Languages for Web applications
* Scalability issues and techniques
* Techniques for creating highly interactive Web applications
* Software as a service
* Applications that illustrate interesting new features or  
implementation techniques
* Performance measurements of Web applications
* Real-time data delivery over the Web
* Web services

Paper submissions are due by January 11, 2010.

The Call for Papers, with submission guidelines, can be found at
http://www.usenix.org/webapps10/cfpa/

The USENIX Conference on Web Application Development (WebApps '10) will
take place June 20?25, 2010, in Boston, MA. The technical sessions will
take place on June 23?25.

I look forward to receiving your submissions!

Sincerely,

John Ousterhout, Stanford University
WebApps '10 Program Chair
webapps10chair@usenix.org

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Call for Papers:
USENIX Conference on Web Application Development (WebApps '10)
June 20?25, 2010
Boston, MA
http://www.usenix.org/webapps10/cfpa
Paper submissions deadline: January 11, 2010
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From dmyhand at suddenlink.net  Fri May  1 16:11:29 2009
From: dmyhand at suddenlink.net (Dennis Myhand)
Date: Fri May  1 16:11:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SATA Question
In-Reply-To: <678220.16677.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <678220.16677.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49FB6581.7030703@suddenlink.net>

Arthur Hall wrote:
> Time to increase my knowledge of hardware a bit.  A SATA hard drive I inherited had no power supply cord and I don't have a spare for it.  The drive has a connection for a SATA power plug (15 connectors) and one for an IDE connection (four connectors).  My question is this: if I use the IDE connection, will it power it up appropriately or will it blow it up?  Thanks for the learned responses.
> Art Hall
> 

BTW Art, it is a 4 pin Molex connector and not an IDE connector.
From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com  Fri May  1 19:44:03 2009
From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes)
Date: Fri May  1 19:44:05 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] generating a crash report
Message-ID: <7e4994a70905011744j7af333ecqdcb781bf88b6e58a@mail.gmail.com>

would anyone onlist be so kind as to give me step by step instructions on
how to create a crash report?  I run Hardy and Firefox 3.0.10

Firefox has been continually crashing on me for a month now but worsened in
the last week.  I reported it but they want a crash report which I have no
idea how to generate.  They sent me a website but I don't understand their
instructions either not being a Linux guru.

Thank you very much..cheryl
From satlug at net153.net  Fri May  1 20:22:09 2009
From: satlug at net153.net (Samuel Leon)
Date: Fri May  1 20:22:11 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] generating a crash report
In-Reply-To: <7e4994a70905011744j7af333ecqdcb781bf88b6e58a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e4994a70905011744j7af333ecqdcb781bf88b6e58a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FBA041.10907@net153.net>

Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> would anyone onlist be so kind as to give me step by step instructions on
> how to create a crash report?  I run Hardy and Firefox 3.0.10
> 
> Firefox has been continually crashing on me for a month now but worsened in
> the last week.  I reported it but they want a crash report which I have no
> idea how to generate.  They sent me a website but I don't understand their
> instructions either not being a Linux guru.
> 
> Thank you very much..cheryl


What was the website for the instructions?

Sam
From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Fri May  1 21:17:16 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Fri May  1 21:17:18 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] generating a crash report
In-Reply-To: <49FBA041.10907@net153.net>
Message-ID: <231955.33840.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


have you checked $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/Crash Reports ?


--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Samuel Leon <satlug@net153.net> wrote:

> From: Samuel Leon <satlug@net153.net>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] generating a crash report
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 8:22 PM
> Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> > would anyone onlist be so kind as to give me step by
> step instructions on
> > how to create a crash report?  I run Hardy and Firefox
> 3.0.10
> > 
> > Firefox has been continually crashing on me for a
> month now but worsened in
> > the last week.  I reported it but they want a crash
> report which I have no
> > idea how to generate.  They sent me a website but I
> don't understand their
> > instructions either not being a Linux guru.
> > 
> > Thank you very much..cheryl
> 
> 
> What was the website for the instructions?
> 
> Sam
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From hharadon at gmail.com  Sat May  2 01:28:40 2009
From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon)
Date: Sat May  2 01:28:41 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Open Source Fest
In-Reply-To: <9b6ae23d0904171019i680ff9a0qfabd675117fae729@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9b6ae23d0904171019i680ff9a0qfabd675117fae729@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e5fa90240905012328q53a5c77bm50b6e9e56555981c@mail.gmail.com>

Steve, June 2-6 is OK by me.

Howard
-- 
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San Antonio, TX  USA



On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, steve kolars <bkfuth@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately I need to reschedule the Open Source Fest. ?Facilities has
> decided they need to have all of the air conditioning systems off-line for
> maintenance during our scheduled time. ?We tried to get the maintenance date
> changed, but... ?So, I am suggesting we reschedule it to June 2 - 6. ?Let me
> know what you think about the new dates.
>
> Steve
>
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From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu  Sat May  2 08:39:46 2009
From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler)
Date: Sat May  2 08:39:54 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Solar Fest
Message-ID: <200905021339.n42Ddkbj015200@biochem.uthscsa.edu>

Anyone going to the solar fest today in Maverick Park?

http://www.solarsanantonio.org/solarfest.html

-b.
From pjcrux at gmail.com  Sat May  2 09:34:35 2009
From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter J. Cross)
Date: Sat May  2 09:34:37 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Open Source Fest
In-Reply-To: <e5fa90240905012328q53a5c77bm50b6e9e56555981c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9b6ae23d0904171019i680ff9a0qfabd675117fae729@mail.gmail.com>
	<e5fa90240905012328q53a5c77bm50b6e9e56555981c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5F6DB3C846D947418172A4818812A7BB@ksufa16b588508>

I had wanted to attend but unfortunately I will be out of the country during
that time. 

Cheers!
 
Peter J. Cross
San Antonio, TX
 
"Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions" 
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-----Original Message-----
From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf
Of Howard Haradon
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 1:29 AM
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Open Source Fest

Steve, June 2-6 is OK by me.

Howard
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San Antonio, TX  USA



On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, steve kolars <bkfuth@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately I need to reschedule the Open Source Fest. ?Facilities has
> decided they need to have all of the air conditioning systems off-line for
> maintenance during our scheduled time. ?We tried to get the maintenance
date
> changed, but... ?So, I am suggesting we reschedule it to June 2 - 6. ?Let
me
> know what you think about the new dates.
>
> Steve
>
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From gtmo321 at earthlink.net  Sat May  2 13:07:35 2009
From: gtmo321 at earthlink.net (MK Davis)
Date: Sat May  2 13:07:38 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] generating a crash report
In-Reply-To: <231955.33840.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <231955.33840.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49FC8BE7.7020208@earthlink.net>

Google is your friend:
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+crashes


Alex Bartonek wrote:
> have you checked $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/Crash Reports ?
>
>
> --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Samuel Leon <satlug@net153.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Samuel Leon <satlug@net153.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] generating a crash report
>> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
>> Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 8:22 PM
>> Cheryl Holmes wrote:
>>     
>>> would anyone onlist be so kind as to give me step by
>>>       
>> step instructions on
>>     
>>> how to create a crash report?  I run Hardy and Firefox
>>>       
>> 3.0.10
>>     
>>> Firefox has been continually crashing on me for a
>>>       
>> month now but worsened in
>>     
>>> the last week.  I reported it but they want a crash
>>>       
>> report which I have no
>>     
>>> idea how to generate.  They sent me a website but I
>>>       
>> don't understand their
>>     
>>> instructions either not being a Linux guru.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much..cheryl
>>>       
>> What was the website for the instructions?
>>
>> Sam
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>> SATLUG@satlug.org
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>> unsubscribe
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>>     
>
>
>       
>   
From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Sat May  2 13:19:59 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Sat May  2 13:20:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] generating a crash report
In-Reply-To: <49FC8BE7.7020208@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <983444.23901.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


have you typed about:crashes to see if it works?


--- On Sat, 5/2/09, MK Davis <gtmo321@earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: MK Davis <gtmo321@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] generating a crash report
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 1:07 PM
> Google is your friend:
> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+crashes



      
From jdchoate at gmail.com  Sat May  2 18:36:23 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Sat May  2 18:34:19 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Plasma executable for KDE 4.2 vs. Really Slick Screensavers
Message-ID: <200905021836.24015.jdchoate@gmail.com>

A word of advice for KDE 4 users.
Do not compile and install the the screensaver rss_glx from source... if you do install rss_glx, do it from a package.
Unfortunately, rss_glx has a screensaver named plasma. So if you compile and install rss_glx from source, the rss screensavers executables get installed to /usr/bin instead of simply to /usr/lib/xscreensaver. The next time you login the plasma screensaver runs in its own little window, rather than the plasma-desktop running :)

Fortunately for me I wanted to update to KDE 4.2.70, which I am about to do. So all will get fixed (possibly). Since this is an svn release, I have my fingers crossed.
From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 12:56:28 2009
From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes)
Date: Sun May  3 12:56:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] crash report, Sam
Message-ID: <7e4994a70905031056j50f4b1a5x6555b59ac7872390@mail.gmail.com>

No, I haven't tried that command...but, thank you I will!

The site they sent me is
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs


My sister is going to print out the instructions otherwise and mail them to
me since I need to repair my printer...

Thanks again Sam...cheryl
From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 13:03:38 2009
From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes)
Date: Sun May  3 13:03:41 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] crash report
Message-ID: <7e4994a70905031103t72d526acs705ea55c56d4c334@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you guys!

I did try $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/Crash Reports and about crash...nothing
comes up///

I just typed in "about crash" is that what you meant?

My machine is an x386

thanks again cheryl
From geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu  Sun May  3 16:56:30 2009
From: geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu (Geoff)
Date: Sun May  3 16:56:32 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] crash report
In-Reply-To: <7e4994a70905031103t72d526acs705ea55c56d4c334@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e4994a70905031103t72d526acs705ea55c56d4c334@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FE130E.7070003@w5omr.shacknet.nu>

Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> Thank you guys!
>
> I did try $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/Crash Reports and about crash...nothing
> comes up///
>
> I just typed in "about crash" is that what you meant?
>
> My machine is an x386
>
> thanks again cheryl
>   

There's a colon between 'about' and 'crash', cheryl.

about:crash

(ps: in Mozilla Thunderbird, you can press Control and the numeric Plus
sign to make print big enough to see.)

-geoff.

From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Sun May  3 21:58:37 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Sun May  3 21:58:40 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] openSuSE 11.1 & MSI Wind Netbook
Message-ID: <648573.77588.qm@web55605.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


I bought one of those MSI Wind netbooks from Best Buy about a month ago.  I figured I'd leave it as-is with Windows but then realized I didnt use it as much.   So I did an NFS install of openSuSE 11.1 and it works great.  I havent tested out the special "function" keys just yet but so far all is well.

The netbook itself has a 10" display, 160gig sata hd, 1 gig ram (for now) and wifi.  It can be overclocked from the factory up to 24% I think (its in the BIOS..I forget what I have mine set to).   Pretty much out of the box everything worked except wifi.  There's a page on the web showing what tar.gz file to download/decompress/compile to get it working.

-Alex



      
From mariocompeanc at yahoo.com  Mon May  4 07:37:49 2009
From: mariocompeanc at yahoo.com (Mario Compean)
Date: Mon May  4 07:37:54 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Help from Network Folks on the List
Message-ID: <797760.4042.qm@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


	
	
I'm writing a proposal for a grant
application for a non-profit that calls for a computer lab with ten
workstations and two desktops for staff. The lab would be used by
students who want to learn English.




This calls for setting up the network,
including the server, installing English-learning software in lab
workstations, and installing MS Office on the two staff desktops. In
a addition to the applications the server will also handle a
database. Appropriate security features, monthly maintenance, and
remote access also need to be considered. I have no idea of the cost
involved for setting this up nor of an appropriate server. I will
appreciate any help on this.



Thanks in advance. 




      
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Mon May  4 16:33:37 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Mon May  4 16:34:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] openSuSE 11.1 & MSI Wind Netbook
In-Reply-To: <648573.77588.qm@web55605.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <648573.77588.qm@web55605.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1241472817.23935.1.camel@toddwbucy-laptop>

It would be nice to see how the new netbook version of Ubuntu 9.04
stacks up on this platform.
<http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr>

Todd

On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 19:58 -0700, Alex Bartonek wrote:
> I bought one of those MSI Wind netbooks from Best Buy about a month ago.  I figured I'd leave it as-is with Windows but then realized I didnt use it as much.   So I did an NFS install of openSuSE 11.1 and it works great.  I havent tested out the special "function" keys just yet but so far all is well.
> 
> The netbook itself has a 10" display, 160gig sata hd, 1 gig ram (for now) and wifi.  It can be overclocked from the factory up to 24% I think (its in the BIOS..I forget what I have mine set to).   Pretty much out of the box everything worked except wifi.  There's a page on the web showing what tar.gz file to download/decompress/compile to get it working.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> 
>       

From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Mon May  4 17:29:25 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Mon May  4 17:29:26 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] need a computer
Message-ID: <891892.81031.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


folks, 

I badly need to learn VMware unfortunately I am those who learn by doing and not precisely reading.

I'd like to know what should aim for and how much should I expect to pay. I'd like to host 2 or 3 virtual machines (linux).


thnx.
esv.


      
From jeremymann at gmail.com  Mon May  4 17:50:26 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Mon May  4 17:50:28 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] need a computer
In-Reply-To: <891892.81031.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <891892.81031.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905041550p648078fm50bf8ba25c4be486@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Enrique Sanchez Vela
<esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> folks,
>
> I badly need to learn VMware unfortunately I am those who learn by doing and not precisely reading.
>
> I'd like to know what should aim for and how much should I expect to pay. I'd like to host 2 or 3 virtual machines (linux).

Enrique, will you be running all of them at once? If not, you can get
away with 1 GB of RAM and a modest P4 or higher.


-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Mon May  4 18:01:09 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Mon May  4 18:01:12 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] need a computer
Message-ID: <815243.2494.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>




--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Jeremy Mann <jeremymann@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jeremy Mann <jeremymann@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] need a computer
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 6:50 PM
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:29 PM,
> Enrique Sanchez Vela
> <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > folks,
> >
> > I badly need to learn VMware unfortunately I am those
> who learn by doing and not precisely reading.
> >
> > I'd like to know what should aim for and how much
> should I expect to pay. I'd like to host 2 or 3 virtual
> machines (linux).
> 
> Enrique, will you be running all of them at once? If not,
> you can get
> away with 1 GB of RAM and a modest P4 or higher.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jeremy Mann
> jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

thank you.
esv.


      
From edeleonjr at gmail.com  Mon May  4 19:04:36 2009
From: edeleonjr at gmail.com (Ernest De Leon)
Date: Mon May  4 19:04:39 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Time Warner Business Class
Message-ID: <ff67f9f70905041704s5039c7a9ob86de259a18e83df@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone on list have TWC Business Class service? If so, what is the
pricing like?

Thanks,
Ernest
From horned0wl93 at gmail.com  Mon May  4 19:19:07 2009
From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed)
Date: Mon May  4 19:19:02 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Time Warner Business Class
In-Reply-To: <ff67f9f70905041704s5039c7a9ob86de259a18e83df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff67f9f70905041704s5039c7a9ob86de259a18e83df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FF85FB.6090608@gmail.com>

I don't have it, but I priced it last month, for their basic service at 
$119/mo....

Cheers;
Ed
==============

Ernest De Leon wrote:
> Does anyone on list have TWC Business Class service? If so, what is the
> pricing like?
>
> Thanks,
> Ernest
>   
From herrold at owlriver.com  Mon May  4 14:48:27 2009
From: herrold at owlriver.com (R P Herrold)
Date: Mon May  4 19:39:50 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Built my own DTV antenna
In-Reply-To: <79ec289f0904261321r55a6aae8y7ab63eee8c6ada44@mail.gmail.com>
References: <79ec289f0904260822y7f862e13na61e1b0571b3e1fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<49F4BAE8.1040900@shlrm.org>
	<79ec289f0904261321r55a6aae8y7ab63eee8c6ada44@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0905041540350.11841@arj.bjyevire.pbz>

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Jeremy Mann wrote:

> Luckily I had all the parts. About the only thing you'll have to buy
> is a 75 ohm balun. Here's a pic. Its pretty ghetto but works
> surprisingly well:
>
> http://mann.uthscsa.edu/images/dtv-antenna.jpg

looks fine to me -- a bowtie, and so directional; one active 
element rather than the two shown here:
 	http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/digital-tv-antenna.html

"The Channel Master 4228 UHF antenna is a long-range 
wide-band (Channels 14-69), 8-way bowtie dipole design 
directional antenna with a maximum gain of 15.8dB and a beam 
width of 15 degrees. "
 	down the page a bit.

No chicken wire backing (to eliminate to ground backside 
signal), and so not so ghetto as it could be ;)

The BalUn (transition from a Balanced transmission line to an 
Unbalanced circuit) makes for ease in terminating RG-59 ish 
coax to halves of the antenna -- was there any theoretical 
attempt at impedence matching as well?

Similarly the element arms -- were they cut to be half 
(quarter) waves at some intentional frequency center?

-- Russ herrold
 	wb8sky
From jfw5cpa at gmail.com  Mon May  4 21:45:27 2009
From: jfw5cpa at gmail.com (Jim Wells)
Date: Mon May  4 21:45:29 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Built my own DTV antenna
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0905041540350.11841@arj.bjyevire.pbz>
References: <79ec289f0904260822y7f862e13na61e1b0571b3e1fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<49F4BAE8.1040900@shlrm.org>
	<79ec289f0904261321r55a6aae8y7ab63eee8c6ada44@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LRH.2.00.0905041540350.11841@arj.bjyevire.pbz>
Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0905041945r77f218aeha74cab06fc6cd095@mail.gmail.com>

I like this.  MAYBE I will then be able to get more channels near SAC.

Jim W5CPA

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, R P Herrold <herrold@owlriver.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Jeremy Mann wrote:
>
>  Luckily I had all the parts. About the only thing you'll have to buy
>> is a 75 ohm balun. Here's a pic. Its pretty ghetto but works
>> surprisingly well:
>>
>> http://mann.uthscsa.edu/images/dtv-antenna.jpg
>>
>
> looks fine to me -- a bowtie, and so directional; one active element rather
> than the two shown here:
>        http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/digital-tv-antenna.html
>
> "The Channel Master 4228 UHF antenna is a long-range wide-band (Channels
> 14-69), 8-way bowtie dipole design directional antenna with a maximum gain
> of 15.8dB and a beam width of 15 degrees. "
>        down the page a bit.
>
> No chicken wire backing (to eliminate to ground backside signal), and so
> not so ghetto as it could be ;)
>
> The BalUn (transition from a Balanced transmission line to an Unbalanced
> circuit) makes for ease in terminating RG-59 ish coax to halves of the
> antenna -- was there any theoretical attempt at impedence matching as well?
>
> Similarly the element arms -- were they cut to be half (quarter) waves at
> some intentional frequency center?
>
> -- Russ herrold
>        wb8sky
>
> --
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From edeleonjr at gmail.com  Mon May  4 22:03:00 2009
From: edeleonjr at gmail.com (Ernest De Leon)
Date: Mon May  4 22:03:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Time Warner Business Class
In-Reply-To: <49FF85FB.6090608@gmail.com>
References: <ff67f9f70905041704s5039c7a9ob86de259a18e83df@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FF85FB.6090608@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff67f9f70905042003r573c3c76gb7b0374432b80bc@mail.gmail.com>

do you remember what comes with it? that isn't too bad if it comes with a
decent amount of extras

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:19 PM, ed <horned0wl93@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't have it, but I priced it last month, for their basic service at
> $119/mo....
>
> Cheers;
> Ed
> ==============
>
>
> Ernest De Leon wrote:
>
>> Does anyone on list have TWC Business Class service? If so, what is the
>> pricing like?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ernest
>>
>>
> --
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From j at jvpappas.net  Tue May  5 04:03:04 2009
From: j at jvpappas.net (John Pappas)
Date: Tue May  5 04:03:09 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Time Warner Business Class
In-Reply-To: <ff67f9f70905042003r573c3c76gb7b0374432b80bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff67f9f70905041704s5039c7a9ob86de259a18e83df@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FF85FB.6090608@gmail.com>
	<ff67f9f70905042003r573c3c76gb7b0374432b80bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c0ec4450905050203m732880c9iba41f8a7b0e5a2f6@mail.gmail.com>

IIRC, It adds an SLA ( Uses battery backup and other measures to guarantee
uptime, I think they SLA up to 2 nines) as well as a priority queue to the
help desk (thus supporting the SLA).  Bandwidth (up) can get higher (3Mb or
5Mb) but costs much more (think 250+).  Again, this is the last time I
checked, so that may have changed.  I imagine that they would also not
cap/throttle business class.

HTH,
jp

2009/5/4 Ernest De Leon <edeleonjr@gmail.com>

> do you remember what comes with it? that isn't too bad if it comes with a
> decent amount of extras
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:19 PM, ed <horned0wl93@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't have it, but I priced it last month, for their basic service at
> > $119/mo....
> >
> > Cheers;
> > Ed
> > ==============
> >
> >
> > Ernest De Leon wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone on list have TWC Business Class service? If so, what is the
> >> pricing like?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ernest
> >>
> >>
> > --
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> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
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From jeremymann at gmail.com  Tue May  5 06:59:11 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Tue May  5 06:59:13 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Built my own DTV antenna
In-Reply-To: <8c9fbbeb0905041945r77f218aeha74cab06fc6cd095@mail.gmail.com>
References: <79ec289f0904260822y7f862e13na61e1b0571b3e1fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<49F4BAE8.1040900@shlrm.org>
	<79ec289f0904261321r55a6aae8y7ab63eee8c6ada44@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LRH.2.00.0905041540350.11841@arj.bjyevire.pbz>
	<8c9fbbeb0905041945r77f218aeha74cab06fc6cd095@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905050459r77a8e41gc766c6b9dd08ebb3@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jim Wells <jfw5cpa@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like this. ?MAYBE I will then be able to get more channels near SAC.

Jim, I'm WAY on the NW side of town and even with powered rabbit ears,
I never got all channels. With this antenna, I get local channels
perfectly clear.



-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From leif at paisd.net  Tue May  5 08:26:59 2009
From: leif at paisd.net (Leif Johnson)
Date: Tue May  5 08:27:02 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Open Resolver
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905050821490.9782@dorado.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>


Can someone help me close my open DNS resolver?
I have a ticket from OTS that I need to close.

/etc/named.conf: --snip--

logging { category lame-servers { null; }; };
// generated by named-bootconf.pl
acl "trusted" {
206.76.144.3;
206.77.62.130;
165.95.18.60;
206.76.144.46;
206.76.144.4;
10.250.1.0;
10.250.2.0;
10.250.3.0;

};

options {
         directory "named";
         /*
          * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
          * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
          * directive below.  Previous versions of BIND always asked
          * questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged
          * port by default.
          */
         //query-source address * port 53;

version "not available";
allow-recursion { trusted; };
allow-notify { trusted; };
allow-transfer { trusted; };

};


  ---snip--

-- 
Sincerely,
Leif Johnson
(361) 749-1200 x. 316
http://blog.paisd.net
From geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu  Tue May  5 14:10:56 2009
From: geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu (Geoff)
Date: Tue May  5 14:10:59 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Built my own DTV antenna
In-Reply-To: <79ec289f0905050459r77a8e41gc766c6b9dd08ebb3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <79ec289f0904260822y7f862e13na61e1b0571b3e1fb@mail.gmail.com>	<49F4BAE8.1040900@shlrm.org>	<79ec289f0904261321r55a6aae8y7ab63eee8c6ada44@mail.gmail.com>	<alpine.LRH.2.00.0905041540350.11841@arj.bjyevire.pbz>	<8c9fbbeb0905041945r77f218aeha74cab06fc6cd095@mail.gmail.com>
	<79ec289f0905050459r77a8e41gc766c6b9dd08ebb3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A008F40.3020901@w5omr.shacknet.nu>

Jeremy Mann wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jim Wells <jfw5cpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> I like this.  MAYBE I will then be able to get more channels near SAC.
>>     
>
> Jim, I'm WAY on the NW side of town and even with powered rabbit ears,
> I never got all channels. With this antenna, I get local channels
> perfectly clear.
>
>
>
>   

You might even get more, if you had the thing outside and on the roof
above obstructions.

UHF signals do prefer a 'clear path'.  Propagation on UHF is "Line of
Sight".  This would be why so little power is needed to hear satellite
signals, from space.

Where you are, on the far NW side of town, you are high enough in
elevation, that if your antenna was outside and up on your chimney, you
might not only be able to see all of the San Antonio signals, but you
might even see some of the other local signals.  Austin, Kerrville,
Fredericksburg... on a good day, perhaps even San Angelo.

>From the Balun (converter from 75ohm coax, like CATV or RG-59 to 300 ohm
open wire line [aka ribbon-cable]) some sheilded low-loss CATV coax to
your converter box would be great.  A pre-amplifier/receive amplifier
would ensure crystal clear digital pictures and would help bring in
other broadcast signals from around the immediate region.

From justin.burdette at gmail.com  Tue May  5 19:52:29 2009
From: justin.burdette at gmail.com (Justin Burdette)
Date: Tue May  5 19:52:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: HP Power supply
Message-ID: <a66fec530905051752u1dc67da3t4f80ae76850ec382@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone happen to have one of the smaller HP desktop power
supplies laying around? I'm tinkering with one and I think I popped
it...I get the green light on the back until I push power, then the
case fan spins up for about 1 second and it does nothing.

Contact me off-list.

Thanks!

Justin
From dmyhand at suddenlink.net  Tue May  5 19:57:03 2009
From: dmyhand at suddenlink.net (Dennis Myhand)
Date: Tue May  5 19:57:06 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: HP Power supply
In-Reply-To: <a66fec530905051752u1dc67da3t4f80ae76850ec382@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a66fec530905051752u1dc67da3t4f80ae76850ec382@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A00E05F.2050704@suddenlink.net>

You can check it with a dmm.

Justin Burdette wrote:
> Does anyone happen to have one of the smaller HP desktop power
> supplies laying around? I'm tinkering with one and I think I popped
> it...I get the green light on the back until I push power, then the
> case fan spins up for about 1 second and it does nothing.
> 
> Contact me off-list.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Justin
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2098 - Release Date: 05/05/09 08:05:00
> 

From rsuberg at satx.rr.com  Tue May  5 21:18:52 2009
From: rsuberg at satx.rr.com (Richard Suberg)
Date: Tue May  5 20:19:06 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: HP Power supply
In-Reply-To: <4A00E05F.2050704@suddenlink.net>
References: <a66fec530905051752u1dc67da3t4f80ae76850ec382@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A00E05F.2050704@suddenlink.net>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANCP0atn2iZLngkpSr38bh7CgAAAEAAAAHTQ7c1WZXlFuTdFhoVIzgQBAAAAAA==@satx.rr.com>

Another thing to check is I have seen the same thing coming from mobo or pci
cards.

Richard
http://www.kevinspitcrew.com

-----Original Message-----
From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf
Of Dennis Myhand
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:57 PM
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: HP Power supply

You can check it with a dmm.

Justin Burdette wrote:
> Does anyone happen to have one of the smaller HP desktop power
> supplies laying around? I'm tinkering with one and I think I popped
> it...I get the green light on the back until I push power, then the
> case fan spins up for about 1 second and it does nothing.
> 
> Contact me off-list.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Justin
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2098 - Release Date: 05/05/09
08:05:00
> 

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No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
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17:51:00

From JimParkhurst at austin.rr.com  Tue May  5 20:24:17 2009
From: JimParkhurst at austin.rr.com (Jim Parkhurst)
Date: Tue May  5 20:24:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Built my own DTV antenna
In-Reply-To: <4A008F40.3020901@w5omr.shacknet.nu>
References: <79ec289f0904260822y7f862e13na61e1b0571b3e1fb@mail.gmail.com>	<49F4BAE8.1040900@shlrm.org>	<79ec289f0904261321r55a6aae8y7ab63eee8c6ada44@mail.gmail.com>	<alpine.LRH.2.00.0905041540350.11841@arj.bjyevire.pbz>	<8c9fbbeb0905041945r77f218aeha74cab06fc6cd095@mail.gmail.com>	<79ec289f0905050459r77a8e41gc766c6b9dd08ebb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A008F40.3020901@w5omr.shacknet.nu>
Message-ID: <4A00E6C1.3010209@austin.rr.com>

A (short) while back I think in Slashdot there was some showings of a 
Fractal antenna. Apparently improved the signal reception and with two 
at 90-degree separation would provide 360-degree pickup coverage.

Geoff wrote:
> Jeremy Mann wrote:
>   
>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jim Wells <jfw5cpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> I like this.  MAYBE I will then be able to get more channels near SAC.
>>>     
>>>       
>> Jim, I'm WAY on the NW side of town and even with powered rabbit ears,
>> I never got all channels. With this antenna, I get local channels
>> perfectly clear.
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> You might even get more, if you had the thing outside and on the roof
> above obstructions.
>
> UHF signals do prefer a 'clear path'.  Propagation on UHF is "Line of
> Sight".  This would be why so little power is needed to hear satellite
> signals, from space.
>
> Where you are, on the far NW side of town, you are high enough in
> elevation, that if your antenna was outside and up on your chimney, you
> might not only be able to see all of the San Antonio signals, but you
> might even see some of the other local signals.  Austin, Kerrville,
> Fredericksburg... on a good day, perhaps even San Angelo.
>
> >From the Balun (converter from 75ohm coax, like CATV or RG-59 to 300 ohm
> open wire line [aka ribbon-cable]) some sheilded low-loss CATV coax to
> your converter box would be great.  A pre-amplifier/receive amplifier
> would ensure crystal clear digital pictures and would help bring in
> other broadcast signals from around the immediate region.
>
>   
From scs at worldlinkisp.com  Tue May  5 20:28:02 2009
From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com)
Date: Tue May  5 20:28:07 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: HP Power supply
Message-ID: <badfddea0fe14869a8b5d503e76a3df7.scs@worldlinkisp.com>


>
 >Does anyone happen to have one of the smaller HP desktop power
>supplies laying around? I'm tinkering with one and I think I popped
>it...I get the green light on the back until I push power, then the
>case fan spins up for about 1 second and it does nothing.
----------------------------------------------------------
You appear to have one of two problems.
1.  Power supply circuitry drawing too much current and shutting down. .
2.  Something wrong on your motherboard drawing too much current, 
     causing the power supply to shut down.

You can temporarily use another ATX (I assume) power supply
mounted outside your case and connected to your motherboard.


If it blows then the mother board is the problem, if not then your
HP power supply is faulty.

hth   Lou


From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Tue May  5 21:12:40 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Tue May  5 21:13:34 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
Message-ID: <1241575960.13662.45.camel@toddwbucy-laptop>

I finally figured got around to hacking an external antenna to my
laptop.  Since my wifi card is a run of the mill Intel ABG I was able to
find a cable <http://www.data-alliance.net/servlet/Detail?no=74> to
connect to my spare antenna <http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=416>.

This might seem trivial to some of the more technically proficient on
this list but its the first important step in my quest for a more cost
effective solution to Internet access. 
I live relatively close to downtown on the east side and with this new
antenna I can get a very week signal from the City's wifi AP at the
court house.  (for those of you who don't venture downtown San Antonio
has had free public wifi in about a 2 block vicinity of the courthouse
and city hall for the last couple of years).  My idea is this do a bit
of wardriving with a gps and I can then map the exact location of the AP
so that I can then aim a (as of yet to be built) bi-quad wifi antenna
<http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/15/how-to-build-a-wifi-biquad-dish-antenna/> and pick up a strong signal.  Eventually, I would like to extend the municipal wifi network to my immediate neighborhood by building a wifi access point (or is wifi-bridge the proper term?).

Before I get to deep into this process however I thought I would be wise
to seek ya'lls advice on this topic.  In particular, technical, legal,
and security considerations.  

Thanks
Todd

From cdv7 at sbcglobal.net  Tue May  5 21:42:10 2009
From: cdv7 at sbcglobal.net (cdv7@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue May  5 21:42:16 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] New user asks modem & dial up questions.
Message-ID: <4A00F902.9050400@sbcglobal.net>

Greetings,
I had hoped to purchase the TRENDnet TFM-560X a modem from newegg.com 
but it is now listed as a Deactivated Item. (See 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825134002) I was 
told the company is undecided if the deactivation will be permanent or 
temporary. Newegg lists U.S. Robotics USR3453C as a similar product.
(See http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825104004).
Do you agree? If not, please indicate your choice.
Also. please recommend a quick, reliable and very low-cost Dial up ISP 
for Ubuntu 7.10 ?Gutsy Gibbon?. Sadly, I need to economize and am now in 
the process of switching from DSL to Dial-up.

Please respond.
A new Linux user.

P.S.
Mr. Suberg, Mr. Pappas and Geoff,
Thank you for your suggestions.
It took a while, but switching from Suse to Ubuntu Linux solved most of 
my problems- such as the ability to print.
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Tue May  5 21:56:56 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Tue May  5 21:57:50 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
In-Reply-To: <1241575960.13662.45.camel@toddwbucy-laptop>
References: <1241575960.13662.45.camel@toddwbucy-laptop>
Message-ID: <1241578616.5362.6.camel@toddwbucy-laptop>

Just for the info here is the kismet output for the SAFreeWiFi AP I was
talking about.

Name    : SAFreeWiFi 
SSID    : SAFreeWiFi
Server  : localhost:2501
BSSID   : 00:21:A1:F8:D4:02
Carrier : IEEE 802.11b
Manuf   : Unknown
Max Rate: 18.0
BSS Time: 58a3883178
Max Seen: 1000 kbps
First   : Tue May  5 22:33:37 2009
Latest  : Tue May  5 22:38:33 2009
Clients : 0
Type    : Access Point (infrastructure)
Info    : nwb_lam1522\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000
Channel : 11
Privacy : No
Encrypt : None
Beacon  : 26112 (26.738688 sec)
Packets : 34
Data    : 0
LLC     : 34
Crypt   : 0
Weak    : 0
Dupe IV : 0
Data    : 0B
Signal  :
Power   : -90 (bbest -87)
Noise   : -90 (best -90)

From satlug at sbcglobal.net  Tue May  5 22:25:21 2009
From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright)
Date: Tue May  5 22:25:24 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] New user asks modem & dial up questions.
In-Reply-To: <4A00F902.9050400@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A00F902.9050400@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <29v105p22i7k4j8kv1i2ve8qash2cvg5cf@4ax.com>

On Tue, 05 May 2009 21:42:10 -0500, cdv7@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> Newegg lists U.S. Robotics USR3453C as a similar product.
>(See http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825104004).
>Do you agree? If not, please indicate your choice.

Heck no. $243.99? That's WAY overpriced. If you have to change to analog
dial-up you can go to the Goodwill computer store and see if they have
any 56K external modems. Any that have serial (9 or 25 pin) connections
should work. USB connections may or may not work with Linux, but it
would be worth trying. Come to the computer show (www.pcshows.com) at
the end of the month if you can't find one elsewhere.

Just be sure you don't try to connect to a printer port - that can cause
severe damage or worse.  --Don

-- 
A computer is a hole in your desk you pour money into.
From horned0wl93 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 22:28:09 2009
From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed)
Date: Tue May  5 22:28:04 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] New user asks modem & dial up questions.
In-Reply-To: <4A00F902.9050400@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A00F902.9050400@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4A0103C9.6050308@gmail.com>

Hi!

I'd opt for the US Robotics in the first place.  Their "Courrier" modems 
were the mainstay of BBS operators many years ago.  And, as for a 
low-cost, good support dial-up ISP, I'd look at STIC -- South Texas 
Internet Connections.  They're mostly broadband now, but still have 
dial-up capability.

Cheers;
Ed


cdv7@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Greetings,
> I had hoped to purchase the TRENDnet TFM-560X a modem from newegg.com 
> but it is now listed as a Deactivated Item. (See 
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825134002) I was 
> told the company is undecided if the deactivation will be permanent or 
> temporary. Newegg lists U.S. Robotics USR3453C as a similar product.
> (See http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825104004).
> Do you agree? If not, please indicate your choice.
> Also. please recommend a quick, reliable and very low-cost Dial up ISP 
> for Ubuntu 7.10 ?Gutsy Gibbon?. Sadly, I need to economize and am now 
> in the process of switching from DSL to Dial-up.
>
> Please respond.
> A new Linux user.
>
> P.S.
> Mr. Suberg, Mr. Pappas and Geoff,
> Thank you for your suggestions.
> It took a while, but switching from Suse to Ubuntu Linux solved most 
> of my problems- such as the ability to print.

From hharadon at gmail.com  Wed May  6 07:06:24 2009
From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon)
Date: Wed May  6 07:06:26 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] New user asks modem & dial up questions.
In-Reply-To: <4A00F902.9050400@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A00F902.9050400@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <e5fa90240905060506m2d6e0717h8108ddb2fecefc46@mail.gmail.com>

New User, I have a couple of old Motorola
external modems that you can try. If one of them
works, you can pay me $4.  Please contact me off
the list at my address above.

Howard
-- 
Howard Haradon
San Antonio, TX  USA



On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:42 PM,  <cdv7@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Greetings,
> I had hoped to purchase the TRENDnet TFM-560X a modem from newegg.com but it
> is now listed as a Deactivated Item. (See
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825134002) I was told
> the company is undecided if the deactivation will be permanent or temporary.
> Newegg lists U.S. Robotics USR3453C as a similar product.
> (See http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825104004).
> Do you agree? If not, please indicate your choice.
> Also. please recommend a quick, reliable and very low-cost Dial up ISP for
> Ubuntu 7.10 ?Gutsy Gibbon?. Sadly, I need to economize and am now in the
> process of switching from DSL to Dial-up.
>
> Please respond.
> A new Linux user.
>
> P.S.
> Mr. Suberg, Mr. Pappas and Geoff,
> Thank you for your suggestions.
> It took a while, but switching from Suse to Ubuntu Linux solved most of my
> problems- such as the ability to print.
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
>
From art.hall at sbcglobal.net  Wed May  6 08:03:33 2009
From: art.hall at sbcglobal.net (Arthur Hall)
Date: Wed May  6 08:03:35 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] New user asks modem & dial up questions.
In-Reply-To: <4A00F902.9050400@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <708901.45140.qm@web82303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 5/5/09, cdv7@sbcglobal.net <cdv7@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: cdv7@sbcglobal.net <cdv7@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [SATLUG] New user asks modem & dial up questions.
To: satlug@satlug.org
Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 9:42 PM

Greetings,
I had hoped to purchase the TRENDnet TFM-560X a modem from newegg.com but it is
now listed as a Deactivated Item. (See
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825134002) I was told the
company is undecided if the deactivation will be permanent or temporary. Newegg
lists U.S. Robotics USR3453C as a similar product.
(See http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825104004).
Do you agree? If not, please indicate your choice.
Also. please recommend a quick, reliable and very low-cost Dial up ISP for
Ubuntu 7.10 ?Gutsy Gibbon?. Sadly, I need to economize and am now in the
process of switching from DSL to Dial-up.

Please respond.
A new Linux user.

P.S.
Mr. Suberg, Mr. Pappas and Geoff,
Thank you for your suggestions.
It took a while, but switching from Suse to Ubuntu Linux solved most of my
problems- such as the ability to print.
-- _______________________________________________
SATLUG mailing list
SATLUG@satlug.org
http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
Welcome aboard New User,Before you lose DSL capability, you may want to try downloading the latest version - Ubuntu 9.04.? It loads faster and has more capabilities.? Instructions for downloading the ISO file and converting it to a live/install CD are on the Ubuntu website and are easy to follow.  Having tried the 7.04 and 8.04 versions, I find the 9.04 edition easier to use and even more to my liking.Art Hall
From satlug at net153.net  Wed May  6 08:05:17 2009
From: satlug at net153.net (Samuel Leon)
Date: Wed May  6 08:05:20 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Open Resolver
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905050821490.9782@dorado.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905050821490.9782@dorado.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>
Message-ID: <4A018B0D.9090409@net153.net>

Leif Johnson wrote:
> 
> Can someone help me close my open DNS resolver?
> I have a ticket from OTS that I need to close.
> 
> /etc/named.conf: --snip--
> 
> logging { category lame-servers { null; }; };
> // generated by named-bootconf.pl
> acl "trusted" {
> 206.76.144.3;
> 206.77.62.130;
> 165.95.18.60;
> 206.76.144.46;
> 206.76.144.4;
> 10.250.1.0;
> 10.250.2.0;
> 10.250.3.0;
> 
> };
> 
> options {
>         directory "named";
>         /*
>          * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
>          * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
>          * directive below.  Previous versions of BIND always asked
>          * questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged
>          * port by default.
>          */
>         //query-source address * port 53;
> 
> version "not available";
> allow-recursion { trusted; };
> allow-notify { trusted; };
> allow-transfer { trusted; };
> 
> };
> 
> 
>  ---snip--
> 


To my knowledge, you need to set "allow-query".  So something like:

  version "not available";
  allow-recursion { trusted; };
  allow-query { trusted; };
  allow-notify { trusted; };
  allow-transfer { trusted; };


But that will disallow any ip other than what is listed in "trusted" 
from getting queries.  If you have any zones that you are hosting and 
you want the outside world to be able to resolve them then you need to 
allow queries from anywhere on them.  So to do that you need to add 
allow-query any to each zone:


     zone "mywebserver.net" {
         type master;
         file "/etc/bind/db.mywebserver.net";
         allow-query { any; };

     };

There are basically 2 kinds of queries in the DNS world.  Recursive and 
non recursive.  A recursive query will query other dns servers until it 
resolves the name.  A non recursive query will only query zone data and 
the entries that are already in the cache.  If that dns server has the 
entry in its cache or zone then it will return it.  If not, then it 
returns nothing.

http://devoracles.com/what-is-a-recursive-dns-query

Sam

From leif at paisd.net  Wed May  6 08:26:26 2009
From: leif at paisd.net (Leif Johnson)
Date: Wed May  6 08:26:36 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Open Resolver
In-Reply-To: <4A018B0D.9090409@net153.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905050821490.9782@dorado.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>
	<4A018B0D.9090409@net153.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905060823160.14040@dorado.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>

Thanks:

I added "allow-query" in both places as you suggested.

Bind will start but the message lof shows numerous lines about:
client 206.76.144.4#33602 query (cache) denied
client 206.76.144.29#33602 query (cache) denied
client 10.250.1.231#34982 query (cache) denied
client 206.76.144.4#32126 query (cache) denied
client 206.76.144.4#36671 query (cache) denied

I'm getting closer. I think.

On Wed, 6 May 2009, Samuel Leon wrote:

> Leif Johnson wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone help me close my open DNS resolver?
>> I have a ticket from OTS that I need to close.
>> 
>> /etc/named.conf: --snip--
>> 
>> logging { category lame-servers { null; }; };
>> // generated by named-bootconf.pl
>> acl "trusted" {
>> 206.76.144.3;
>> 206.77.62.130;
>> 165.95.18.60;
>> 206.76.144.46;
>> 206.76.144.4;
>> 10.250.1.0;
>> 10.250.2.0;
>> 10.250.3.0;
>> 
>> };
>> 
>> options {
>>         directory "named";
>>         /*
>>          * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
>>          * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
>>          * directive below.  Previous versions of BIND always asked
>>          * questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged
>>          * port by default.
>>          */
>>         //query-source address * port 53;
>> 
>> version "not available";
>> allow-recursion { trusted; };
>> allow-notify { trusted; };
>> allow-transfer { trusted; };
>> 
>> };
>> 
>>
>>  ---snip--
>> 
>
>
> To my knowledge, you need to set "allow-query".  So something like:
>
> version "not available";
> allow-recursion { trusted; };
> allow-query { trusted; };
> allow-notify { trusted; };
> allow-transfer { trusted; };
>
>
> But that will disallow any ip other than what is listed in "trusted" from 
> getting queries.  If you have any zones that you are hosting and you want the 
> outside world to be able to resolve them then you need to allow queries from 
> anywhere on them.  So to do that you need to add allow-query any to each 
> zone:
>
>
>    zone "mywebserver.net" {
>        type master;
>        file "/etc/bind/db.mywebserver.net";
>        allow-query { any; };
>
>    };
>
> There are basically 2 kinds of queries in the DNS world.  Recursive and non 
> recursive.  A recursive query will query other dns servers until it resolves 
> the name.  A non recursive query will only query zone data and the entries 
> that are already in the cache.  If that dns server has the entry in its cache 
> or zone then it will return it.  If not, then it returns nothing.
>
> http://devoracles.com/what-is-a-recursive-dns-query
>
> Sam
>
>

-- 
Sincerely,
Leif Johnson
(361) 749-1200 x. 316
http://blog.paisd.net
From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 16:43:52 2009
From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes)
Date: Wed May  6 16:43:55 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] cheap dial up isp, with great american service!
Message-ID: <7e4994a70905061443p5d9504b6r982698bb1d5bda63@mail.gmail.com>

my friend David highly recommends this service.

http://www.basicisp.net/

promo code... 9736511

again, 9736511 is the code...
From satlug at net153.net  Wed May  6 18:24:58 2009
From: satlug at net153.net (Samuel Leon)
Date: Wed May  6 18:25:08 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Open Resolver
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905060823160.14040@dorado.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905050821490.9782@dorado.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>	<4A018B0D.9090409@net153.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0905060823160.14040@dorado.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>
Message-ID: <4A021C4A.4020500@net153.net>

Leif Johnson wrote:


> Thanks:
> 
> I added "allow-query" in both places as you suggested.
> 
> Bind will start but the message lof shows numerous lines about:
> client 206.76.144.4#33602 query (cache) denied
> client 206.76.144.29#33602 query (cache) denied
> client 10.250.1.231#34982 query (cache) denied
> client 206.76.144.4#32126 query (cache) denied
> client 206.76.144.4#36671 query (cache) denied
> 
> I'm getting closer. I think.
> 


Strange, it shouldn't be denying the clients if there are in the trusted 
  acl list...

Sam
From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Thu May  7 00:01:53 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Thu May  7 00:01:55 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
Message-ID: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking for a way to connect a standard desktop system to the
Internet via a wireless connection.


The configuration I would like to implement is:


ISP -> Cable "Modem" -> Computer A -> Netgear WG602v3 ////////////

//////// Some wireless box --> Computer B


The only wireless connection is the /////// link.  I can't seem to find
the right Netgear product and I'm not sure if the Netgear I have will
connect properly to a Linksys component.

Suggestions?

  -- Bruce
From satlug at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  7 00:41:38 2009
From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright)
Date: Thu May  7 00:41:41 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2kr405lu2nmq3s60vkn5n3a1ij292vhjcl@4ax.com>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 00:01:53 -0500, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I'm looking for a way to connect a standard desktop system to the
>Internet via a wireless connection.   << gescnipp >>
> I can't seem to find
>the right Netgear product and I'm not sure if the Netgear I have will
>connect properly to a Linksys component.

Have you looked at wireless print servers? Some of them come with
100Base-T (RJ-45) connectors for one or more computers as well. Example:
http://www.netgear.com/Products/PrintServers/WirelessPrintServers/WGPS606.aspx

Wireless Ethernet bridges seem to be higher priced items, except for the
one that Linksys makes for their IP phones. It has a regular LAN jack
but no power supply, so a little hunting at a second-hand store, Altex,
or even RatShak will get you going. Reports say it works with any
network device such as a PC, not just their phone.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124256

Of course most of us just put a Ralink 802.11g card inside the box, but
if that's not practical, look at these other wireless devices.  --Don

-- 
We're headed for a Quantum Collapse!
From jeremymann at gmail.com  Thu May  7 08:27:44 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Thu May  7 08:27:46 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905070627h29fe8971oc49121ea6fbfaf10@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote:

> The only wireless connection is the /////// link.  I can't seem to find
> the right Netgear product and I'm not sure if the Netgear I have will
> connect properly to a Linksys component.
>
> Suggestions?

Bruce, it sounds like a wireless bridge device would suit this
situation. I have an older Linksys WET11 that I connect with my D-Link
wireless router. It works perfectly as long as you set it up properly.
New out of the box, you have to use their software to tell it
DHCP/Static and to enter your wireless key.



-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From mgrooms at satx.rr.com  Thu May  7 08:56:06 2009
From: mgrooms at satx.rr.com (Matt Grooms)
Date: Thu May  7 08:56:14 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <057901c9cf1b$91f92260$7500000a@burnside.local>

Why not use this arrangement for greater flexibility?

ISP -> Cable "Modem" -> Some cheapo router running dd-wrt-->Computer A
ISP -> Cable "Modem" -> Some cheapo router running dd-wrt///////////// Netgear WG602v3-->Computer B

> -----Original Message-----
> From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Dubbs
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:02 AM
> To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
> Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
>
> I'm looking for a way to connect a standard desktop system to the
> Internet via a wireless connection.
>
>
> The configuration I would like to implement is:
>
>
> ISP -> Cable "Modem" -> Computer A -> Netgear WG602v3 ////////////
>
> //////// Some wireless box --> Computer B
>
>
> The only wireless connection is the /////// link.  I can't seem to find
> the right Netgear product and I'm not sure if the Netgear I have will
> connect properly to a Linksys component.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>   -- Bruce
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
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From corpustexn at yahoo.com  Thu May  7 11:09:09 2009
From: corpustexn at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Thu May  7 11:09:14 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
In-Reply-To: <1241575960.13662.45.camel@toddwbucy-laptop>
Message-ID: <485023.57719.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>





--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:

> From: Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net>
> Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 9:12 PM
> I finally figured got around to hacking an external antenna
> to my
> laptop.  Since my wifi card is a run of the mill Intel ABG
> I was able to
> find a cable
> <http://www.data-alliance.net/servlet/Detail?no=74> to
> connect to my spare antenna
> <http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=416>.
> 
> This might seem trivial to some of the more technically
> proficient on
> this list but its the first important step in my quest for
> a more cost
> effective solution to Internet access. 
> I live relatively close to downtown on the east side and
> with this new
> antenna I can get a very week signal from the City's
> wifi AP at the
> court house.  (for those of you who don't venture
> downtown San Antonio
> has had free public wifi in about a 2 block vicinity of the
> courthouse
> and city hall for the last couple of years).  My idea is
> this do a bit
> of wardriving with a gps and I can then map the exact
> location of the AP
> so that I can then aim a (as of yet to be built) bi-quad
> wifi antenna
> <http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/15/how-to-build-a-wifi-biquad-dish-antenna/>
> and pick up a strong signal.  Eventually, I would like to
> extend the municipal wifi network to my immediate
> neighborhood by building a wifi access point (or is
> wifi-bridge the proper term?).
> 
> Before I get to deep into this process however I thought I
> would be wise
> to seek ya'lls advice on this topic.  In particular,
> technical, legal,
> and security considerations.  
> 
> Thanks
> Todd

There is no doubt the biquad is a more exotic solution than what I tried a couple of years ago.  Just a piece of coax with the correct impedance, I don't remember what impedance now of course, and a connector from altex for the wifi card. and an 11 ounce coffee can.  The included link has a calculator for the location of the hole you need to drill or gouge out. I kept it simple by trimming back the center conductor insulation to the right length.  If I recall about 1.2 inches.  And then soldered the shield directly to the can.  Here in Corpus my closest access point was about a half mile, and with obstrutions, but I could connect.  Of course the biquad is much cooler!
http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html 
> 
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From j at jvpappas.net  Thu May  7 13:29:16 2009
From: j at jvpappas.net (John Pappas)
Date: Thu May  7 13:29:18 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c0ec4450905071129p5a07462h85d2b5df49739cdc@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/7 Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com>

> I'm looking for a way to connect a standard desktop system to the
> Internet via a wireless connection.
>
> The configuration I would like to implement is:
>
> ISP -> Cable "Modem" -> Computer A -> Netgear WG602v3 ////////////
>
> //////// Some wireless box --> Computer B
>

I use WRT54Gx routers running DD-WRT in "Wireless Client" mode to connect
ie:

ISP -> Modem -> M0n0wall --> WAP1 /////  ///// WRT54G Client -> Wired Client
Island1
                                        |               /////  ///// WRT54G
Client -> Wired Client Island2
                                        --> WAP2 /////  /////  Normal Wifi
clients

Note:  WAPs run on different SSIDs and Channels to minimize interference.  I
understand that the newer "dual band" routers have multiple radios to
function on multiple bands simultaniulsly.


> The only wireless connection is the /////// link.  I can't seem to find
> the right Netgear product and I'm not sure if the Netgear I have will
> connect properly to a Linksys component.
>

The DDWRT firmware overcomes some of this, as it does not limit
"bridge/clients" to same manufacturer MAC addrs.  I have extra WRT54G
devices loaded with DDWRT firmware if you want to buy one (them) at a
reasonable price(s).

HTH,
jp
From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Thu May  7 16:12:42 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Thu May  7 16:12:43 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] mail archives....
Message-ID: <232354.71042.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



hey folks, 


I lost track of a conversation here in the mailing list and wanted to check it out on the archives, but I haven't been able to access them via http.

did the list move or am I on drugs????

thanks,
esv.


      
From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com  Thu May  7 16:06:29 2009
From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes)
Date: Thu May  7 16:12:57 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] dumb question
Message-ID: <7e4994a70905071406h55593f74sbe8fea9d6af33db3@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know if I would have to have 2 good inkjet catridges in an HP
Officejet to print in black or greyscale?  Or will it work with just a good
black cartridge?

Do I just keep the empty color catridge in the machine with the new FULL
black cartrigge...or can I run them with strictly the new back cartridge
without an empty or new color catridge?

I mainly use black ink so don't really need color much ..

Thank you very much!  cheryl
From jtiner at satx.rr.com  Thu May  7 16:18:31 2009
From: jtiner at satx.rr.com (James Tiner)
Date: Thu May  7 16:18:35 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] mail archives....
In-Reply-To: <232354.71042.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <232354.71042.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1241731111.25656.0.camel@james-desktop>

Can't both be true? ;-)



On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:12 -0700, Enrique Sanchez Vela wrote:
> 
> hey folks, 
> 
> 
> I lost track of a conversation here in the mailing list and wanted to check it out on the archives, but I haven't been able to access them via http.
> 
> did the list move or am I on drugs????
> 
> thanks,
> esv.
> 
> 
>       

From jtiner at satx.rr.com  Thu May  7 16:19:45 2009
From: jtiner at satx.rr.com (James Tiner)
Date: Thu May  7 16:19:47 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] dumb question
In-Reply-To: <7e4994a70905071406h55593f74sbe8fea9d6af33db3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e4994a70905071406h55593f74sbe8fea9d6af33db3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241731185.25656.2.camel@james-desktop>

You can run with an empty color cartridge. you won't be able to print
color but should still work with just the black cartridge

On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:06 -0500, Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> Does anyone know if I would have to have 2 good inkjet catridges in an HP
> Officejet to print in black or greyscale?  Or will it work with just a good
> black cartridge?
> 
> Do I just keep the empty color catridge in the machine with the new FULL
> black cartrigge...or can I run them with strictly the new back cartridge
> without an empty or new color catridge?
> 
> I mainly use black ink so don't really need color much ..
> 
> Thank you very much!  cheryl

From hc at lookcee.com  Thu May  7 16:35:14 2009
From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee)
Date: Thu May  7 16:35:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] dumb question
In-Reply-To: <1241731185.25656.2.camel@james-desktop>
References: <7e4994a70905071406h55593f74sbe8fea9d6af33db3@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241731185.25656.2.camel@james-desktop>
Message-ID: <4A035412.1010408@lookcee.com>

James Tiner wrote:
> You can run with an empty color cartridge. you won't be able to print
> color but should still work with just the black cartridge
>
> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:06 -0500, Cheryl Holmes wrote:
>   
>> Does anyone know if I would have to have 2 good inkjet catridges in an HP
>> Officejet to print in black or greyscale?  Or will it work with just a good
>> black cartridge?
>>
>> Do I just keep the empty color catridge in the machine with the new FULL
>> black cartrigge...or can I run them with strictly the new back cartridge
>> without an empty or new color catridge?
>>
>> I mainly use black ink so don't really need color much ..
>>
>> Thank you very much!  cheryl
>>     

I agree it should work Cheryl dunno fer sur on th HP but with Epson you 
can do that,  I would leave the empty in place.
herb

From hc at lookcee.com  Thu May  7 16:41:08 2009
From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee)
Date: Thu May  7 16:41:10 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] mail archives....
In-Reply-To: <1241731111.25656.0.camel@james-desktop>
References: <232354.71042.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1241731111.25656.0.camel@james-desktop>
Message-ID: <4A035574.9030103@lookcee.com>

James Tiner wrote:
> Can't both be true? ;-)
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:12 -0700, Enrique Sanchez Vela wrote:
>   
>> hey folks, 
>>
>>
>> I lost track of a conversation here in the mailing list and wanted to check it out on the archives, but I haven't been able to access them via http.
>>
>> did the list move or am I on drugs????
>>
>> thanks,
>> esv.
>>     


Or can both be true? But this worked for me. 
http://www.satlug.org/pipermail/satlug/
herb
>>
>>       
>>     
>
>   

From satlug at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  7 16:53:14 2009
From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright)
Date: Thu May  7 16:53:17 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] mail archives....
In-Reply-To: <232354.71042.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <232354.71042.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <lql605t9r6fi47fu829l7pbdfvvolimu0j@4ax.com>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 14:12:42 -0700 (PDT), Enrique Sanchez Vela
<esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I lost track of a conversation here in the mailing list and wanted to check it out on the archives, but I haven't been able to access them via http.
>
>did the list move or am I on drugs????


Mailing List Archive is the second entry in the sidebar of
www.satlug.org. "Search" and (further down) "Archive" do not work at
present.  --Don

-- 
www.satlug.org - The official reference for SATLUG matters.
From ovalvw57 at yahoo.com  Thu May  7 17:12:45 2009
From: ovalvw57 at yahoo.com (That clown again....)
Date: Thu May  7 17:12:47 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] mail archives....
Message-ID: <7622.33321.qm@web50409.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


 
  

--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:

> did the list move or am I on drugs????


And the problem with that would be????????



      
From jdchoate at gmail.com  Thu May  7 17:38:45 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Thu May  7 17:38:50 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] dumb question
In-Reply-To: <4A035412.1010408@lookcee.com>
References: <7e4994a70905071406h55593f74sbe8fea9d6af33db3@mail.gmail.com>
	<1241731185.25656.2.camel@james-desktop>
	<4A035412.1010408@lookcee.com>
Message-ID: <200905071738.46345.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Thursday 07 May 2009 16:35:14 Herb Cee wrote:
> James Tiner wrote:
> > You can run with an empty color cartridge. you won't be able to print
> > color but should still work with just the black cartridge
> >
> > On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:06 -0500, Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> >   
> >> Does anyone know if I would have to have 2 good inkjet catridges in an HP
> >> Officejet to print in black or greyscale?  Or will it work with just a good
> >> black cartridge?
> >>
> >> Do I just keep the empty color catridge in the machine with the new FULL
> >> black cartrigge...or can I run them with strictly the new back cartridge
> >> without an empty or new color catridge?
> >>
> >> I mainly use black ink so don't really need color much ..
> >>
> >> Thank you very much!  cheryl
> >>     
> 
> I agree it should work Cheryl dunno fer sur on th HP but with Epson you 
> can do that,  I would leave the empty in place.
> herb
> 
> 

Agreed, but be sure to go into the printer config and find the options where you set print resolution and color... such as "300dpi, black+color cartridge".... and set it to an option which has black cartridge only. That way, items which normally print in color will now print in greyscale instead of not at all.
From satlug at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  7 17:47:44 2009
From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright)
Date: Thu May  7 17:47:46 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] mail archives....
In-Reply-To: <7622.33321.qm@web50409.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <7622.33321.qm@web50409.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c1p605pgca4ik3s11sqrjqt24h96emhi37@4ax.com>

Enrique Sanchez Vela wrote:
> did the list move or am I on drugs????

"That clown again...." wrote:
>And the problem with that would be????????
   
You lose your title as Miss Hill Country Village?

-- 
We're headed for a Quantum Collapse!
From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com  Thu May  7 18:19:26 2009
From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes)
Date: Thu May  7 18:19:29 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] printer cartridge questions, answered
Message-ID: <7e4994a70905071619v59dd5084ve50b52250cab292b@mail.gmail.com>

THANK ALL OF YOU VERY MUCH!

Thanks to Herb for everything...to Richard for a great source and brand,
price  of compatible NEW cartridges

and to all of you great guys for your continued help and support!  cheryl

-- 
When you have so little in life, there's nothing as precious as the
unselfish, undying love, devotion and companionship of  blessed little
angels we call our pets....(in memory and deepest love, Hillary, June 2008;
Misty Nov. 2007; Maxi, July 2004; Sheba, May 2000).
From j at jvpappas.net  Thu May  7 18:55:43 2009
From: j at jvpappas.net (John Pappas)
Date: Thu May  7 18:55:46 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: GMail Labs Additions...
Message-ID: <4c0ec4450905071655r2ae023d8w9468e5b78bd458f1@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

This is not exactly SATLUG related (Although I know that some of you
use Gmail), but I wanted to pass along some of the cool features that
Google Labs have added to Gmail:

-- OFFLINE!!! -- Google GEARS integration of Gmail -- Handles "Flaky
Connections", as well as On/Offline.  Allows for full Gmail experience
without the net (ie Airplane!!) on all major OS's.  Love it so far.  I
use GEARS for offline Google Reader and RTM tasks as well.  The "Flaky
Connection Mode" really helps when I am in a weak cell area and the
connection is a little lossy.  Having the search capabilities of
GMail, along with the standard interface and even the Gmail Labs
addons is a BIG win.

-- Multiple Inboxes -- Places custom search boxes to right of regular
inbox.  For example: "is:unread from:satlug.org" gives me a custom
inbox for unread satlug.

-- Quick Links:  Basically stored queries that can be executed with a
single click.

-- Movable widgets: Can relocate Labels, Chat, and other widgets around.

There are a number of other Labs addons that I use, but those are the biggies.

Thanks!
jp
From j at jvpappas.net  Thu May  7 19:01:34 2009
From: j at jvpappas.net (John Pappas)
Date: Thu May  7 19:01:36 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] How to remove a swelled APC battery?
In-Reply-To: <79ec289f0904301112x747108fbl9c20ed18ec453dc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <79ec289f0904301001o2bb52560vb84b682633f5c063@mail.gmail.com>
	<869de8470904301051y1c6980f9g93cc5775149c729a@mail.gmail.com>
	<79ec289f0904301112x747108fbl9c20ed18ec453dc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c0ec4450905071701m4b017377ka1a9f43db9e63821@mail.gmail.com>

I had some of that, so I opened the case (APC 2200/3000 RU).  I guess that I
was lucky enough to only have to unscrew the case pieces and I levered the
batteries out once I could get access above them.  I was able to loosen the
rails enough so that I could remove the cables, separate the battery packs,
and remove each SLA cell separately.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 13:12, Jeremy Mann <jeremymann@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, FIRESTORM_v1 <firestorm.v1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Your best bet is to start popping rivets in the casing of the UPS to
> > get the battery out.  The plastic is molded and it won't change shape.
> > Besides, generally poking batteries with sharp objects isn't
> > recommended. :P
> >
> > I had a 2200 that did the same thing to me a few months ago.  A
> > half-dozen drilled out rivets later and ~$60 in new batteries, I was
> > up and running.
>
> I did start doing that, but I don't think its a good way to do it.
> I'll just replace it with a power strip for now. Those nodes aren't
> that important and luckily non of our main servers were on that UPS.
>
>
> --
> Jeremy Mann
> jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu
>
> University of Texas Health Science Center
> Bioinformatics Core Facility
> http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
> Phone: (210) 567-2672
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From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu  Thu May  7 19:25:48 2009
From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler)
Date: Thu May  7 19:25:51 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] social networking software
Message-ID: <200905080025.n480Pm5o024864@biochem.uthscsa.edu>

Satluggers:

What social networking software (MUST BE open source!!) exists that would
lend itself to organizing communities, sharing documents, creating groups?
I am thinking of things similar to linkedin, facebook, etc.

Also, is there any OPEN SOURCE software that is able to search pubmed,
citeseer, IEEE NASA, Arxiv, Repec and similar indices?

Thanks, -b.
From trunty at linuxismybff.com  Thu May  7 19:59:32 2009
From: trunty at linuxismybff.com (Travis Runty)
Date: Thu May  7 19:59:34 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] social networking software
In-Reply-To: <200905080025.n480Pm5o024864@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
References: <200905080025.n480Pm5o024864@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
Message-ID: <c056390f0905071759g2675ca3s7a82fcbbd73a5cff@mail.gmail.com>

People aggregator sounds like the product you are looking for.

http://www.peopleaggregator.net
http://www.broadbandmechanics.com

They make the source hard to find but I am pretty sure it is open source.

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Borries Demeler <demeler@biochem.uthscsa.edu
> wrote:

> Satluggers:
>
> What social networking software (MUST BE open source!!) exists that would
> lend itself to organizing communities, sharing documents, creating groups?
> I am thinking of things similar to linkedin, facebook, etc.
>
> Also, is there any OPEN SOURCE software that is able to search pubmed,
> citeseer, IEEE NASA, Arxiv, Repec and similar indices?
>
> Thanks, -b.
> --
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From rsuberg at satx.rr.com  Thu May  7 21:04:05 2009
From: rsuberg at satx.rr.com (Richard Suberg)
Date: Thu May  7 20:04:29 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] dumb question
In-Reply-To: <200905071738.46345.jdchoate@gmail.com>
References: <7e4994a70905071406h55593f74sbe8fea9d6af33db3@mail.gmail.com>	<1241731185.25656.2.camel@james-desktop>	<4A035412.1010408@lookcee.com>
	<200905071738.46345.jdchoate@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANCP0atn2iZLngkpSr38bh7CgAAAEAAAAASDrHmHWQRNi8E2I+4MF0IBAAAAAA==@satx.rr.com>

The way that it would work is fine with an empty cart.  Set print quality to
grayscale (not color) and should be fine.  It won't matter whether you say
color cart or photo cart, just say grayscale.

Richard
http://www.kevinspitcrew.com

-----Original Message-----
From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf
Of John D Choate
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:39 PM
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] dumb question

On Thursday 07 May 2009 16:35:14 Herb Cee wrote:
> James Tiner wrote:
> > You can run with an empty color cartridge. you won't be able to print
> > color but should still work with just the black cartridge
> >
> > On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:06 -0500, Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> >   
> >> Does anyone know if I would have to have 2 good inkjet catridges in an
HP
> >> Officejet to print in black or greyscale?  Or will it work with just a
good
> >> black cartridge?
> >>
> >> Do I just keep the empty color catridge in the machine with the new
FULL
> >> black cartrigge...or can I run them with strictly the new back
cartridge
> >> without an empty or new color catridge?
> >>
> >> I mainly use black ink so don't really need color much ..
> >>
> >> Thank you very much!  cheryl
> >>     
> 
> I agree it should work Cheryl dunno fer sur on th HP but with Epson you 
> can do that,  I would leave the empty in place.
> herb
> 
> 

Agreed, but be sure to go into the printer config and find the options where
you set print resolution and color... such as "300dpi, black+color
cartridge".... and set it to an option which has black cartridge only. That
way, items which normally print in color will now print in greyscale instead
of not at all.
-- 
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From horned0wl93 at gmail.com  Fri May  8 00:04:35 2009
From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed)
Date: Fri May  8 00:04:45 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A03BD63.7050808@gmail.com>

I'm a bit confused here...  If you have a wireless network available to
you, why not just install a wireless NIC on the machine in question?  My
own setup (3 machines) is a hybrid of wired and wireless on a Linksys
router:

ISP -> Cable modem -> Linksys WRT54GS -> System A (wired)

-> System B (wired)

-> System C (wireless)

-> Guest System(s) (either)
I've used Belkin, Linksys and Netgear wireless NICs to connect desktops
and towers to my network.

Conversely, if you have no router, but have both a wired and wireless
NIC in the same desktop, you should be able to setup some version of
internet connection sharing (ICS) on the Wireless NIC, and let your
desktop control access to the internet like a server:

ISP -> Cable modem -> System A wired NIC -> System A wireless NIC ->
System B.

Cheers;
Ed
============

Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> I'm looking for a way to connect a standard desktop system to the
> Internet via a wireless connection.
>
>
> The configuration I would like to implement is:
>
>
> ISP -> Cable "Modem" -> Computer A -> Netgear WG602v3 ////////////
>
> //////// Some wireless box --> Computer B
>
>
> The only wireless connection is the /////// link.  I can't seem to find
> the right Netgear product and I'm not sure if the Netgear I have will
> connect properly to a Linksys component.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>   -- Bruce
>   

From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Fri May  8 00:49:59 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Fri May  8 00:50:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <4A03BD63.7050808@gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A03BD63.7050808@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A03C807.7040908@gmail.com>

ed wrote:
> I'm a bit confused here...  If you have a wireless network available to
> you, why not just install a wireless NIC on the machine in question?  My
> own setup (3 machines) is a hybrid of wired and wireless on a Linksys
> router:
> 
> ISP -> Cable modem -> Linksys WRT54GS -> System A (wired)
> 
> -> System B (wired)
> 
> -> System C (wireless)
> 
> -> Guest System(s) (either)
> I've used Belkin, Linksys and Netgear wireless NICs to connect desktops
> and towers to my network.
> 
> Conversely, if you have no router, but have both a wired and wireless
> NIC in the same desktop, you should be able to setup some version of
> internet connection sharing (ICS) on the Wireless NIC, and let your
> desktop control access to the internet like a server:
> 
> ISP -> Cable modem -> System A wired NIC -> System A wireless NIC ->
> System B.

I've thought about that but haven't researched wireless NICs for Linux 
compatibility yet.  I was also looking at flexibility.  If I have another system 
without wireless capability, I'd like to be able to plug it in at the second 
location.

What's your experience with wireless nics for Linux?

   -- Bruce
From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Fri May  8 01:00:29 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Fri May  8 01:00:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <4A03C807.7040908@gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>	<4A03BD63.7050808@gmail.com>
	<4A03C807.7040908@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A03CA7D.6090407@gmail.com>

Bruce Dubbs wrote:

> I've thought about that but haven't researched wireless NICs for Linux 
> compatibility yet. 

I sent the message too quickly.  I found a good list at

http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_alles.php

The Intel 2100 or 2200  may be good choices as they appear to have built in 
kernel support.

   -- Bruce
From jeremymann at gmail.com  Fri May  8 08:48:23 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Fri May  8 08:48:25 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <4A03CA7D.6090407@gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A03BD63.7050808@gmail.com> <4A03C807.7040908@gmail.com>
	<4A03CA7D.6090407@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905080648j7214a9afw31be5f51a2944242@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
>> I've thought about that but haven't researched wireless NICs for Linux
>> compatibility yet.
>
> I sent the message too quickly.  I found a good list at
>
> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_alles.php
>
> The Intel 2100 or 2200  may be good choices as they appear to have built in
> kernel support.

Also, the el cheapo NICs at Altex work out of the box as well.

http://www.altex.com/ConnectGear-Wireless-G-PCI-Adapter-WP440G-P142207C10871.aspx

-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Fri May  8 10:24:22 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Fri May  8 10:24:28 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <79ec289f0905080648j7214a9afw31be5f51a2944242@mail.gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>	<4A03BD63.7050808@gmail.com>
	<4A03C807.7040908@gmail.com>	<4A03CA7D.6090407@gmail.com>
	<79ec289f0905080648j7214a9afw31be5f51a2944242@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A044EA6.705@gmail.com>

Jeremy Mann wrote:
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>>
>>> I've thought about that but haven't researched wireless NICs for Linux
>>> compatibility yet.
>> I sent the message too quickly.  I found a good list at
>>
>> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_alles.php
>>
>> The Intel 2100 or 2200  may be good choices as they appear to have built in
>> kernel support.
> 
> Also, the el cheapo NICs at Altex work out of the box as well.
> 
> http://www.altex.com/ConnectGear-Wireless-G-PCI-Adapter-WP440G-P142207C10871.aspx

OK, thanks.  My first preference is still for a wireless bridge, but I'll check 
that out.

   -- Bruce


From jeremymann at gmail.com  Fri May  8 10:29:42 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Fri May  8 10:29:44 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Wireless bridges
In-Reply-To: <4A044EA6.705@gmail.com>
References: <875272cc0905062201m7fad0484vcb235feffe54ff0d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A03BD63.7050808@gmail.com> <4A03C807.7040908@gmail.com>
	<4A03CA7D.6090407@gmail.com>
	<79ec289f0905080648j7214a9afw31be5f51a2944242@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A044EA6.705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905080829l70c2d500k563ecf9fe8da2e2c@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also, the el cheapo NICs at Altex work out of the box as well.
>>
>>
>> http://www.altex.com/ConnectGear-Wireless-G-PCI-Adapter-WP440G-P142207C10871.aspx
>
> OK, thanks. ?My first preference is still for a wireless bridge, but I'll
> check that out.

Keep in mind you're going to pay at least double (maybe even triple)
in price for a bridge.


-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From jeremymann at gmail.com  Fri May  8 11:13:27 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Fri May  8 11:13:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Cable TV on the computer
In-Reply-To: <4A0458FD.3090407@comcast.net>
References: <4A0458FD.3090407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905080913m3baf504emdd06fef70110d5a9@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Ian L. Target <ian69@comcast.net> wrote:
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/TV-PC-TUNER-CAPTURE-RECORD-VIDEO-PCI-CARD-W-REMOTE-NEW_W0QQitemZ260350221851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item3c9e151e1b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50>First,
> this may be a duplicate message. ?Please excuse if it is.
>
> I recently have been wanting to try and watch TV on my computer. ?I know
> TV cards have been around a while, but have never purchased or used one.
>
> I found this item on ebay, Item number: 260350221851. ?The description
> page says "TV tuner" but I see a cable jack as well. ?Forgive me if this
> sounds like a dumb question, but again, I have never used this type of
> card before - can I watch cable TV (I have Time Warner RR) using this
> card? ?Ideally, I want to use it with my Linux Mint box. ?I have a dual
> boot system with XP on the other hard drive if necessary. ?I don't plan
> on doing any type of recording or editing - I just want to watch Nancy
> Grace from CNN on my computer.

Besides RoadRunner, do you current have Cable with TWC? If so, yes,
this card will work. However it will not work with digital cable.
You'd have to hook up the composite out from the digital box to this
card.



-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From pjcrux at gmail.com  Fri May  8 11:14:47 2009
From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter Cross)
Date: Fri May  8 11:14:49 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Cable TV on the computer
In-Reply-To: <4A0458FD.3090407@comcast.net>
References: <4A0458FD.3090407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <7c63fb3d0905080914p30d268bi93a5ae960a8a7750@mail.gmail.com>

I would be wary of this... To answer your question yes your would be able
to. However it only supports NTSC format (analog) and not the new ATSC
(digital format).

Not sure what type of cable you have with RR, whether Digital TV or
standard.

also be sure that there is a driver for the card for your distro.

I recently purchased a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1600 and it works well with my
linux server (Fedora 9) and am attempting (gettign there) to stream over my
network.

-Peter

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Ian L. Target <ian69@comcast.net> wrote:

> <
> http://cgi.ebay.com/TV-PC-TUNER-CAPTURE-RECORD-VIDEO-PCI-CARD-W-REMOTE-NEW_W0QQitemZ260350221851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item3c9e151e1b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
> >First,
> this may be a duplicate message.  Please excuse if it is.
>
> I recently have been wanting to try and watch TV on my computer.  I know
> TV cards have been around a while, but have never purchased or used one.
>
> I found this item on ebay, Item number: 260350221851.  The description
> page says "TV tuner" but I see a cable jack as well.  Forgive me if this
> sounds like a dumb question, but again, I have never used this type of
> card before - can I watch cable TV (I have Time Warner RR) using this
> card?  Ideally, I want to use it with my Linux Mint box.  I have a dual
> boot system with XP on the other hard drive if necessary.  I don't plan
> on doing any type of recording or editing - I just want to watch Nancy
> Grace from CNN on my computer.
>
> Any type of (constructive) feed back/comments are appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ian
>
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-- 
Cheers!

Peter J. Cross
San Antonio, TX

"Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions"
-James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51

Please consider the environment before printing this email
From pjcrux at gmail.com  Fri May  8 11:24:21 2009
From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter Cross)
Date: Fri May  8 11:24:24 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Amahi Home Server
Message-ID: <7c63fb3d0905080924x140aeb43y7a31861c240711c@mail.gmail.com>

All,
I have been running this for a while now and am quite impressed with the
functionality of this Repository on FC9. The Amahi community is getting the
word out about their efforts and has been featured in the Dutch Linux
Magazine. Please take a minute or two to poke around the site
http://www.amahi.org  or jump on the IRC chat irc.freenode.net in channel
#amahi and see whats going on. Below is the latest update from the
community!

*****************************************************

Juicy Application News from Amahi!

The community is starting to buzz! We have reached a milestone of 25
applications available as one-click installs on Amahi, averaging more than
one a day since we released the platform recently!

There's a bit of everything, from the super-popular Gallery to phpMyAdmin,
Wordpress, Ushare for the Xbox/Playstation, media managers, etc ...

Visit the up-to-date list at the Amahi App Gallery at

    http://www.amahi.org/apps

There are dozens and dozens of applications in the pipeline. Great work from
Amahi community, with a special thanks to the members of the newly minted
Amahi tester program! Coming up there's everything from a DVR (MythTV) to a
complete groupware app and a home security system ... :)

If there?s an application you?d like to see on Amahi share it with the
community via the forums or the IRC channel and you will get help getting it
ready for one-click installation. The core team and the contributors are
available to help, and at the same time are working on making it easier to
find the type of applications you want!

Ah ... kudos to tad2much for submitting Amahi recently in Reddit!

Help promote Amahi by clicking the reddit up arrow (and add comments if you
like) at:

   http://tinyurl.com/amahi-reddit

Hope you like these apps we have and submit ideas, or better yet, package
your own (not hard at all - see our wiki)!

..cpg for the Amahi Team


-- 
Cheers!

Peter J. Cross
San Antonio, TX

"Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions"
-James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51

Please consider the environment before printing this email
From edeleonjr at gmail.com  Fri May  8 11:25:17 2009
From: edeleonjr at gmail.com (Ernest De Leon)
Date: Fri May  8 11:25:19 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: San Antonio Mayoral Election tomorrow.
Message-ID: <ff67f9f70905080925s7f8f5fe1ibe13f4a06ff6971d@mail.gmail.com>

Just reminding everyone that tomorrow is the final election day. Get out
there and vote!
From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com  Fri May  8 12:36:58 2009
From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes)
Date: Fri May  8 12:37:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] cable TV on the net
Message-ID: <7e4994a70905081036q1b417badka104027c52e5ca0b@mail.gmail.com>

Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in...I love watching shows on the net
too...and since there's no real service available...if there was it would
likely be far too expensive for me, I watch streaming podcasts on cable
networks.  This is a great alternative for me.

MSNBC has them up about 1 hour after they air...networks generally take
longer to have their shows up.

HULU.com also has many shows on network and cable TV on their site.

Nancy Grace and other CNN shows (podcasts) can be found here..hope this
helps...c
http://www.cnn.com/services/podcasting/


-- 
When you have so little in life, there's nothing as precious as the
unselfish, undying love, devotion and companionship of  blessed little
angels we call our pets....(in memory and deepest love, Hillary, June 2008;
Misty Nov. 2007; Maxi, July 2004; Sheba, May 2000).
From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com  Fri May  8 12:46:46 2009
From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1)
Date: Fri May  8 12:46:48 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Cable TV on the computer
In-Reply-To: <4A046CCA.6000903@comcast.net>
References: <4A0458FD.3090407@comcast.net>
	<79ec289f0905080913m3baf504emdd06fef70110d5a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A046CCA.6000903@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <869de8470905081046u63b7389h9d6d3186dfb95791@mail.gmail.com>

DigiPic2000 is digital cable service.

The tuner is an analog tuner only, (depending on what Time Warner's
done with the channelmap in the area) you will get all channels lower
than 100.

If you are going to hook it up to your cable box to record stuff
you're watching, then this will fit the bill.  I would recommend
however using the composite connector.  I use a Hauppauge TV tuner
that looks strikingly similar to the one in the Ebay link.

If you are wanting to receive HD channels then you'll want a Digital
QAM tuner  but that will only pull in the HD local stations.  No
premium channels (Like HBO, Starz, etc) as they are encrypted.

I don't know what the state of Linux support for digital cable and
cablecards is, but if you are really looking to receive all subscribed
channels, you will need a digital tuner that is capable of using a
cablecard. The cablecard will be a horrendous pain in the posterior to
get working but it's one of those things that if you can get it
working and it works for a day after, then it will work till the thing
blows up, otherwise you'll be wrought with problems.

A cablecard is a small card, (think PCMCIA-esque) that is an
encryption module that is issued to you by the cable company.  It
serves to decrypt and authorize the digital encrypted channels that
you are subscribed to. It is required for digital channels above 100
that are encrypted and/or copy protected. (CCI) That being said, a
PCMCIA slot on your computer will NOT support a cablecard, it merely
uses the PCMCIA form factor to serve as a connection buss between the
card itself and the QAM tuner/MPEG decoder in the TV set (or PC as the
case may be.)

>From what limited knowledge I have about cablecards and PCs, I have
only seen a Windows Media Center PC take on a cablecard and actually
work with it in some usable form (disregarding a TiVo, which is Linux
based but the hardware and the software is largely proprietary.

In my setup here, I have my DVR hooked up to my HDTV via Composite and
my TV card in my PC connected to the DVR via the "cable out" on the
back of the DVR.  I fire up the TV application and tune to channel 3
and am able to see what the TV is showing, with the exception that all
HD channels are automatically downconverted into a standard signal.

Good luck!

FIRESTORM_v1


On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Ian L. Target <ian69@comcast.net> wrote:
> Jeremy Mann wrote:
>> Besides RoadRunner, do you current have Cable with TWC? If so, yes,
>> this card will work. However it will not work with digital cable.
>> You'd have to hook up the composite out from the digital box to this
>> card.
>>
>
> Again, forgive me for being slow. ?I know most lists dislike those of us
> that have
> to be "spoon fed."
>
> I have the "all-in-one" phone/cable/internet ?service from TW. ?I am
> looking at my
> bill. ?My bill does not state whether it is digital cable or not. ?To be
> honest, I didn't
> know that there is a distinction between the two. ?I always thought
> cable was cable!
>
> My bill says I have the DigiPic 2000 Package, which includes among other
> things,
> a digital home terminal. ?I assume that a) this means that I have
> digital cable and b)
> the terminal that it refers to is that ugly black box that says
> "Scientific Atlanta
> Explorer 4240 HDC" on the front of it.
>
> Jeremy, your response says I have to hookup the composite out from the
> digital
> box to the card. ?This won't work for me as the box is in my front room
> and my
> computer is hooked up to the cable modem in the spare bedroom. ?I just
> assumed
> I could put a Y splitter on the outlet in the bedroom and plug the cable
> directly into
> the card. ?I guess I'll have to call TW and see how much an extra box
> costs per month.
>
> Thank you and the others who responded. ?I appreciate it.
>
> Y'all have a great week end.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
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From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com  Fri May  8 13:06:46 2009
From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes)
Date: Fri May  8 13:06:49 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Greyscale tip,
Message-ID: <7e4994a70905081106n10128629t85f6a216336029e7@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the greyscale tip Richard.  I normally use this, but will make
certain Mom and sister have that set up on their HP printers too..cheryl
-- 
When you have so little in life, there's nothing as precious as the
unselfish, undying love, devotion and companionship of  blessed little
angels we call our pets....(in memory and deepest love, Hillary, June 2008;
Misty Nov. 2007; Maxi, July 2004; Sheba, May 2000).
From jeremymann at gmail.com  Fri May  8 13:25:21 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Fri May  8 13:25:23 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Cable TV on the computer
In-Reply-To: <4A04700F.2040203@comcast.net>
References: <4A0458FD.3090407@comcast.net>
	<79ec289f0905080913m3baf504emdd06fef70110d5a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A04700F.2040203@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905081125l50f835acu65076075d502963f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Ian L. Target <ian69@comcast.net> wrote:

> One more question: ?If I plug the cable directly from the wall outlet in
> the card, will I get any reception at all? ?I guess what I am asking is,
> since I have digital cable, is everything being sent as digital? ?Or is
> it broken up into tiers, some being digital and some being analog?
>
> What I am trying to get at is that CNN is part of TW's basic package.
> You get it whether you have the box or not. ?To get the extra channels,
> you need the box. ?In my bedroom, I have a TV but no box. ?I get CNN and
> a bunch of other channels, just none of the premium stuff.
>
> Back to the card: ?will the card work in the same way? ?Will it get the
> "basic channels" and not just the premium channels? ?This is actually
> what I am looking for.

Yes, if you go out of the wall plate to this TV tuner card, you will
get just the basic channels (78 on down I believe).



-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From jdchoate at gmail.com  Fri May  8 14:12:20 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Fri May  8 14:12:26 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] cable TV on the net
In-Reply-To: <4A0470C6.8050800@comcast.net>
References: <7e4994a70905081036q1b417badka104027c52e5ca0b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A0470C6.8050800@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <200905081412.20787.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Friday 08 May 2009 12:49:58 Ian L. Target wrote:
> Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> > Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in...I love watching shows on the net
> > too...and since there's no real service available...if there was it would
> > likely be far too expensive for me, I watch streaming podcasts on cable
> > networks.  This is a great alternative for me.
> >
> > MSNBC has them up about 1 hour after they air...networks generally take
> > longer to have their shows up.
> >
> > HULU.com also has many shows on network and cable TV on their site.
> >
> > Nancy Grace and other CNN shows (podcasts) can be found here..hope this
> > helps...c
> > http://www.cnn.com/services/podcasting/
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> 
> Cheryl,
> 
> Thanks for the info.  My flat mate hates Nancy Grace.  He refers to her
> at the "b*tch with the peroxided hair."  He doesn't understand: she is
> not a journalist,
> she is an /entertainer./  One doesn't watch her to be informed.  One
> watches her to be entertained.
> 
> Ian
> 

I'll watch her if I feel like tossing my lunch :)
From dmyhand at suddenlink.net  Fri May  8 14:28:55 2009
From: dmyhand at suddenlink.net (Dennis Myhand)
Date: Fri May  8 14:28:56 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] cable TV on the net
In-Reply-To: <200905081412.20787.jdchoate@gmail.com>
References: <7e4994a70905081036q1b417badka104027c52e5ca0b@mail.gmail.com>	<4A0470C6.8050800@comcast.net>
	<200905081412.20787.jdchoate@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0487F7.7010308@suddenlink.net>

John D Choate wrote:
> On Friday 08 May 2009 12:49:58 Ian L. Target wrote:
>>
>> Cheryl,
>>
>> Thanks for the info.  My flat mate hates Nancy Grace.  He refers to her
>> at the "b*tch with the peroxided hair."  He doesn't understand: she is
>> not a journalist,
>> she is an /entertainer./  One doesn't watch her to be informed.  One
>> watches her to be entertained.
>>
>> Ian
>>
> 
> I'll watch her if I feel like tossing my lunch :)
> 
> 

Sounds like some people have a MUCH different idea of entertainment than 
I do.  I think I would get more "entertainment" from watching a chainsaw 
rip through my cajones.
From ovalvw57 at yahoo.com  Fri May  8 17:47:05 2009
From: ovalvw57 at yahoo.com (That clown again....)
Date: Fri May  8 17:47:07 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] cable TV on the net
Message-ID: <994299.95062.qm@web50411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


> her to be informed.? One
> >> watches her to be entertained.

 
> > I'll watch her if I feel like tossing my lunch :)
> > 
> > 
> 
> Sounds like some people have a MUCH different idea of
> entertainment than 
> I do.? I think I would get more "entertainment" from
> watching a chainsaw 
> rip through my cajones.

I'm a professional entertainer. I don't care what anybody watches as long as I get paid. :P


      
From dmyhand at suddenlink.net  Fri May  8 18:31:28 2009
From: dmyhand at suddenlink.net (Dennis Myhand)
Date: Fri May  8 18:31:28 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] cable TV on the net
In-Reply-To: <994299.95062.qm@web50411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <994299.95062.qm@web50411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A04C0D0.9080101@suddenlink.net>

That clown again.... wrote:
>> her to be informed.  One
>>>> watches her to be entertained.
> 
>  
>>> I'll watch her if I feel like tossing my lunch :)
>>>
>>>
>> Sounds like some people have a MUCH different idea of
>> entertainment than 
>> I do.  I think I would get more "entertainment" from
>> watching a chainsaw 
>> rip through my cajones.
> 
> I'm a professional entertainer. I don't care what anybody watches as long as I get paid. :P
> 
> 

Or, as Frank Zappa said, "Shut up and play yer guitar!"
From ftm at satx.rr.com  Sat May  9 05:31:39 2009
From: ftm at satx.rr.com (Sugar)
Date: Sat May  9 05:39:37 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] cable TV on the net
In-Reply-To: <994299.95062.qm@web50411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <994299.95062.qm@web50411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F0FA519301524C22AEBB52D8B49AA2A2@DougWPC1>

I recently purchased a HP pavilion core duo with the TV tuner card, and 
hooked up to my TW cable without an external box.  As TW broadcasts in 
analog, the tuner card converts it to digital, making an additional box from 
TW redundant.  I used the included software to scan the available channels 
and not only receive all the channels that the set top box does on my TV 
set, but additional channels that it does not display.  It seems to work 
much as the late versions of flat screen TVs that have the built in tuners. 
My computer has two LCD monitors, so I can watch HDTV on one and go about my 
business on the other.  I can also record shows on the hard drive and even 
burn them to CD/DVD much like the DVR on the regular TV.  I haven't tried it 
with an external antenna for over-the-air yet, but probably experiment with 
that sometime.
I also notice the availability of software that will pick up TV from the 
internet, however the programming selections seem to be a joke. 

From satlug at net153.net  Thu May  7 17:05:20 2009
From: satlug at net153.net (Samuel Leon)
Date: Sat May  9 11:11:32 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] dumb question
In-Reply-To: <7e4994a70905071406h55593f74sbe8fea9d6af33db3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e4994a70905071406h55593f74sbe8fea9d6af33db3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A035B20.5070506@net153.net>

Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> Does anyone know if I would have to have 2 good inkjet catridges in an HP
> Officejet to print in black or greyscale?  Or will it work with just a good
> black cartridge?
> 
> Do I just keep the empty color catridge in the machine with the new FULL
> black cartrigge...or can I run them with strictly the new back cartridge
> without an empty or new color catridge?
> 
> I mainly use black ink so don't really need color much ..
> 
> Thank you very much!  cheryl


Should work either way.

I gave up on inkjet printers.  If you only do black and white printing 
there are cheap laser printers that you just plug into your newtwork and 
go:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828113291
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828113291

I used an inkjet printer for heavy printing for about a year once.  I 
bought one of those black ink refill kits with a pint of black ink off 
of ebay for like $20.  I thought I was really going to stick it to the 
man but after about 700 pages and refilling the cartridge about 4 times 
it stopped working completely.  So I was faced with buy another 
cartridge or put my money in something better....

Sam
From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 13:36:26 2009
From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes)
Date: Sat May  9 13:36:29 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] complete system crash/failure HELP PLEASE!!!
Message-ID: <7e4994a70905091136u267308e3wcdb1577da996ad10@mail.gmail.com>

I hope someone will take me under wing!  Last night I had a complete
system failure/crash!  I have no way to email and can only use a phone
for help.  Right now I'm at Mom's but will be home in a few minutes to
an hour.

Iwrote down what I got when I tried to boot after the latest update..

I saw there was 12 updates so I started update manager but it didn't
install all the updates.  It asked me if I wanted to do the upgrade
and I thought it said update so I said yes...I didn't know what that
meant and was so tired I didn't realize it til later.  Required system
restart which I did but then no booting, just the message below...No
clude what happened.

>init:1:/bin/sleep:not found
listed 9 times
>segmentation fault
3 times
>check root=bootarg cat /proc/cmdline,or missing modules,devices:cat/proc/modules ls/dev
>segmentation fault
3 more times
>Alert!/dev/disk/by-uuid/5d4b2ed0a-f3a8-4fd9-b205-24908c3a0630 does not exist
>opping to ashell!
>Busy Box v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu 12) built in shell (ash)
>enter help for a list of built in commands
>(initramf s)

Does anyone know what this means and if it can be fixed?  If so, since
I have no PC at home would someone please call me and walk me through
a possible fix..please???

Thank you very much  cheryl  658-9290
From cdv7 at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  9 17:51:44 2009
From: cdv7 at sbcglobal.net (cdv7@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat May  9 17:51:48 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Topic filter question.
Message-ID: <4A060900.6030205@sbcglobal.net>

Greetings,
I tried to send the following message to <satlug-list-admins@satlug.org> 
but received a failure notice:

"When setting my subscription options, how do I subscribe to a topic 
filter?"

Thank you.
A new Linux user.


From hc at lookcee.com  Sat May  9 18:04:54 2009
From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee)
Date: Sat May  9 18:05:12 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] complete system crash/failure HELP PLEASE!!!
In-Reply-To: <7e4994a70905091136u267308e3wcdb1577da996ad10@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e4994a70905091136u267308e3wcdb1577da996ad10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A060C16.9090409@lookcee.com>

Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> I hope someone will take me under wing!  Last night I had a complete
> system failure/crash!  I have no way to email and can only use a phone
> for help.  Right now I'm at Mom's but will be home in a few minutes to
> an hour.
>
> Iwrote down what I got when I tried to boot after the latest update..
>
> I saw there was 12 updates so I started update manager but it didn't
> install all the updates.  It asked me if I wanted to do the upgrade
> and I thought it said update so I said yes...I didn't know what that
> meant and was so tired I didn't realize it til later.  Required system
> restart which I did but then no booting, just the message below...No
> clude what happened.
>
>   
>> init:1:/bin/sleep:not found
>>     
> listed 9 times
>   
>> segmentation fault
>>     
> 3 times
>   
>> check root=bootarg cat /proc/cmdline,or missing modules,devices:cat/proc/modules ls/dev
>> segmentation fault
>>     
> 3 more times
>   
>> Alert!/dev/disk/by-uuid/5d4b2ed0a-f3a8-4fd9-b205-24908c3a0630 does not exist
>> opping to ashell!
>> Busy Box v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu 12) built in shell (ash)
>> enter help for a list of built in commands
>> (initramf s)
>>     
>
> Does anyone know what this means and if it can be fixed?  If so, since
> I have no PC at home would someone please call me and walk me through
> a possible fix..please???
>
> Thank you very much  cheryl  658-9290
>   
Is anyone helping Cheryl? I live out of the area. She lives in the NE 
area of SA and the reason she got into an upgrade is she is nearly blind 
and has just undergone a severe bout with Lupas. I would try to help but 
I dunno what to do to help her never having gone tru this. She can 
follow on the phone with someone leading her out of the failed upgrade.
Thanks Herb

From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Sat May  9 21:33:48 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Sat May  9 21:33:51 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Topic filter question.
In-Reply-To: <4A060900.6030205@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A060900.6030205@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4A063D0C.4060509@gmail.com>

cdv7@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Greetings,
> I tried to send the following message to <satlug-list-admins@satlug.org> 
> but received a failure notice:
> 
> "When setting my subscription options, how do I subscribe to a topic 
> filter?"

We don't have any topics defined so the options concerning topics are ignored.
The admin (me) defines topics, not the user.

   -- Bruce
From rsuberg at satx.rr.com  Sun May 10 00:18:38 2009
From: rsuberg at satx.rr.com (Richard Suberg)
Date: Sat May  9 23:18:59 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] complete system crash/failure HELP PLEASE!!!
In-Reply-To: <4A060C16.9090409@lookcee.com>
References: <7e4994a70905091136u267308e3wcdb1577da996ad10@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A060C16.9090409@lookcee.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANCP0atn2iZLngkpSr38bh7CgAAAEAAAAOaHffqChVNPttzB3yXX45gBAAAAAA==@satx.rr.com>

That's out of my league, but can't find a disk by uuid?  Hd failure or
system decided to reformat?  I'd hate to break it to her, but that is my
absolutely imperfect opinion on the situation.

Richard
http://www.kevinspitcrew.com

-----Original Message-----
From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf
Of Herb Cee
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 5:05 PM
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] complete system crash/failure HELP PLEASE!!!

Cheryl Holmes wrote:
> I hope someone will take me under wing!  Last night I had a complete
> system failure/crash!  I have no way to email and can only use a phone
> for help.  Right now I'm at Mom's but will be home in a few minutes to
> an hour.
>
> Iwrote down what I got when I tried to boot after the latest update..
>
> I saw there was 12 updates so I started update manager but it didn't
> install all the updates.  It asked me if I wanted to do the upgrade
> and I thought it said update so I said yes...I didn't know what that
> meant and was so tired I didn't realize it til later.  Required system
> restart which I did but then no booting, just the message below...No
> clude what happened.
>
>   
>> init:1:/bin/sleep:not found
>>     
> listed 9 times
>   
>> segmentation fault
>>     
> 3 times
>   
>> check root=bootarg cat /proc/cmdline,or missing
modules,devices:cat/proc/modules ls/dev
>> segmentation fault
>>     
> 3 more times
>   
>> Alert!/dev/disk/by-uuid/5d4b2ed0a-f3a8-4fd9-b205-24908c3a0630 does not
exist
>> opping to ashell!
>> Busy Box v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu 12) built in shell (ash)
>> enter help for a list of built in commands
>> (initramf s)
>>     
>
> Does anyone know what this means and if it can be fixed?  If so, since
> I have no PC at home would someone please call me and walk me through
> a possible fix..please???
>
> Thank you very much  cheryl  658-9290
>   
Is anyone helping Cheryl? I live out of the area. She lives in the NE 
area of SA and the reason she got into an upgrade is she is nearly blind 
and has just undergone a severe bout with Lupas. I would try to help but 
I dunno what to do to help her never having gone tru this. She can 
follow on the phone with someone leading her out of the failed upgrade.
Thanks Herb

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From siffland at nerdshack.com  Sun May 10 00:44:31 2009
From: siffland at nerdshack.com (Sean I)
Date: Sun May 10 00:44:32 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] complete system crash/failure HELP PLEASE!!!
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANCP0atn2iZLngkpSr38bh7CgAAAEAAAAOaHffqChVNPttzB3yXX45gBAAAAAA==@satx.rr.com>
References: <7e4994a70905091136u267308e3wcdb1577da996ad10@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A060C16.9090409@lookcee.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANCP0atn2iZLngkpSr38bh7CgAAAEAAAAOaHffqChVNPttzB3yXX45gBAAAAAA==@satx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3ae131d00905092244p27c4e941p2eac4e924c7bdeb4@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Richard Suberg <rsuberg@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> That's out of my league, but can't find a disk by uuid? ?Hd failure or
> system decided to reformat? ?I'd hate to break it to her, but that is my
> absolutely imperfect opinion on the situation.
>
> Richard
> http://www.kevinspitcrew.com
>
Reformat, this is not windows....

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-414903.html

Read that forum.  I dont use Ubuntu, but that problem should be able
to be sloved with the above link.

Sean
From hc at lookcee.com  Sun May 10 01:27:00 2009
From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee)
Date: Sun May 10 01:27:02 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] complete system crash/failure HELP PLEASE!!!
In-Reply-To: <3ae131d00905092244p27c4e941p2eac4e924c7bdeb4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e4994a70905091136u267308e3wcdb1577da996ad10@mail.gmail.com>	<4A060C16.9090409@lookcee.com>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANCP0atn2iZLngkpSr38bh7CgAAAEAAAAOaHffqChVNPttzB3yXX45gBAAAAAA==@satx.rr.com>
	<3ae131d00905092244p27c4e941p2eac4e924c7bdeb4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0673B4.6000107@lookcee.com>

Ok I think what happened is that She had accepted a regular update from 
Ubuntu and since the Version 9.04 is now out they offer to upgrade you 
automatically. She did not realise that this was different from normal 
update and clicked yes so it attempted to update and the update failed. 
I live up N of Houston so is a distence call and I don't know enough to 
help her get tru it she lives alone and has only the one puter so she 
needs someone to talk her tru reversing the upgrade and restoring her 
system.

I would gladly do it if I knew how so I hoped someone local to her could 
call her and get her sorted out. She cannot access the web if she cannot 
boot the machine. If noone can help her I will try tomorrow I am way too 
tired tonight.
Come on guys she needs help and lots of you could just pick up the phone 
and talk to her.
herb

Sean I wrote:
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Richard Suberg <rsuberg@satx.rr.com> wrote:
>   
>> That's out of my league, but can't find a disk by uuid? ? Hd failure or
>> system decided to reformat? ? I'd hate to break it to her, but that is my
>> absolutely imperfect opinion on the situation.
>>
>> Richard
>> http://www.kevinspitcrew.com
>>
>>     
> Reformat, this is not windows....
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-414903.html
>
> Read that forum.  I dont use Ubuntu, but that problem should be able
> to be sloved with the above link.
>
> Sean
>   


From scs at worldlinkisp.com  Sun May 10 09:31:12 2009
From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com)
Date: Sun May 10 09:31:16 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <d7b43e226c5e4658a50857e0904767f8.scs@worldlinkisp.com>

Perhaps someone in Cheryl's area (N.E. San Antonio) could
provide her a "Live CD"  _buntu, Knoppix, or whatever.  

This would get her on-line for a walk-through restoration
attempt.  

Seems she must have (or had) a CD or DVD when inititally
installing Ubuntu.  

Lou
Bandera Co.







From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Sun May 10 16:34:40 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Sun May 10 16:34:42 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <d7b43e226c5e4658a50857e0904767f8.scs@worldlinkisp.com>
Message-ID: <266780.68885.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


I'm on the phone w/her now.  I'll take care of it.

-Alex


--- On Sun, 5/10/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com> wrote:

> From: scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> To: satlug@satlug.org
> Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:31 AM
> Perhaps someone in Cheryl's area (N.E. San Antonio)
> could
> provide her a "Live CD"  _buntu, Knoppix, or
> whatever.  
> 
> This would get her on-line for a walk-through restoration
> attempt.  
> 
> Seems she must have (or had) a CD or DVD when inititally
> installing Ubuntu.  
> 
> Lou
> Bandera Co.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Sun May 10 16:47:35 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Sun May 10 16:47:37 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <266780.68885.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <386924.60380.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


Well, the soonest I told her I can fix it is Tuesday.  I told her I'll try the fix on the ubuntu forums that Sean posted.  Worst case I'll just get her files off of there, reinstall and xfer her files back.  Should be pretty easy.  I'll keep you'all posted.

-Alex


--- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:34 PM
> I'm on the phone w/her now.  I'll take care of it.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/10/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com
> <scs@worldlinkisp.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com
> <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:31 AM
> > Perhaps someone in Cheryl's area (N.E. San
> Antonio)
> > could
> > provide her a "Live CD"  _buntu, Knoppix, or
> > whatever.  
> > 
> > This would get her on-line for a walk-through
> restoration
> > attempt.  
> > 
> > Seems she must have (or had) a CD or DVD when
> inititally
> > installing Ubuntu.  
> > 
> > Lou
> > Bandera Co.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > SATLUG@satlug.org
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From geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu  Sun May 10 16:56:10 2009
From: geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu (Geoff)
Date: Sun May 10 16:56:12 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <386924.60380.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <386924.60380.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A074D7A.7010709@w5omr.shacknet.nu>

Alex Bartonek wrote:
> Well, the soonest I told her I can fix it is Tuesday.  I told her I'll try the fix on the ubuntu forums that Sean posted.  Worst case I'll just get her files off of there, reinstall and xfer her files back.  Should be pretty easy.  I'll keep you'all posted.

While you're there, tell her to just simply reply to a message, instead
of starting a whole new thread ;-)

I'm sure I speak for the masses when I say:

Thanks, Alex, for helping Cheryl.

-Geoff

From president at satlug.org  Sun May 10 23:03:48 2009
From: president at satlug.org (Jim Wells, President)
Date: Sun May 10 23:03:52 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SATLUG SHIRTS STATUS
Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0905102103k65461cf2n69362efd14668eb4@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I apologize to everyone that it has taken so long to get the shirts
ordered.  I got them ordered on Friday and they SHOULD be ready in about 2
or 2 1/2 weeks.  The young lady at the Shirt place will be letting me know
tomorrow when I should be able to pick them up.  I SHOULD have them 3 or 4
days before the computer show.
Please let me know DIRECTLY OFF-LIST what arrangements you want to make.  I
plan to be at the computer show on the 30th so I can arrange to take your
shirt(s) there & deliver them.  (For the 3 of you out of towners, I will get
your shirts sent off as soon as I can get to the post office.)

Those who are unable to make either the computer show or the next meeting
can contact me DIRECTLY.  If you will let me know your approximate work
schedule & what part of town you live in /work in, We can make arrangements
to meet either at lunchtime, one evening after work, or on a weekend.  Just
a reminder, I WORK near Hwy90 & S. Zarzamora, LIVE near SAC and until the
first of July will be spending most of both Tuesday & most Thursday nights
at Blanco Road & Loop 1604.  Let me know how these fit in your schedules &
we'll see what we can do about getting the shirts to you.

Part of the problem gettign the shirts ordered was the fact that our sales
rep apparently quit with no notice & the new people had absolutely no idea
what was going on with our account.

You can see that it's been a rather "interesting" situation.

Jim

ps.  It's been a very long day so if this e-mail seems just a little
disjointed, it's because it is.  LOL.
From skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu  Tue May 12 16:05:27 2009
From: skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu (skolars)
Date: Tue May 12 16:05:32 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSourceFest
Message-ID: <4A09E497.6060505@cis.sac.accd.edu>

Due to construction events the Open Source Fest needs to be slipped back
on the calendar.  The most likely date is sometime near the end of the
summer.  Please let me know what dates just do not work well for you. 
No date will satisfy everyone, but I want to get as many involved as
possible.

Thanks,
Steve

From nathan at gvtc.com  Tue May 12 17:12:28 2009
From: nathan at gvtc.com (Nathan)
Date: Tue May 12 17:12:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSourceFest
Message-ID: <20090512151228.166478BE@resin17.mta.everyone.net>

Steve,

I am out of state June 30 to July 16. Will have my Dad in town July 17 & 18. Have a Train Show Crossroads July 24, 25, 26. Train Show New Braunfels Aug 15. Computer show at Live Oak Aug 29.

Nathan

--- skolars@cis.sac.accd.edu wrote:

From: skolars <skolars@cis.sac.accd.edu>
To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>, X-otic Computer Systems of San Antonio <xcssa@xcssa.org>
Cc:
Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSourceFest
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:05:27 -0500

Due to construction events the Open Source Fest needs to be slipped back
on the calendar. The most likely date is sometime near the end of the
summer. Please let me know what dates just do not work well for you. 
No date will satisfy everyone, but I want to get as many involved as
possible.

Thanks,
Steve

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From hharadon at gmail.com  Tue May 12 17:25:58 2009
From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon)
Date: Tue May 12 17:25:59 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSourceFest
In-Reply-To: <4A09E497.6060505@cis.sac.accd.edu>
References: <4A09E497.6060505@cis.sac.accd.edu>
Message-ID: <e5fa90240905121525o22dc4825v44777e0ae8ef081e@mail.gmail.com>

Steve, I have no current travel plans, but do plan
to make 2 trips during the summer.  I will let you
know.

HH
-- 
Howard Haradon
San Antonio, TX  USA



On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:05 PM, skolars <skolars@cis.sac.accd.edu> wrote:
> Due to construction events the Open Source Fest needs to be slipped back
> on the calendar. ?The most likely date is sometime near the end of the
> summer. ?Please let me know what dates just do not work well for you.
> No date will satisfy everyone, but I want to get as many involved as
> possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
> --
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> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
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From hharadon at gmail.com  Wed May 13 10:29:36 2009
From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon)
Date: Wed May 13 10:29:37 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Thursday - 14MAY Meeting ?
Message-ID: <e5fa90240905130829g75e4857gaead99204b7b9d3d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,  Not sure if anything is planned.  I can bring
in a PC with a 40GB open partition, and we can
go thru some live CDs and make an install or
two ?  Any suggestions as to what?  The new Ubuntu
9 is very interesting.  Maybe play with the Puppy
live CD which has some good uses.

We would need the VGA projector.

Please let me know.


Howard
-- 
Howard Haradon
San Antonio, TX  USA
From president at satlug.org  Wed May 13 10:59:13 2009
From: president at satlug.org (Jim Wells, President)
Date: Wed May 13 10:59:15 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Thursday - 14MAY Meeting ?
In-Reply-To: <e5fa90240905130829g75e4857gaead99204b7b9d3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e5fa90240905130829g75e4857gaead99204b7b9d3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0905130859h7ef7d22rfc4156f9b032319c@mail.gmail.com>

Howard,
Thanks for stepping up and being willing to put together something at
"almost" the last minute.  I'll be at the Stated Meeting of Alzafar Shrine
but if someone would be willing to put on a presentation for the June 10th
meeting, it would be appreciated very much.
Thanks again,
Jim

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Howard Haradon <hharadon@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,  Not sure if anything is planned.  I can bring
> in a PC with a 40GB open partition, and we can
> go thru some live CDs and make an install or
> two ?  Any suggestions as to what?  The new Ubuntu
> 9 is very interesting.  Maybe play with the Puppy
> live CD which has some good uses.
>
> We would need the VGA projector.
>
> Please let me know.
>
>
> Howard
> --
> Howard Haradon
> San Antonio, TX  USA
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
>
From othniel at gmail.com  Wed May 13 11:27:11 2009
From: othniel at gmail.com (Othniel Graichen)
Date: Wed May 13 11:27:14 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSourceFest
In-Reply-To: <4A09E497.6060505@cis.sac.accd.edu>
References: <4A09E497.6060505@cis.sac.accd.edu>
Message-ID: <24b598f60905130927j4fb7f8aexf81fce7ffde35279@mail.gmail.com>

I have a conflict during Aug 13-16, 2009

Othniel

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:05 PM, skolars <skolars@cis.sac.accd.edu> wrote:

> Due to construction events the Open Source Fest needs to be slipped back
> on the calendar.  The most likely date is sometime near the end of the
> summer.  Please let me know what dates just do not work well for you.
> No date will satisfy everyone, but I want to get as many involved as
> possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
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From bkfuth at gmail.com  Wed May 13 13:50:40 2009
From: bkfuth at gmail.com (steve kolars)
Date: Wed May 13 13:50:42 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Thursday - 14MAY Meeting ?
In-Reply-To: <e5fa90240905130829g75e4857gaead99204b7b9d3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e5fa90240905130829g75e4857gaead99204b7b9d3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9b6ae23d0905131150t163f697ax14b95be5d3762aec@mail.gmail.com>

Howard,

Be sure to remind me the day before the meeting so I can have everything
ready.

Steve


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Howard Haradon <hharadon@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,  Not sure if anything is planned.  I can bring
> in a PC with a 40GB open partition, and we can
> go thru some live CDs and make an install or
> two ?  Any suggestions as to what?  The new Ubuntu
> 9 is very interesting.  Maybe play with the Puppy
> live CD which has some good uses.
>
> We would need the VGA projector.
>
> Please let me know.
>
>
> Howard
> --
> Howard Haradon
> San Antonio, TX  USA
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
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From bkfuth at gmail.com  Wed May 13 13:51:45 2009
From: bkfuth at gmail.com (steve kolars)
Date: Wed May 13 13:51:48 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSourceFest
In-Reply-To: <24b598f60905130927j4fb7f8aexf81fce7ffde35279@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A09E497.6060505@cis.sac.accd.edu>
	<24b598f60905130927j4fb7f8aexf81fce7ffde35279@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9b6ae23d0905131151w3c43c884r3ba45fa5889a92b4@mail.gmail.com>

Oh good!  Then that is when we will schedule it!  Ha ha ha...just joking.
Have a good week.

Steve


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Othniel Graichen <othniel@gmail.com>wrote:

> I have a conflict during Aug 13-16, 2009
>
> Othniel
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:05 PM, skolars <skolars@cis.sac.accd.edu> wrote:
>
> > Due to construction events the Open Source Fest needs to be slipped back
> > on the calendar.  The most likely date is sometime near the end of the
> > summer.  Please let me know what dates just do not work well for you.
> > No date will satisfy everyone, but I want to get as many involved as
> > possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
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From tweeks at rackspace.com  Wed May 13 13:53:45 2009
From: tweeks at rackspace.com (Tweeks)
Date: Wed May 13 13:52:08 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] XCSSA Will have intermittent connectivity Sunday Morning
	from 12:01-2am(CT)
Message-ID: <10175_1242240597_n4DInuto011810_200905131353.46477.tweeks@rackspace.com>

They're doing some work on the routers at Rackspace Sunday morning..  So folks 
may or may not be able to get to the XCSSA server (or mail list) between 
these hours.

SATLUG.. you all might want to talk to your Support AM to see if you're 
affected too (I'm pretty sure that you're box is there in our SAT1 data 
center too).  If you are, who ever your SATLUG PoC is should have got an 
email/ticket from Rackspace on this issue.

Cheers,

Tweeks


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From jfw5cpa at gmail.com  Wed May 13 15:24:54 2009
From: jfw5cpa at gmail.com (Jim Wells)
Date: Wed May 13 15:24:56 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Thursday - 14MAY Meeting ?
In-Reply-To: <9b6ae23d0905131150t163f697ax14b95be5d3762aec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e5fa90240905130829g75e4857gaead99204b7b9d3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<9b6ae23d0905131150t163f697ax14b95be5d3762aec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0905131324i310af0afx5f31085242bbdca4@mail.gmail.com>

Steve,
The meeting is tomorrow, the 14th of May.
Jim

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM, steve kolars <bkfuth@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howard,
>
> Be sure to remind me the day before the meeting so I can have everything
> ready.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Howard Haradon <hharadon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,  Not sure if anything is planned.  I can bring
> > in a PC with a 40GB open partition, and we can
> > go thru some live CDs and make an install or
> > two ?  Any suggestions as to what?  The new Ubuntu
> > 9 is very interesting.  Maybe play with the Puppy
> > live CD which has some good uses.
> >
> > We would need the VGA projector.
> >
> > Please let me know.
> >
> >
> > Howard
> > --
> > Howard Haradon
> > San Antonio, TX  USA
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> >
>
>
>
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From bkfuth at gmail.com  Wed May 13 15:29:30 2009
From: bkfuth at gmail.com (steve kolars)
Date: Wed May 13 15:29:33 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Thursday - 14MAY Meeting ?
In-Reply-To: <8c9fbbeb0905131324i310af0afx5f31085242bbdca4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e5fa90240905130829g75e4857gaead99204b7b9d3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<9b6ae23d0905131150t163f697ax14b95be5d3762aec@mail.gmail.com>
	<8c9fbbeb0905131324i310af0afx5f31085242bbdca4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9b6ae23d0905131329l26aafad9ye551682a7d5edb98@mail.gmail.com>

Duh!  Well, I guess I was reminded the day before the meeting.  We will be
meeting in a different room this time.  Plan to meet in room 104.  It is on
the floor you walk into from the outside.  It is on the west side of the
building.  See you there.

Steve


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Jim Wells <jfw5cpa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve,
> The meeting is tomorrow, the 14th of May.
> Jim
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM, steve kolars <bkfuth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Howard,
> >
> > Be sure to remind me the day before the meeting so I can have everything
> > ready.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Howard Haradon <hharadon@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,  Not sure if anything is planned.  I can bring
> > > in a PC with a 40GB open partition, and we can
> > > go thru some live CDs and make an install or
> > > two ?  Any suggestions as to what?  The new Ubuntu
> > > 9 is very interesting.  Maybe play with the Puppy
> > > live CD which has some good uses.
> > >
> > > We would need the VGA projector.
> > >
> > > Please let me know.
> > >
> > >
> > > Howard
> > > --
> > > Howard Haradon
> > > San Antonio, TX  USA
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
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> > >
> >
> >
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From zakasauraus at gmail.com  Wed May 13 16:54:54 2009
From: zakasauraus at gmail.com (Zak Johnson)
Date: Wed May 13 16:59:26 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
Message-ID: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>

List - 

      I am moving to the area soon and am currently looking for a home in
the northwest area of San Antonio. I am leaving behind a 15Mb fiber
connection which I will dearly miss and hope to find a suitable replacement
for. I understand that Time Warner and AT&T are popular services but I would
like to hear your recommendations. Your help is appreciated.

 

Zak Johnson

 

From cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com  Wed May 13 17:06:52 2009
From: cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com (Charles Hogan)
Date: Wed May 13 17:14:25 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
Message-ID: <4A0B447C.2040702@futuretechsolutions.com>

I've had Grande for years and have been quite happy with their service.

Zak Johnson wrote:
> List - 
> 
>       I am moving to the area soon and am currently looking for a home in
> the northwest area of San Antonio. I am leaving behind a 15Mb fiber
> connection which I will dearly miss and hope to find a suitable replacement
> for. I understand that Time Warner and AT&T are popular services but I would
> like to hear your recommendations. Your help is appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Zak Johnson
> 
>  
> 
From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Wed May 13 19:14:19 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Wed May 13 19:14:29 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
Message-ID: <4A0B625B.9000902@gmail.com>

Zak Johnson wrote:
> List - 
> 
>       I am moving to the area soon and am currently looking for a home in
> the northwest area of San Antonio. I am leaving behind a 15Mb fiber
> connection which I will dearly miss and hope to find a suitable replacement
> for. I understand that Time Warner and AT&T are popular services but I would
> like to hear your recommendations. Your help is appreciated.

I had AT&T DSL for years, but they couldn't get me the speed I wanted,  They 
could only do about 1.2M to my house.  I changed to Time Warner and no get about 
13M.

   -- Bruce
From michael at michaelrice.org  Wed May 13 19:39:02 2009
From: michael at michaelrice.org (michael)
Date: Wed May 13 19:39:23 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
Message-ID: <4A0B6826.6010102@grandecom.net>

I have been a Grande customer since they were clear source. I love them, 
and they do have a 12/1 line which is very fast

Zak Johnson wrote:
> List - 
>
>       I am moving to the area soon and am currently looking for a home in
> the northwest area of San Antonio. I am leaving behind a 15Mb fiber
> connection which I will dearly miss and hope to find a suitable replacement
> for. I understand that Time Warner and AT&T are popular services but I would
> like to hear your recommendations. Your help is appreciated.
>
>  
>
> Zak Johnson
>
>  
>
>   
From j at jvpappas.net  Thu May 14 09:32:00 2009
From: j at jvpappas.net (John Pappas)
Date: Thu May 14 09:32:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
Message-ID: <4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW I have TW RR Turbo, and they upgraded me to 2M/15M (from 1/10), service
is reasonable (for a best effort service), price is good ($56.75 w/o
bundling.)

Real world, I average 1.75Mb up and ~12Mb down.
jp

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 16:54, Zak Johnson <zakasauraus@gmail.com> wrote:

> List -
>
>      I am moving to the area soon and am currently looking for a home in
> the northwest area of San Antonio. I am leaving behind a 15Mb fiber
> connection which I will dearly miss and hope to find a suitable replacement
> for. I understand that Time Warner and AT&T are popular services but I
> would
> like to hear your recommendations. Your help is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Zak Johnson
>
>
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
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From hharadon at gmail.com  Thu May 14 10:10:16 2009
From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon)
Date: Thu May 14 10:10:18 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
	<4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e5fa90240905140810t4983621p6c6010b705a4777@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I am on the NW of San Antonio and use AT&T DSL. It is $30
per month for what they claim is 3Mbps downloading.  I almost always get
2.4Mbps - it never seems to be any more.  Your best information
may come from dslreports.com where they have a database of
actual user data that can be searched by provider and city.

Welcome to San Antonio where the winters are mild and prices
are low.

Howard
-- 
Howard Haradon
San Antonio, TX  USA



On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:32 AM, John Pappas <j@jvpappas.net> wrote:
> FWIW I have TW RR Turbo, and they upgraded me to 2M/15M (from 1/10), service
> is reasonable (for a best effort service), price is good ($56.75 w/o
> bundling.)
>
> Real world, I average 1.75Mb up and ~12Mb down.
> jp
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 16:54, Zak Johnson <zakasauraus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> List -
>>
>> ? ? ?I am moving to the area soon and am currently looking for a home in
>> the northwest area of San Antonio. I am leaving behind a 15Mb fiber
>> connection which I will dearly miss and hope to find a suitable replacement
>> for. I understand that Time Warner and AT&T are popular services but I
>> would
>> like to hear your recommendations. Your help is appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Zak Johnson
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> _______________________________________________
>> SATLUG mailing list
>> SATLUG@satlug.org
>> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
>> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
>>
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From lgj at usenix.org  Thu May 14 15:25:16 2009
From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel Garth Jones)
Date: Thu May 14 15:25:19 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] USENIX 2009 Annual Technical Conference - Top 5 Reasons to
	Attend
Message-ID: <08F6BD49-C096-4B30-B96C-BD92413357B0@usenix.org>

USENIX '09 offers a cost-effective, one-stop shop for the latest in IT
training, breakthroughs, and systems research. Check out the top 5
reasons to join us in San Diego, CA, June 14-19, 2009:

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-- Solaris: Debugging, administration, and DTrace taught by James Mauro,
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Phil Cox, Wenjin Hu, Zach Shepherd, and Dan Anderson

-- Plus classes on cloud computing by Milind Bhandarkar, system
administration by David N. Blank-Edelman, and more

To view the entire training program, see
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2. Invited Talks that feature luminaries in computing discussing timely
and important topics, such as:

-- Keynote Address, "Where Does the Power Go in High-Scale Data
Centers?" by James Hamilton, VP & Distinguished Engineer, Amazon Web
Services

-- Closing Plenary Session by David Brin, Hugo Award-winning author, on
"Third Millennium Problem-Solving: Can New Visualization and
Collaboration Tools Make a Difference?"

-- Diomidis Spinellis, Athens University of Economics and Business, on
"The Antikythera Mechanism: Hacking with Gears"

-- And more!
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3. You'll see it here first:

-- The latest developments in cutting-edge systems research in the
Refereed Papers track:
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-- An introduction to interesting new and ongoing work at the Poster
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4. The chance to mingle with industry leaders and hiring managers:

-- Evening events such as the Birds-of-a-Feather (BoF) sessions offer
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Early Bird Registration Deadline: June 1, 2009
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Thu May 14 18:58:20 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Thu May 14 18:58:23 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
In-Reply-To: <485023.57719.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <485023.57719.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242345500.5496.8.camel@redpill-laptop>


> There is no doubt the biquad is a more exotic solution than what I tried a couple of years ago.  Just a piece of coax with the correct impedance, I don't remember what impedance now of course, and a connector from altex for the wifi card. and an 11 ounce coffee can.  The included link has a calculator for the location of the hole you need to drill or gouge out. I kept it simple by trimming back the center conductor insulation to the right length.  If I recall about 1.2 inches.  And then soldered the shield directly to the can.  Here in Corpus my closest access point was about a half mile, and with obstrutions, but I could connect.  Of course the biquad is much cooler!
> http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html 

sorry for the long reply I have been so wrapped up trying to get my gps
win sync with kismet, gpsdrive and google earth that I havent bothered
to check my email.  

Success though milestone two is passed an I will conducting a passive
scan of the downtown area.  hopefully I will have a nice kml file to
open up with google earth.

As for the antenna I will first build a couple of cantennas out of
pringles cans in the next couple of days before I try out the bi-quad.
Personally I think the bi-quad would look pretty cool on my roof.

as for the range of my war-driving antenna that I hacked to my lappy I
am picking up packets from about 4 to 5 blocks away.

by the way anyone have any info on on a series of ap called
SA_Public_wifi?

Todd

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Thu May 14 19:16:19 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Thu May 14 19:16:22 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <e5fa90240905140810t4983621p6c6010b705a4777@mail.gmail.com>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
	<4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<e5fa90240905140810t4983621p6c6010b705a4777@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242346579.5496.18.camel@redpill-laptop>

I have to throw my lot in with Grande.  Great customer service and
1mbit/sec service $40 a month.

Todd

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Thu May 14 19:19:03 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Thu May 14 19:19:05 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <1242346579.5496.18.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
	<4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<e5fa90240905140810t4983621p6c6010b705a4777@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242346579.5496.18.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <1242346743.5496.21.camel@redpill-laptop>

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:16 -0500, Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> I have to throw my lot in with Grande.  Great customer service and
> 1mbit/sec service $40 a month.
> 
> Todd
> 

also remember its Time Warner that just tried to screw everyone with the
cap'em & screw'em test project.  I say make them pay and send your
business elsewhere.

Todd

From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Thu May 14 19:32:45 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Thu May 14 19:32:48 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <1242346743.5496.21.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>	<4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com>	<e5fa90240905140810t4983621p6c6010b705a4777@mail.gmail.com>	<1242346579.5496.18.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<1242346743.5496.21.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <4A0CB82D.7020604@gmail.com>

Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:16 -0500, Todd W. Bucy wrote:
>> I have to throw my lot in with Grande.  Great customer service and
>> 1mbit/sec service $40 a month.
>>
>> Todd
>>
> 
> also remember its Time Warner that just tried to screw everyone with the
> cap'em & screw'em test project.  I say make them pay and send your
> business elsewhere.

That's a little harsh.  They sent up a trial balloon and it was shot down.  At 
least they listened.  I have no experience with Grande, but TW seems OK to me, 
but my demands are slim.  I only want them to route my packets and I do use 
their outgoing mail server.  Otherwise, I don't use/need anything else from them.

   -- Bruce
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Thu May 14 20:01:47 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Thu May 14 20:01:49 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <4A0CB82D.7020604@gmail.com>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
	<4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<e5fa90240905140810t4983621p6c6010b705a4777@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242346579.5496.18.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<1242346743.5496.21.camel@redpill-laptop> <4A0CB82D.7020604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242349307.5496.51.camel@redpill-laptop>

this may be true...but dont doubt for a minute that they wont try again.

Todd
> That's a little harsh.  They sent up a trial balloon and it was shot down.  At 
> least they listened.  I have no experience with Grande, but TW seems OK to me, 
> but my demands are slim.  I only want them to route my packets and I do use 
> their outgoing mail server.  Otherwise, I don't use/need anything else from them.
> 
>    -- Bruce

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Thu May 14 21:54:09 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Thu May 14 21:54:11 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] War-Drive Results
Message-ID: <1242356049.7515.3.camel@redpill-laptop>

if anyones interested I just completed a short run of the downtown area
and have come up with a whole bunch of interesting AP's.  If interested
email me off0list and I can send you a kml file that you can open up
with google earth.  I also have the data in csv if desired.

enjoy
Todd

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Thu May 14 22:50:12 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Thu May 14 22:50:15 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] War-Drive Results
In-Reply-To: <1242356049.7515.3.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <1242356049.7515.3.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <1242359412.4877.6.camel@redpill-laptop>

just ran across this link.  they will take the .cvs file from kismet and
put it on the 2d google-maps for those of you who dont have the
horsepower for google earth.

http://www.byteme.org.uk/wireless-fun/kismet.html

Todd

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:54 -0500, Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> if anyones interested I just completed a short run of the downtown area
> and have come up with a whole bunch of interesting AP's.  If interested
> email me off0list and I can send you a kml file that you can open up
> with google earth.  I also have the data in csv if desired.
> 
> enjoy
> Todd
> 

From wigyxz-satlug at yahoo.com  Thu May 14 23:11:57 2009
From: wigyxz-satlug at yahoo.com (wigyxz-satlug@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu May 14 23:12:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
Message-ID: <411605.55441.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


We use grande and I've been pretty happy with the support and service.
we're bundling phone, cable and one of their slower-broadband internet
speeds.

One thing I'd criticize is that I found that I couldn't use their
mail server to read incoming mail. They seem to have some fairly
aggressive spam filtering that would reject email from senders 
that had mis-configured DNS (probably reverse lookups weren't
configured right). We just had too many people unable to mail
us at grandecom.net. Not really a big a deal though. I've since
shifted to web-based email so that I don't tie myself to one ISP
anyway...

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:

> From: Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 7:16 PM
> I have to throw my lot in with
> Grande.? Great customer service and
> 1mbit/sec service $40 a month.
> 
> Todd
> 
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> unsubscribe
> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> 
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Thu May 14 23:16:41 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Thu May 14 23:16:44 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <411605.55441.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <411605.55441.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1242361001.4877.9.camel@redpill-laptop>

I have never had a prob with their  e-mail (unless the bill was late)
and I personally appreciate their aggressive spam filtering.  that said
their webmail interface leaves a lot to be desired.  Only thing worse
was UTSA's old email system (not that the new on is that much better).

Todd

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 21:11 -0700, wigyxz-satlug@yahoo.com wrote:
> We use grande and I've been pretty happy with the support and service.
> we're bundling phone, cable and one of their slower-broadband internet
> speeds.
> 
> One thing I'd criticize is that I found that I couldn't use their
> mail server to read incoming mail. They seem to have some fairly
> aggressive spam filtering that would reject email from senders 
> that had mis-configured DNS (probably reverse lookups weren't
> configured right). We just had too many people unable to mail
> us at grandecom.net. Not really a big a deal though. I've since
> shifted to web-based email so that I don't tie myself to one ISP
> anyway...
> 
> --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net>
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
> > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> > Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 7:16 PM
> > I have to throw my lot in with
> > Grande.  Great customer service and
> > 1mbit/sec service $40 a month.
> > 
> > Todd
> > 
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > 

From christopher.lemire at gmail.com  Fri May 15 00:14:48 2009
From: christopher.lemire at gmail.com (christopher.lemire@gmail.com)
Date: Fri May 15 00:14:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] War-Drive Results
Message-ID: <1240967926-1242364461-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1565156467-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Cool, have you tried using a cantenna with your wifi? I plan to build myself one. 
------Original Message------
From: Todd W. Bucy
Sender: satlug-bounces@satlug.org
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
ReplyTo: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
Subject: [SATLUG] War-Drive Results
Sent: May 14, 2009 9:54 PM

if anyones interested I just completed a short run of the downtown area
and have come up with a whole bunch of interesting AP's.  If interested
email me off0list and I can send you a kml file that you can open up
with google earth.  I also have the data in csv if desired.

enjoy
Todd

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From christopher.lemire at gmail.com  Fri May 15 00:19:09 2009
From: christopher.lemire at gmail.com (christopher.lemire@gmail.com)
Date: Fri May 15 00:18:45 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] War-Drive Results
Message-ID: <517655981-1242364718-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-276337871-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I'm interested in the file that opens in google earth. You should check out the guides/how tos at remote exploit forums. They really are meant for backtrack linux users. But becareful what you do with that info not to get yourself into trouble. 
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From satlug at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 15 00:35:45 2009
From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright)
Date: Fri May 15 00:35:48 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <1242349307.5496.51.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com>
	<4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<e5fa90240905140810t4983621p6c6010b705a4777@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242346579.5496.18.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<1242346743.5496.21.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<4A0CB82D.7020604@gmail.com>
	<1242349307.5496.51.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <0avp05l8cll0e4f7s1ubum9eq5rm0lk3fj@4ax.com>

People should also note that AT&T has an "excess usage" fee in their
latest user agreements, but never bothers to define excess usage or
specify the amount of the fee.  --Don

Todd W. Bucy wrote:
>this may be true...but dont doubt for a minute that they wont try again.
>Todd

>> That's a little harsh.  They sent up a trial balloon and it was shot down.  At 
>> least they listened.  I have no experience with Grande, but TW seems OK to me, 
>> but my demands are slim.  I only want them to route my packets and I do use 
>> their outgoing mail server.  Otherwise, I don't use/need anything else from them.
>> 
>>    -- Bruce

-- 
We're headed for a Quantum Collapse!
From christopher.lemire at gmail.com  Fri May 15 00:40:03 2009
From: christopher.lemire at gmail.com (christopher.lemire@gmail.com)
Date: Fri May 15 00:39:38 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <0avp05l8cll0e4f7s1ubum9eq5rm0lk3fj@4ax.com>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com><4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com><e5fa90240905140810t4983621p6c6010b705a4777@mail.gmail.com><1242346579.5496.18.camel@redpill-laptop><1242346743.5496.21.camel@redpill-laptop><4A0CB82D.7020604@gmail.com><1242349307.5496.51.camel@redpill-laptop><0avp05l8cll0e4f7s1ubum9eq5rm0lk3fj@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <474097702-1242365972-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-703061290-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I imagine people who do a lot of torrents run up a big bill with at&t. 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wright <satlug@sbcglobal.net>

Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:35:45 
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List<satlug@satlug.org>
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations


People should also note that AT&T has an "excess usage" fee in their
latest user agreements, but never bothers to define excess usage or
specify the amount of the fee.  --Don

Todd W. Bucy wrote:
>this may be true...but dont doubt for a minute that they wont try again.
>Todd

>> That's a little harsh.  They sent up a trial balloon and it was shot down.  At 
>> least they listened.  I have no experience with Grande, but TW seems OK to me, 
>> but my demands are slim.  I only want them to route my packets and I do use 
>> their outgoing mail server.  Otherwise, I don't use/need anything else from them.
>> 
>>    -- Bruce

-- 
We're headed for a Quantum Collapse!
--
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From geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu  Fri May 15 01:48:33 2009
From: geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu (Geoff)
Date: Fri May 15 01:48:33 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] War-Drive Results
In-Reply-To: <1240967926-1242364461-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1565156467-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <1240967926-1242364461-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1565156467-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4A0D1041.7080208@w5omr.shacknet.nu>


Before anyone gets confused, a 'Cantenna', is the name of a dummy-load
that was built by Heathkit, years ago.

A Dummy-load, is a device that contains the operational characteristics
of an antenna, but doesn't radiate anywhere.  The 'load' is a 25watt, 50
ohm, non-inductive resistor connected to some simple circuitry and sunk
in a gallon of transformer oil in the size of a paint-can.

A homemade pringles can antenna, in my opinion, shouldn't be called a
'Cantenna', less it be confused with a dummy-load.

-Geoff
(Too many Hams on here to let that go by un-noticed)


From wn5pmr at gmail.com  Fri May 15 07:24:45 2009
From: wn5pmr at gmail.com (mike)
Date: Fri May 15 07:25:14 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] War-Drive Results
In-Reply-To: <4A0D1041.7080208@w5omr.shacknet.nu>
References: <1240967926-1242364461-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1565156467-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<4A0D1041.7080208@w5omr.shacknet.nu>
Message-ID: <4A0D5F0D.3070706@gmail.com>

Geoff wrote:
> Before anyone gets confused, a 'Cantenna', is the name of a dummy-load
> that was built by Heathkit, years ago.
>
> A Dummy-load, is a device that contains the operational characteristics
> of an antenna, but doesn't radiate anywhere.  The 'load' is a 25watt, 50
> ohm, non-inductive resistor connected to some simple circuitry and sunk
> in a gallon of transformer oil in the size of a paint-can.
>
> A homemade pringles can antenna, in my opinion, shouldn't be called a
> 'Cantenna', less it be confused with a dummy-load.
>
> -Geoff
> (Too many Hams on here to let that go by un-noticed)
>
>
>   
Bad Mikey, been a ham for 43 years and that one slipped right by me.


From satlugacct at jchampion.com  Fri May 15 09:34:37 2009
From: satlugacct at jchampion.com (John Champion)
Date: Fri May 15 09:34:41 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
In-Reply-To: <1242345500.5496.8.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <485023.57719.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1242345500.5496.8.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <1cb556d10905150734i1e738a01s66244546c8f5b78@mail.gmail.com>

I used to have a contact for SA Public Wifi. I got him to boost his signal
at one point so that it would reach me at my office from Alamo Plaza. They
charge, I think, $20/month for access.

At my desktop, I can pickup about 16-20 wifi points but only a handful are
open.

Thanks,
john

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net>wrote:

>
> > There is no doubt the biquad is a more exotic solution than what I tried
> a couple of years ago.  Just a piece of coax with the correct impedance, I
> don't remember what impedance now of course, and a connector from altex for
> the wifi card. and an 11 ounce coffee can.  The included link has a
> calculator for the location of the hole you need to drill or gouge out. I
> kept it simple by trimming back the center conductor insulation to the right
> length.  If I recall about 1.2 inches.  And then soldered the shield
> directly to the can.  Here in Corpus my closest access point was about a
> half mile, and with obstrutions, but I could connect.  Of course the biquad
> is much cooler!
> > http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html
>
> sorry for the long reply I have been so wrapped up trying to get my gps
> win sync with kismet, gpsdrive and google earth that I havent bothered
> to check my email.
>
> Success though milestone two is passed an I will conducting a passive
> scan of the downtown area.  hopefully I will have a nice kml file to
> open up with google earth.
>
> As for the antenna I will first build a couple of cantennas out of
> pringles cans in the next couple of days before I try out the bi-quad.
> Personally I think the bi-quad would look pretty cool on my roof.
>
> as for the range of my war-driving antenna that I hacked to my lappy I
> am picking up packets from about 4 to 5 blocks away.
>
> by the way anyone have any info on on a series of ap called
> SA_Public_wifi?
>
> Todd
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
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>
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Fri May 15 09:52:21 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Fri May 15 09:52:24 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
In-Reply-To: <1cb556d10905150734i1e738a01s66244546c8f5b78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <485023.57719.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1242345500.5496.8.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<1cb556d10905150734i1e738a01s66244546c8f5b78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242399141.4877.23.camel@redpill-laptop>

if its a pay service why then are all the SA Public WiFi open? or are
they a hot spot provider?

same question goes for the set of ap's with ssid's of Public Access
Wifi.

Todd

From scs at worldlinkisp.com  Fri May 15 11:49:21 2009
From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com)
Date: Fri May 15 11:49:26 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
Message-ID: <da62642fb2724348936e2fa4776e9d80.scs@worldlinkisp.com>

Are there any ISP's in Boerne, TX  (inside the city limits) 
"other than" Guadalup Valley Telephone Company?

Am helping a friend move to Boerne next week and they need
economical and reliable residential provider ( 1.5Mbs ~ 3.0Mbs ).

TIA    Lou 


From jdchoate at gmail.com  Fri May 15 13:31:41 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Fri May 15 13:31:46 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SAMBA
In-Reply-To: <4A0D96DD.6060709@comcast.net>
References: <4A0D96DD.6060709@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <200905151331.42007.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Friday 15 May 2009 11:22:53 Ian L. Target wrote:
> I would like to copy all of the files from a shared directory on a
> friend's laptop to my Mint box.  His computer:  running XP, named
> LAVERNE, assigned to workgroup CADILLAC.  The directory I want to copy
> is C:\data\temp.  It is marked as shared.  It is plugged into a WGR614v9
> router. 
> 
> On my computer in Konqueror I type smb://CADILLAC/ and I see my
> computer, Mint, and his computer Laverne.  When click on Laverne, it
> times out after about 1 minute. 
> 
> I looked over my smb.conf file.  It might as well be written in Greek. 
> The only line in the file I really understand is:
> 
> # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of
> workgroup = CADILLAC
> 
> 
> Many (most) of the stuff is commented out.  I felt there was no need to
> uncomment them if I wasn't familiar with what their purpose was. 
> 
> Is their anything obvious I am missing?  Would it help to post the
> entire smb.conf file?
> 
> Ian

Try to install and run smb4k. It has an easy to use interface and I have never had to mess with SAMBA config files. It will list the workgroups and their workstations... you provide the login and the directories will become available. Click on the shared directory you want and mount it. You can then open konqueror to that mounted directory and move files as you please.
From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Fri May 15 13:46:59 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Fri May 15 13:47:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
Message-ID: <162731.31054.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I don't think so, I've been trying for ages to get rid of them w/o success.

best regards,
esv.


--------------------------------------

Support the troops, bring them home.

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924


--- On Fri, 5/15/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com> wrote:

> From: scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> To: satlug@satlug.org
> Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 12:49 PM
> Are there any ISP's in Boerne,
> TX  (inside the city limits) 
> "other than" Guadalup Valley Telephone Company?
> 
> Am helping a friend move to Boerne next week and they need
> economical and reliable residential provider ( 1.5Mbs ~
> 3.0Mbs ).
> 
> TIA    Lou 
> 
> 
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From pjcrux at gmail.com  Fri May 15 13:50:58 2009
From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter Cross)
Date: Fri May 15 13:51:00 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
In-Reply-To: <162731.31054.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <162731.31054.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7c63fb3d0905151150q2f641604ge69c2273a6dcef3d@mail.gmail.com>

Tell you what... We'll trade. You can take crime warner and I'll take
GVTC...

At least GVTC is local!

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Enrique Sanchez Vela <
esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I don't think so, I've been trying for ages to get rid of them w/o success.
>
> best regards,
> esv.
>
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Support the troops, bring them home.
>
>
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
>
>
> --- On Fri, 5/15/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com> wrote:
>
> > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 12:49 PM
> > Are there any ISP's in Boerne,
> > TX  (inside the city limits)
> > "other than" Guadalup Valley Telephone Company?
> >
> > Am helping a friend move to Boerne next week and they need
> > economical and reliable residential provider ( 1.5Mbs ~
> > 3.0Mbs ).
> >
> > TIA    Lou
> >
> >
> > --
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> > SATLUG@satlug.org
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> > unsubscribe
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Cheers!

Peter J. Cross
San Antonio, TX

"Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions"
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Please consider the environment before printing this email
From dinger at dingernet.com  Fri May 15 13:53:00 2009
From: dinger at dingernet.com (dinger@dingernet.com)
Date: Fri May 15 13:53:05 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
In-Reply-To: <1242399141.4877.23.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <485023.57719.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1242345500.5496.8.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<1cb556d10905150734i1e738a01s66244546c8f5b78@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242399141.4877.23.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <6f13789ec362fc9bc301cf185f8b4b29.squirrel@webmail.dingernet.com>

Yes, both are hot spots.  I used to use Public Access WiFi.  They also
charge about $20 / month if I remember correctly.  I could pick up a
couple of AP's most of the time, but there were times (usually only when I
really needed it) when the signal strength was too low to connect to any
of them.  I stick to wires now.

~Jared

> if its a pay service why then are all the SA Public WiFi open? or are
> they a hot spot provider?
>
> same question goes for the set of ap's with ssid's of Public Access
> Wifi.
>
> Todd
>
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From matthewalan77 at gmail.com  Fri May 15 14:59:36 2009
From: matthewalan77 at gmail.com (Matt Graham)
Date: Fri May 15 14:59:59 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d0905151150q2f641604ge69c2273a6dcef3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <162731.31054.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7c63fb3d0905151150q2f641604ge69c2273a6dcef3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a3da29ef0905151259v1e15e9d4s78c154522f92d92f@mail.gmail.com>

Some areas of Boerne have TWC RR or Verizon FIOS.  Depends on the
Neighborhood.  I have GVTC and have been very pleased with my 8Mbps
connection.

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Peter Cross <pjcrux@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tell you what... We'll trade. You can take crime warner and I'll take
> GVTC...
>
> At least GVTC is local!
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Enrique Sanchez Vela <
> esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't think so, I've been trying for ages to get rid of them w/o
> success.
> >
> > best regards,
> > esv.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> >
> > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> >
> >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > > Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 12:49 PM
> > > Are there any ISP's in Boerne,
> > > TX  (inside the city limits)
> > > "other than" Guadalup Valley Telephone Company?
> > >
> > > Am helping a friend move to Boerne next week and they need
> > > economical and reliable residential provider ( 1.5Mbs ~
> > > 3.0Mbs ).
> > >
> > > TIA    Lou
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > unsubscribe
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!
>
> Peter J. Cross
> San Antonio, TX
>
> "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions"
> -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this email
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From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Fri May 15 15:23:03 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Fri May 15 15:23:06 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
In-Reply-To: <6f13789ec362fc9bc301cf185f8b4b29.squirrel@webmail.dingernet.com>
References: <485023.57719.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1242345500.5496.8.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<1cb556d10905150734i1e738a01s66244546c8f5b78@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242399141.4877.23.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<6f13789ec362fc9bc301cf185f8b4b29.squirrel@webmail.dingernet.com>
Message-ID: <1242418983.14413.7.camel@redpill-laptop>

Ok then thats not the AP I'm looking for.  about 6 months ago I was
downtown at a sandwich shop across from the courthouse and picked up an
AP that appeared to be run by the city. I am very interested in finding
this AP.  I plan on doing a more intensive run Sunday night.  Maybe I
will find it then.  If not I will have to do the run during business
hours.  not my idea of fun, driving around downtown during the day :-(

Todd

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 11:53 -0700, dinger@dingernet.com wrote:
> Yes, both are hot spots.  I used to use Public Access WiFi.  They also
> charge about $20 / month if I remember correctly.  I could pick up a
> couple of AP's most of the time, but there were times (usually only when I
> really needed it) when the signal strength was too low to connect to any
> of them.  I stick to wires now.
> 
> ~Jared
> 
> > if its a pay service why then are all the SA Public WiFi open? or are
> > they a hot spot provider?
> >
> > same question goes for the set of ap's with ssid's of Public Access
> > Wifi.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> >
> 
> 

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Fri May 15 15:27:40 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Fri May 15 15:27:43 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SAMBA
In-Reply-To: <200905151331.42007.jdchoate@gmail.com>
References: <4A0D96DD.6060709@comcast.net>
	<200905151331.42007.jdchoate@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242419260.14413.11.camel@redpill-laptop>

I have been having similar problems with samba lately.  for instance
when I do a scan of for samba servers on my lappy (using smb4k) i get
nothing.  I have checked the samba.conf file on the server I am trying
to access and all shares are browsable.  that said I can still connect
to the share that I need to by manually mounting the share in the cli
but as noted before it is still not visible within smb4k or for that
matter pyneighborhood.

any advice would be welcome.

Todd

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 13:31 -0500, John D Choate wrote:
> On Friday 15 May 2009 11:22:53 Ian L. Target wrote:
> > I would like to copy all of the files from a shared directory on a
> > friend's laptop to my Mint box.  His computer:  running XP, named
> > LAVERNE, assigned to workgroup CADILLAC.  The directory I want to copy
> > is C:\data\temp.  It is marked as shared.  It is plugged into a WGR614v9
> > router. 
> > 
> > On my computer in Konqueror I type smb://CADILLAC/ and I see my
> > computer, Mint, and his computer Laverne.  When click on Laverne, it
> > times out after about 1 minute. 
> > 
> > I looked over my smb.conf file.  It might as well be written in Greek. 
> > The only line in the file I really understand is:
> > 
> > # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of
> > workgroup = CADILLAC
> > 
> > 
> > Many (most) of the stuff is commented out.  I felt there was no need to
> > uncomment them if I wasn't familiar with what their purpose was. 
> > 
> > Is their anything obvious I am missing?  Would it help to post the
> > entire smb.conf file?
> > 
> > Ian
> 
> Try to install and run smb4k. It has an easy to use interface and I have never had to mess with SAMBA config files. It will list the workgroups and their workstations... you provide the login and the directories will become available. Click on the shared directory you want and mount it. You can then open konqueror to that mounted directory and move files as you please.

From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Fri May 15 15:55:38 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Fri May 15 15:55:42 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
In-Reply-To: <a3da29ef0905151259v1e15e9d4s78c154522f92d92f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <162731.31054.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7c63fb3d0905151150q2f641604ge69c2273a6dcef3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<a3da29ef0905151259v1e15e9d4s78c154522f92d92f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <419546.21533.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I have GVTC and its supposed FIOS or SLOWs, I would much rather have access via cable than paying 16.xx + tax and surcharges for the phone line I don't need/want.

 --------------------------------------


Support the troops, bring them home.http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924




----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Graham <matthewalan77@gmail.com>
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 3:59:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's

Some areas of Boerne have TWC RR or Verizon FIOS.  Depends on the
Neighborhood.  I have GVTC and have been very pleased with my 8Mbps
connection.

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Peter Cross <pjcrux@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tell you what... We'll trade. You can take crime warner and I'll take
> GVTC...
>
> At least GVTC is local!
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Enrique Sanchez Vela <
> esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't think so, I've been trying for ages to get rid of them w/o
> success.
> >
> > best regards,
> > esv.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> >
> > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> >
> >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > > Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 12:49 PM
> > > Are there any ISP's in Boerne,
> > > TX  (inside the city limits)
> > > "other than" Guadalup Valley Telephone Company?
> > >
> > > Am helping a friend move to Boerne next week and they need
> > > economical and reliable residential provider ( 1.5Mbs ~
> > > 3.0Mbs ).
> > >
> > > TIA    Lou
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > unsubscribe
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> >
> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!
>
> Peter J. Cross
> San Antonio, TX
>
> "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions"
> -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this email
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From jdchoate at gmail.com  Sat May 16 12:52:18 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Sat May 16 12:52:25 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SAMBA
In-Reply-To: <4A0EDC28.6010905@comcast.net>
References: <4A0D96DD.6060709@comcast.net>
	<200905151331.42007.jdchoate@gmail.com>
	<4A0EDC28.6010905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <200905161252.18574.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Saturday 16 May 2009 10:30:48 Ian L. Target wrote:
> John D Choate wrote:
> > On Friday 15 May 2009 11:22:53 Ian L. Target wrote:
> >   
> >> I would like to copy all of the files from a shared directory on a
> >> friend's laptop to my Mint box.  His computer:  running XP, named
> >> LAVERNE, assigned to workgroup CADILLAC.  The directory I want to copy
> >> is C:\data\temp.  It is marked as shared.  It is plugged into a WGR614v9
> >> router. 
> >>
> >> On my computer in Konqueror I type smb://CADILLAC/ and I see my
> >> computer, Mint, and his computer Laverne.  When click on Laverne, it
> >> times out after about 1 minute. 
> >>
> >> I looked over my smb.conf file.  It might as well be written in Greek. 
> >> The only line in the file I really understand is:
> >>
> >> # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of
> >> workgroup = CADILLAC
> >>
> >>
> >> Many (most) of the stuff is commented out.  I felt there was no need to
> >> uncomment them if I wasn't familiar with what their purpose was. 
> >>
> >> Is their anything obvious I am missing?  Would it help to post the
> >> entire smb.conf file?
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>     
> >
> > Try to install and run smb4k. It has an easy to use interface and I have never had to mess with SAMBA config files. It will list the workgroups and their workstations... you provide the login and the directories will become available. Click on the shared directory you want and mount it. You can then open konqueror to that mounted directory and move files as you please.
> >   
> I successfully installed SMB4K.  But it displays the same behavior as
> Konqueror.  It will show both computers and the printer that are plugged
> into the router, but it times out if I try and browse his computer.
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> Ian

Did you check your firewall(s) to make sure a port is open for SAMBA? Beyond that, I would uninstall SAMBA and delete its config, then reinstall it again. If it still doesn't work, then I'd start messing with the config again.
From gregswift at gmail.com  Sat May 16 13:57:49 2009
From: gregswift at gmail.com (Greg Swift)
Date: Sat May 16 13:57:55 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
In-Reply-To: <419546.21533.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <162731.31054.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7c63fb3d0905151150q2f641604ge69c2273a6dcef3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<a3da29ef0905151259v1e15e9d4s78c154522f92d92f@mail.gmail.com>
	<419546.21533.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e3f91d70905161157y5acde349ma1bce11c6c4b8151@mail.gmail.com>

I quit there 2 years ago, so they might have expanded a bit more than I am
stating here.  GVTC provides cable modem internet service and FTTH
(Fiber-to-the-home) in some areas.  Businesses along the mainstrip has
access to FTTB (Fiber to the business). FIOS is Verizion's branded FTTH.
(its a name not a technology).   I won't say things were perfect while I was
there but I know that quite a few of us did (and they probably still do) try
and make the product as functional as possible.  I can't vouch for the
management staff (I have my own opinions about their intentions, and thus
part of the reason I'm not there anymore) but the employees and technicians
I knew did try to get the stuph running as well as possible.  Both the FTTH
and the Cable internet have a ~8Mbps service (or thats what it was 2yrs
ago).  The upstream connections to the internet were fairly signifigant
right as I left (I had just ordered a few OC3s) and I've heard rumor that
they are in the process of greatly enhancing that.

If you have a problem with their service, call and complain.  Make some
noise.  You are a member owner, that makes you the shareholder they are
responsible to, unlinke TWC and AT&T where you are just some common
customer.  I can't tell you how many service calls I had to take care of
because the customer was upset, and my job was managing the network and
servers.  They are there to serve their member owners.  Of which I am one.
Heck when I got the mail the other day that they are finally pulling fiber
into my neighborhood I was excited (I moved into a neighborhood that was one
of their last copper installs).

Anyways yeah...

-greg


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 15:55, Enrique Sanchez Vela
<esanchezvela@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
> I have GVTC and its supposed FIOS or SLOWs, I would much rather have access
> via cable than paying 16.xx + tax and surcharges for the phone line I don't
> need/want.
>
>  --------------------------------------
>
>
> Support the troops, bring them home.
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt Graham <matthewalan77@gmail.com>
> To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 3:59:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
>
> Some areas of Boerne have TWC RR or Verizon FIOS.  Depends on the
> Neighborhood.  I have GVTC and have been very pleased with my 8Mbps
> connection.
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Peter Cross <pjcrux@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tell you what... We'll trade. You can take crime warner and I'll take
> > GVTC...
> >
> > At least GVTC is local!
> >
> > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Enrique Sanchez Vela <
> > esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I don't think so, I've been trying for ages to get rid of them w/o
> > success.
> > >
> > > best regards,
> > > esv.
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > > > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > > > Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 12:49 PM
> > > > Are there any ISP's in Boerne,
> > > > TX  (inside the city limits)
> > > > "other than" Guadalup Valley Telephone Company?
> > > >
> > > > Am helping a friend move to Boerne next week and they need
> > > > economical and reliable residential provider ( 1.5Mbs ~
> > > > 3.0Mbs ).
> > > >
> > > > TIA    Lou
> > > >
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From horned0wl93 at gmail.com  Sat May 16 13:59:03 2009
From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed)
Date: Sat May 16 13:59:07 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SAMBA
In-Reply-To: <4A0F0038.7090900@comcast.net>
References: <4A0D96DD.6060709@comcast.net>	<200905151331.42007.jdchoate@gmail.com>	<4A0EDC28.6010905@comcast.net>	<200905161252.18574.jdchoate@gmail.com>
	<4A0F0038.7090900@comcast.net>
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Ian L. Target wrote:
> John D Choate wrote:
>   
>> <snipped>
>>     
>> Did you check your firewall(s) to make sure a port is open for SAMBA? Beyond that, I would uninstall SAMBA and delete its config, then reinstall it again. If it still doesn't work, then I'd start messing with the config again.
>>   
>> I have looked over the smb.conf file again and again.  It seems odd to
>> me that it can actually see the share, but won't let me access it.  I'll
>> keep looking for a while and if no luck, will uninstall and reinstall.
>>     
I've had the same problem in SAMBA whenever I used the /name/ of a 
Windows share (e.g.: smb://cadillac/filesharename), but, I find that if 
I use the /network share's internal IP address/, (e.g.: 
smb://192.168.X.1XX/filesharename) and set it as a bookmark for later 
retrieval, my problem goes away.  This has worked for me in all-SAMBA 
environments, and in mixed SAMBA-Windows environments.  If you contact 
me off-list, I can send you a screenshot of my settings.

Cheers;
Ed

From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com  Sat May 16 17:15:26 2009
From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1)
Date: Sat May 16 17:15:28 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SAMBA
In-Reply-To: <4A0F0CF7.9020804@gmail.com>
References: <4A0D96DD.6060709@comcast.net>
	<200905151331.42007.jdchoate@gmail.com> <4A0EDC28.6010905@comcast.net>
	<200905161252.18574.jdchoate@gmail.com> <4A0F0038.7090900@comcast.net>
	<4A0F0CF7.9020804@gmail.com>
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ok, my .02c and feel free to correct me if I have something wrong, I
just woke up and am not 100% coherent. (it is a weekend after all..)

you're trying to access a windows computer from a linux computer?
- on the windows machine, make sure that c:\data\temp has the
"Everyone" group added, with read-only permissions.
- I don't think you can access it by using smb://CADILLAC, try
smb://LAVERNE instead.  Failing that, you can always do smb://{IP
address here}
- Right click on it and see if you can supply additional credentials,
Try "guest" (providing that guest has an active user account on
LAVERNE)

Here, I have two servers, Zeus and MtOlympus. Zeus is windows XP and
MtOlympus is Ubuntu Linux.  From MtOlympus, I can browse tacobox which
is a 2TB array on Zeus.  My permissions defined for the share are
"Everybody, with Read Only access". and "Guest" account is enabled.

On my network, Zeus and MtOlympus both resolve in DNS, on most home
routers, this is not the case so fall back to IP based navigation
instead.

Good Luck

FIRESTORM_v1


On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:59 PM, ed <horned0wl93@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ian L. Target wrote:
>>
>> John D Choate wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>> ? ?Did you check your firewall(s) to make sure a port is open for SAMBA?
>>> Beyond that, I would uninstall SAMBA and delete its config, then reinstall
>>> it again. If it still doesn't work, then I'd start messing with the config
>>> again.
>>> ?I have looked over the smb.conf file again and again. ?It seems odd to
>>> me that it can actually see the share, but won't let me access it. ?I'll
>>> keep looking for a while and if no luck, will uninstall and reinstall.
>>>
>
> I've had the same problem in SAMBA whenever I used the /name/ of a Windows
> share (e.g.: smb://cadillac/filesharename), but, I find that if I use the
> /network share's internal IP address/, (e.g.:
> smb://192.168.X.1XX/filesharename) and set it as a bookmark for later
> retrieval, my problem goes away. ?This has worked for me in all-SAMBA
> environments, and in mixed SAMBA-Windows environments. ?If you contact me
> off-list, I can send you a screenshot of my settings.
>
> Cheers;
> Ed
>
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From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org  Sat May 16 17:23:03 2009
From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tweeks)
Date: Sat May 16 17:23:13 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] War-Drive Results
In-Reply-To: <4A0D5F0D.3070706@gmail.com>
References: <1240967926-1242364461-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1565156467-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<4A0D1041.7080208@w5omr.shacknet.nu> <4A0D5F0D.3070706@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905161723.03322.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org>

On Friday 15 May 2009 07:24:45 am mike wrote:
> Geoff wrote:
[...]
> > A homemade pringles can antenna, in my opinion, shouldn't be called a
> > 'Cantenna', less it be confused with a dummy-load.
> Bad Mikey, been a ham for 43 years and that one slipped right by me.

I don't think it's a real danger there Geoff.. 
Especially on a LUG mail list. ;)

Tweeks

From rsuberg at satx.rr.com  Sun May 17 00:36:28 2009
From: rsuberg at satx.rr.com (Richard Suberg)
Date: Sat May 16 23:36:57 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SAMBA
In-Reply-To: <4A0F5F34.9030205@comcast.net>
References: <4A0D96DD.6060709@comcast.net>	<200905151331.42007.jdchoate@gmail.com>	<4A0EDC28.6010905@comcast.net>	<200905161252.18574.jdchoate@gmail.com>	<4A0F0038.7090900@comcast.net>	<4A0F0CF7.9020804@gmail.com>	<869de8470905161515u21287d68q90e6910c9e9a3633@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A0F5F34.9030205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANCP0atn2iZLngkpSr38bh7CgAAAEAAAAFmUi+7w4R5CmccBTGXdExIBAAAAAA==@satx.rr.com>

Interesting, though it has been a while, what I had to do to get samba to
recognize win pcs was that the linux box user needed to have an account on
the win box, and the other way was that the win box had to have an account
in samba daemon and/or linux system with the appropriate permissions that
you wanted.

Although I did say that it has been quite a while since I had to set samba
and that setup had been torn down some time ago due to needing the hardware
for another task.

Richard
http://www.kevinspitcrew.com

-----Original Message-----
From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf
Of Ian L. Target
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:50 PM
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] SAMBA

FIRESTORM_v1 wrote:
>> I've had the same problem in SAMBA whenever I used the /name/ of a
Windows
>> share (e.g.: smb://cadillac/filesharename), but, I find that if I use the
>> /network share's internal IP address/, (e.g.:
>> smb://192.168.X.1XX/filesharename) and set it as a bookmark for later
>> retrieval, my problem goes away.  This has worked for me in all-SAMBA
>> environments, and in mixed SAMBA-Windows environments.  If you contact me
>> off-list, I can send you a screenshot of my settings.
>>
>> Cheers;
>> Ed
>>     

The smb://192.168.1.11/ did it!  Thanks!


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From horned0wl93 at gmail.com  Sun May 17 07:26:49 2009
From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed)
Date: Sun May 17 07:26:54 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SAMBA (resolved)
In-Reply-To: <4A0F5F34.9030205@comcast.net>
References: <4A0D96DD.6060709@comcast.net>	<200905151331.42007.jdchoate@gmail.com>	<4A0EDC28.6010905@comcast.net>	<200905161252.18574.jdchoate@gmail.com>	<4A0F0038.7090900@comcast.net>	<4A0F0CF7.9020804@gmail.com>	<869de8470905161515u21287d68q90e6910c9e9a3633@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A0F5F34.9030205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4A100289.8040201@gmail.com>



Ian L. Target wrote:
> FIRESTORM_v1 wrote:
>   
>>> I've had the same problem in SAMBA whenever I used the /name/ of a Windows
>>> share (e.g.: smb://cadillac/filesharename), but, I find that if I use the
>>> /network share's internal IP address/, (e.g.:
>>> smb://192.168.X.1XX/filesharename) and set it as a bookmark for later
>>> retrieval, my problem goes away.  This has worked for me in all-SAMBA
>>> environments, and in mixed SAMBA-Windows environments.  If you contact me
>>> off-list, I can send you a screenshot of my settings.
>>>
>>> Cheers;
>>> Ed
>>>     
>>>       
>
> The smb://192.168.1.11/ did it!  Thanks!
>   
Any time.  Glad I could help.

Cheers;
Ed

>
>   
From jtiner at satx.rr.com  Sun May 17 19:37:13 2009
From: jtiner at satx.rr.com (James Tiner)
Date: Sun May 17 19:37:20 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SAMBA (resolved)
In-Reply-To: <4A100289.8040201@gmail.com>
References: <4A0D96DD.6060709@comcast.net>
	<200905151331.42007.jdchoate@gmail.com>	<4A0EDC28.6010905@comcast.net>
	<200905161252.18574.jdchoate@gmail.com>	<4A0F0038.7090900@comcast.net>
	<4A0F0CF7.9020804@gmail.com>
	<869de8470905161515u21287d68q90e6910c9e9a3633@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A0F5F34.9030205@comcast.net>  <4A100289.8040201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242607033.21297.3.camel@james-desktop>

Just out of curiosity, could you try to add the following to
your /etc/hosts file?


192.168.1.11     cadillac

It's probably that you aren't able to resolve the name and it times out.
if you added DNS or enabled wins support for SAMBA, it would probably
work without doing this but adding that to your hosts file should allow
you to use names again.

On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 07:26 -0500, ed wrote:
> 
> Ian L. Target wrote:
> > FIRESTORM_v1 wrote:
> >   
> >>> I've had the same problem in SAMBA whenever I used the /name/ of a Windows
> >>> share (e.g.: smb://cadillac/filesharename), but, I find that if I use the
> >>> /network share's internal IP address/, (e.g.:
> >>> smb://192.168.X.1XX/filesharename) and set it as a bookmark for later
> >>> retrieval, my problem goes away.  This has worked for me in all-SAMBA
> >>> environments, and in mixed SAMBA-Windows environments.  If you contact me
> >>> off-list, I can send you a screenshot of my settings.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers;
> >>> Ed
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >
> > The smb://192.168.1.11/ did it!  Thanks!
> >   
> Any time.  Glad I could help.
> 
> Cheers;
> Ed
> 
> >
> >   

From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Sun May 17 23:32:00 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Sun May 17 23:32:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
Message-ID: <852824.86090.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



ok, I just ran a couple of speed test to their site and the ones provided by DSLreports.com, on their site they claim I have a 7.5 Mb download speed while the ones provided by dslreports I hardly get beyond 5 Mb, on neither of them could get beyond 800kb of upload stream.

my main quarrel is with  them is the fact I am stuck paying for a phone line I don't want,  I am not a telco specialist but that sounds like BS.

--------------------------------------
Support the troops, bring them home.
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924


--- On Sat, 5/16/09, Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 2:57 PM
> I quit there 2 years ago, so they
> might have expanded a bit more than I am
> stating here.  GVTC provides cable modem internet
> service and FTTH
> (Fiber-to-the-home) in some areas.  Businesses along
> the mainstrip has
> access to FTTB (Fiber to the business). FIOS is Verizion's
> branded FTTH.
> (its a name not a technology).   I won't say
> things were perfect while I was
> there but I know that quite a few of us did (and they
> probably still do) try
> and make the product as functional as possible.  I
> can't vouch for the
> management staff (I have my own opinions about their
> intentions, and thus
> part of the reason I'm not there anymore) but the employees
> and technicians
> I knew did try to get the stuph running as well as
> possible.  Both the FTTH
> and the Cable internet have a ~8Mbps service (or thats what
> it was 2yrs
> ago).  The upstream connections to the internet were
> fairly signifigant
> right as I left (I had just ordered a few OC3s) and I've
> heard rumor that
> they are in the process of greatly enhancing that.
> 
> If you have a problem with their service, call and
> complain.  Make some
> noise.  You are a member owner, that makes you the
> shareholder they are
> responsible to, unlinke TWC and AT&T where you are just
> some common
> customer.  I can't tell you how many service calls I
> had to take care of
> because the customer was upset, and my job was managing the
> network and
> servers.  They are there to serve their member
> owners.  Of which I am one.
> Heck when I got the mail the other day that they are
> finally pulling fiber
> into my neighborhood I was excited (I moved into a
> neighborhood that was one
> of their last copper installs).
> 
> Anyways yeah...
> 
> -greg
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 15:55, Enrique Sanchez Vela
> <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
> >
> > I have GVTC and its supposed FIOS or SLOWs, I would
> much rather have access
> > via cable than paying 16.xx + tax and surcharges for
> the phone line I don't
> > need/want.
> >
> >  --------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Matt Graham <matthewalan77@gmail.com>
> > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
> <satlug@satlug.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 3:59:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> >
> > Some areas of Boerne have TWC RR or Verizon
> FIOS.  Depends on the
> > Neighborhood.  I have GVTC and have been very
> pleased with my 8Mbps
> > connection.
> >
> > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Peter Cross <pjcrux@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Tell you what... We'll trade. You can take crime
> warner and I'll take
> > > GVTC...
> > >
> > > At least GVTC is local!
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Enrique Sanchez
> Vela <
> > > esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't think so, I've been trying for ages
> to get rid of them w/o
> > > success.
> > > >
> > > > best regards,
> > > > esv.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com
> <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com
> <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > > > > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > > > > Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 12:49 PM
> > > > > Are there any ISP's in Boerne,
> > > > > TX  (inside the city limits)
> > > > > "other than" Guadalup Valley Telephone
> Company?
> > > > >
> > > > > Am helping a friend move to Boerne next
> week and they need
> > > > > economical and reliable residential
> provider ( 1.5Mbs ~
> > > > > 3.0Mbs ).
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA    Lou
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > Peter J. Cross
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > > "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of
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From geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu  Mon May 18 20:57:11 2009
From: geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu (Geoff)
Date: Mon May 18 20:57:17 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] War-Drive Results
In-Reply-To: <200905161723.03322.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org>
References: <1240967926-1242364461-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1565156467-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>	<4A0D1041.7080208@w5omr.shacknet.nu>
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	<200905161723.03322.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org>
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Tweeks wrote:
> On Friday 15 May 2009 07:24:45 am mike wrote:
>   
>> Geoff wrote:
>>     
> [...]
>   
>>> A homemade pringles can antenna, in my opinion, shouldn't be called a
>>> 'Cantenna', less it be confused with a dummy-load.
>>>       
>> Bad Mikey, been a ham for 43 years and that one slipped right by me.
>>     
>
> I don't think it's a real danger there Geoff.. 
> Especially on a LUG mail list. ;)
>   

y'know... ya let one slip by, and the next thing ya know, you've got a
whole bunch of confusion.

Best to set things straight up front so as to avoid misnomers (whoever
'she' is ;->)

-Geoff (Baja Spring, TX)

(* to the list admin(s): sorry, but the server at home where I get
SATLUG mail filled up it's harddrive and died a horrible death.  The
resurrection occured about 20 minutes ago.  Sorry if this caused problems.)


From gregswift at gmail.com  Mon May 18 23:58:06 2009
From: gregswift at gmail.com (Greg Swift)
Date: Mon May 18 23:58:09 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
In-Reply-To: <852824.86090.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <852824.86090.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e3f91d70905182158h4496e491p904107814e514883@mail.gmail.com>

Reiterated Disclaimer: I have a telephone line with them (i like being a
member, because it does slightly mean something) and USED to work for them.
If I lived in AT&T's area I wouldnt have a phone (don't like land lines, in
fact even though I pay for mine, it hasn't had dial tone in a while cause
there is a short on it and I haven't felt like taking the time to get it
fixed cause I don't have it to use, I have it to be a member-owner).

All of GVTC's telco services are tariffed (they have to get things approved
from some government committee or some such).  As a rural telco GVTC
receives financial compensation per the Universal Service Fund (USF).
Everyone (including those in big cities) pay towards this fund, and it helps
balance out the high cost of providing service to those in rural areas.  The
way (this may be changing with the whole Universal Internet push) this
currently works is that they only get credit for you as a customer towards
this fund if you have telephone service.  Thus if they provide you internet
service without a telephone line.  Your seriously gripping about having to
pay an extra $18 a month?  With 5Mbps at 29.95/month on a term+ bundle (on
any of the 3 services)?  Thats not really a bad deal. (If you don't like
terms and a bundle when you are already stuck with them and have to pay for
multiple services anyways you are just stubborn IMHO).  I've seen the
numbers (and I can't recall them years later), but if you are in a Fiber
area, its a long time until they even really break even on you, even with
the USF fee.

Based on GVTC's site (
http://gvtc.com/internet/broadband_residential-pricechart.php) if you are on
DSL you get a max 5Mbps.  Cable maxes at 12MB, and If you are FTTH, you can
get 20Mbps.  And if you on a 8Mbps+ plan and aren't pulling 7.5 internal on
their network, call. complain.  But if you can't get more than 5 to
dslreports, *shrug* don't know what to tell you.  The second it leaves their
network there is only so much they can do.  I know for a fact that they have
quite a few decent sized pipes, and more coming. I also won't deny that they
occasionally lag behind on capacity. Getting new circuits on good paths
external to them can be occasionally problematic for various reasons, but
hopefully a project they've been working on for ~2yrs will fix that, and its
not necessarily their fault it takes that long.  Its a special deal that is
requiring other providers to do some big work as well.

-greg
former net/sys admin @ gvtc

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 23:32, Enrique Sanchez Vela
<esanchezvela@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> ok, I just ran a couple of speed test to their site and the ones provided
> by DSLreports.com, on their site they claim I have a 7.5 Mb download speed
> while the ones provided by dslreports I hardly get beyond 5 Mb, on neither
> of them could get beyond 800kb of upload stream.
>
> my main quarrel is with  them is the fact I am stuck paying for a phone
> line I don't want,  I am not a telco specialist but that sounds like BS.
>
> --------------------------------------
> Support the troops, bring them home.
>
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
>
>
> --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org
> >
> > Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 2:57 PM
> > I quit there 2 years ago, so they
> > might have expanded a bit more than I am
> > stating here.  GVTC provides cable modem internet
> > service and FTTH
> > (Fiber-to-the-home) in some areas.  Businesses along
> > the mainstrip has
> > access to FTTB (Fiber to the business). FIOS is Verizion's
> > branded FTTH.
> > (its a name not a technology).   I won't say
> > things were perfect while I was
> > there but I know that quite a few of us did (and they
> > probably still do) try
> > and make the product as functional as possible.  I
> > can't vouch for the
> > management staff (I have my own opinions about their
> > intentions, and thus
> > part of the reason I'm not there anymore) but the employees
> > and technicians
> > I knew did try to get the stuph running as well as
> > possible.  Both the FTTH
> > and the Cable internet have a ~8Mbps service (or thats what
> > it was 2yrs
> > ago).  The upstream connections to the internet were
> > fairly signifigant
> > right as I left (I had just ordered a few OC3s) and I've
> > heard rumor that
> > they are in the process of greatly enhancing that.
> >
> > If you have a problem with their service, call and
> > complain.  Make some
> > noise.  You are a member owner, that makes you the
> > shareholder they are
> > responsible to, unlinke TWC and AT&T where you are just
> > some common
> > customer.  I can't tell you how many service calls I
> > had to take care of
> > because the customer was upset, and my job was managing the
> > network and
> > servers.  They are there to serve their member
> > owners.  Of which I am one.
> > Heck when I got the mail the other day that they are
> > finally pulling fiber
> > into my neighborhood I was excited (I moved into a
> > neighborhood that was one
> > of their last copper installs).
> >
> > Anyways yeah...
> >
> > -greg
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 15:55, Enrique Sanchez Vela
> > <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have GVTC and its supposed FIOS or SLOWs, I would
> > much rather have access
> > > via cable than paying 16.xx + tax and surcharges for
> > the phone line I don't
> > > need/want.
> > >
> > >  --------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Matt Graham <matthewalan77@gmail.com>
> > > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
> > <satlug@satlug.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 3:59:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > >
> > > Some areas of Boerne have TWC RR or Verizon
> > FIOS.  Depends on the
> > > Neighborhood.  I have GVTC and have been very
> > pleased with my 8Mbps
> > > connection.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Peter Cross <pjcrux@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tell you what... We'll trade. You can take crime
> > warner and I'll take
> > > > GVTC...
> > > >
> > > > At least GVTC is local!
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Enrique Sanchez
> > Vela <
> > > > esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think so, I've been trying for ages
> > to get rid of them w/o
> > > > success.
> > > > >
> > > > > best regards,
> > > > > esv.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > > > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > > > > > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > > > > > Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 12:49 PM
> > > > > > Are there any ISP's in Boerne,
> > > > > > TX  (inside the city limits)
> > > > > > "other than" Guadalup Valley Telephone
> > Company?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am helping a friend move to Boerne next
> > week and they need
> > > > > > economical and reliable residential
> > provider ( 1.5Mbs ~
> > > > > > 3.0Mbs ).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA    Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Peter J. Cross
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > > > "Experience has taught mankind the necessity of
> > auxiliary precautions"
> > > > -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51
> > > >
> > > > Please consider the environment before printing
> > this email
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From crynosys at grandecom.net  Tue May 19 00:48:45 2009
From: crynosys at grandecom.net (Chris)
Date: Tue May 19 00:48:47 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] need source for wifi antenna
Message-ID: <4A12483D.80206@grandecom.net>

I'm in need of a source of well made WiFi antenna.

thanks

Chris L.






From christopher.lemire at gmail.com  Tue May 19 01:04:35 2009
From: christopher.lemire at gmail.com (Christopher Lemire)
Date: Tue May 19 01:04:37 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] need source for wifi antenna
In-Reply-To: <4A12483D.80206@grandecom.net>
References: <4A12483D.80206@grandecom.net>
Message-ID: <e4b753d00905182304y174c17e0uf2778d7bf847a9b6@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, that really confused me because I'm a Chris L., and I've been looking
at WiFi antennas lately, and I thought to myself I can't remember sending an
email to satlug about it. Here's what I've been looking at recently to
increase the effectiveness of my usb wifi adapter.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Uni-Directional-WIFI-Range-Extender/

I know people don't like these things being called cantennas, but if you
search instructables for cantenna, you will see about 10 or 15 different
building plans for them. One I thought was interesting is made from an empty
fire extinguisher.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Wireless-Internet-Cantenna/

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Chris <crynosys@grandecom.net> wrote:

> I'm in need of a source of well made WiFi antenna.
>
> thanks
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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-- 
Christopher Lemire <christopher.lemire@gmail.com>
Ubuntu 64 bit Linux Raid Level 0
From mgrooms at satx.rr.com  Tue May 19 05:10:44 2009
From: mgrooms at satx.rr.com (Matt Grooms)
Date: Tue May 19 05:10:46 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] need source for wifi antenna
In-Reply-To: <4A12483D.80206@grandecom.net>
References: <4A12483D.80206@grandecom.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c9d86a$12f7c310$7500000a@burnside.local>

Chris -

Try these guys.

http://www.wlanparts.com/

Matt G.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:49 AM
> To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
> Subject: [SATLUG] need source for wifi antenna
>
> I'm in need of a source of well made WiFi antenna.
>
> thanks
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From dkowis at shlrm.org  Tue May 19 08:12:28 2009
From: dkowis at shlrm.org (David Kowis)
Date: Tue May 19 08:12:32 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <474097702-1242365972-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-703061290-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <014901c9d415$7a3f4ba0$6ebde2e0$@com><4c0ec4450905140732x211fecb3gc92e013132d85fbc@mail.gmail.com><e5fa90240905140810t4983621p6c6010b705a4777@mail.gmail.com><1242346579.5496.18.camel@redpill-laptop><1242346743.5496.21.camel@redpill-laptop><4A0CB82D.7020604@gmail.com><1242349307.5496.51.camel@redpill-laptop><0avp05l8cll0e4f7s1ubum9eq5rm0lk3fj@4ax.com>
	<474097702-1242365972-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-703061290-@bxe1230.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4A12B03C.1000606@shlrm.org>

christopher.lemire@gmail.com wrote:
> I imagine people who do a lot of torrents run up a big bill with at&t. 

Can't say that I've ever had a larger than $40 bill...
http://shlrm.org/vnstat - monthly cumulative usage

David Kowis

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wright <satlug@sbcglobal.net>
> 
> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:35:45 
> To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List<satlug@satlug.org>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] ISP Recommendations
> 
> 
> People should also note that AT&T has an "excess usage" fee in their
> latest user agreements, but never bothers to define excess usage or
> specify the amount of the fee.  --Don
> 
> Todd W. Bucy wrote:
>> this may be true...but dont doubt for a minute that they wont try again.
>> Todd
> 
>>> That's a little harsh.  They sent up a trial balloon and it was shot down.  At 
>>> least they listened.  I have no experience with Grande, but TW seems OK to me, 
>>> but my demands are slim.  I only want them to route my packets and I do use 
>>> their outgoing mail server.  Otherwise, I don't use/need anything else from them.
>>>
>>>    -- Bruce
> 

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Tue May 19 10:19:38 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Tue May 19 10:19:41 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] fstab help
Message-ID: <1242746378.12988.13.camel@redpill-laptop>

hey all I need some help with my fstab.  I have been using the following
command to get my Garmin GPS up and running.  

sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb

however typing out this command every time I want to use my GPS
inconvenient.  Can some one give me a hand with the entering this into
my fstab.  I can't seem to get the syntax right. 

Thanks
Todd

From j at jvpappas.net  Tue May 19 11:00:33 2009
From: j at jvpappas.net (John Pappas)
Date: Tue May 19 11:00:35 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] fstab help
In-Reply-To: <1242746378.12988.13.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <1242746378.12988.13.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <4c0ec4450905190900n1c4753farba13650294440328@mail.gmail.com>

If this is a USB device, you can add a custom UDEV entry so that when the
device identifier used is discovered (SerialNo, ManufacturerID/DevID, or any
other valid ID) that command is run by UDEV.

Ref: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html

Now looking at that command, you may be able to add it to your RC init
sequence (rc.local or the like) so that it happens when you boot.

HTH,
jp

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:19, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:

> hey all I need some help with my fstab.  I have been using the following
> command to get my Garmin GPS up and running.
>
> sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb
>
> however typing out this command every time I want to use my GPS
> inconvenient.  Can some one give me a hand with the entering this into
> my fstab.  I can't seem to get the syntax right.
>
> Thanks
> Todd
>
> --
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From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Tue May 19 11:08:59 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Tue May 19 11:09:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] fstab help
In-Reply-To: <4c0ec4450905190900n1c4753farba13650294440328@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1242746378.12988.13.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<4c0ec4450905190900n1c4753farba13650294440328@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242749339.12988.15.camel@redpill-laptop>

thanks I will try to add it to my rc

Todd

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 11:00 -0500, John Pappas wrote:
> If this is a USB device, you can add a custom UDEV entry so that when the
> device identifier used is discovered (SerialNo, ManufacturerID/DevID, or any
> other valid ID) that command is run by UDEV.
> 
> Ref: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
> 
> Now looking at that command, you may be able to add it to your RC init
> sequence (rc.local or the like) so that it happens when you boot.
> 
> HTH,
> jp
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:19, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:
> 
> > hey all I need some help with my fstab.  I have been using the following
> > command to get my Garmin GPS up and running.
> >
> > sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb
> >
> > however typing out this command every time I want to use my GPS
> > inconvenient.  Can some one give me a hand with the entering this into
> > my fstab.  I can't seem to get the syntax right.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Todd
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
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From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Tue May 19 15:30:20 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Tue May 19 15:30:23 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] fstab help
In-Reply-To: <4c0ec4450905190900n1c4753farba13650294440328@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1242746378.12988.13.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<4c0ec4450905190900n1c4753farba13650294440328@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242765020.12988.22.camel@redpill-laptop>

thanks JP for the hint.  I added the following two lines to my .bashrc
file

sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb 
sudo gpsd -F /var/run/gpsd.sock /dev/ttyUSB0

and am now able to plug and play my garmin gps.

Todd

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 11:00 -0500, John Pappas wrote:
> If this is a USB device, you can add a custom UDEV entry so that when the
> device identifier used is discovered (SerialNo, ManufacturerID/DevID, or any
> other valid ID) that command is run by UDEV.
> 
> Ref: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
> 
> Now looking at that command, you may be able to add it to your RC init
> sequence (rc.local or the like) so that it happens when you boot.
> 
> HTH,
> jp
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:19, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:
> 
> > hey all I need some help with my fstab.  I have been using the following
> > command to get my Garmin GPS up and running.
> >
> > sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb
> >
> > however typing out this command every time I want to use my GPS
> > inconvenient.  Can some one give me a hand with the entering this into
> > my fstab.  I can't seem to get the syntax right.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Todd
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
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> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
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From sahensch at gmail.com  Tue May 19 17:23:39 2009
From: sahensch at gmail.com (Scott Hensch)
Date: Tue May 19 17:23:45 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] fstab help
In-Reply-To: <1242765020.12988.22.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <1242746378.12988.13.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<4c0ec4450905190900n1c4753farba13650294440328@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242765020.12988.22.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <56b38ee60905191523u44745d14mcb3854ab0ab7b42a@mail.gmail.com>

Todd,

Could you point me in the right direction? Where, exactly, did you add
those lines.
I've got a Garmin, also and despaired of ever getting it working in
Linux (Ubuntu 8.10)
Scott

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:
> thanks JP for the hint. ?I added the following two lines to my .bashrc
> file
>
> sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb
> sudo gpsd -F /var/run/gpsd.sock /dev/ttyUSB0
>
> and am now able to plug and play my garmin gps.
>
> Todd
>
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 11:00 -0500, John Pappas wrote:
>> If this is a USB device, you can add a custom UDEV entry so that when the
>> device identifier used is discovered (SerialNo, ManufacturerID/DevID, or any
>> other valid ID) that command is run by UDEV.
>>
>> Ref: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
>>
>> Now looking at that command, you may be able to add it to your RC init
>> sequence (rc.local or the like) so that it happens when you boot.
>>
>> HTH,
>> jp
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:19, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:
>>
>> > hey all I need some help with my fstab. ?I have been using the following
>> > command to get my Garmin GPS up and running.
>> >
>> > sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb
>> >
>> > however typing out this command every time I want to use my GPS
>> > inconvenient. ?Can some one give me a hand with the entering this into
>> > my fstab. ?I can't seem to get the syntax right.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Todd
>> >
>> > --
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > SATLUG mailing list
>> > SATLUG@satlug.org
>> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
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From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Tue May 19 17:49:11 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Tue May 19 17:49:14 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] fstab help
In-Reply-To: <56b38ee60905191523u44745d14mcb3854ab0ab7b42a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1242746378.12988.13.camel@redpill-laptop>
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Its a little more involved then just adding those lines at the end of
your .bashrc file.

here is what I did to get my Garmin Rino 520 to work.  its an older
discontinued model so no guarantees it will work for you

1. make sure you have libusb-1.0-0, libusb-dev, gpsbabel, gpsd,
gpsd-clients, and gpsdrive.
2. unblacklist the garmin_usb driver in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
3. modprobe garmin_usb
4. sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb - this line was added to the
end of the .bashrc file
5. plug in the garmin gps reciever
6. run gpsd: sudo gpsd -F /var/run/gpsd.sock /dev/ttyUSB0 - this one as
well
7 should work use xgps to test for data


also bear in mind that I am running Ubuntu 9.04 so you may need to
change these up a bit to fit your distro.

good luck
Todd

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:23 -0500, Scott Hensch wrote:
> Todd,
> 
> Could you point me in the right direction? Where, exactly, did you add
> those lines.
> I've got a Garmin, also and despaired of ever getting it working in
> Linux (Ubuntu 8.10)
> Scott
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:
> > thanks JP for the hint.  I added the following two lines to my .bashrc
> > file
> >
> > sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb
> > sudo gpsd -F /var/run/gpsd.sock /dev/ttyUSB0
> >
> > and am now able to plug and play my garmin gps.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 11:00 -0500, John Pappas wrote:
> >> If this is a USB device, you can add a custom UDEV entry so that when the
> >> device identifier used is discovered (SerialNo, ManufacturerID/DevID, or any
> >> other valid ID) that command is run by UDEV.
> >>
> >> Ref: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
> >>
> >> Now looking at that command, you may be able to add it to your RC init
> >> sequence (rc.local or the like) so that it happens when you boot.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> jp
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:19, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > hey all I need some help with my fstab.  I have been using the following
> >> > command to get my Garmin GPS up and running.
> >> >
> >> > sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb
> >> >
> >> > however typing out this command every time I want to use my GPS
> >> > inconvenient.  Can some one give me a hand with the entering this into
> >> > my fstab.  I can't seem to get the syntax right.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Todd
> >> >
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From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Tue May 19 20:43:15 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Tue May 19 20:43:17 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <418207.42226.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


The "soonest" became Tuesday of this week.  Had a few other systems to finish before hers.  Well I got hers to boot but to an older kernel version.  The fix posted on Ubuntu forums no workie.  Her system is just jacked up.  An xterm session ends up disappearing after a few minutes so I yanked her hd and am tar'ing up her personal dir.  

I'll install the latest version of Ubuntu after this is done.

-Alex


--- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:47 PM
> 
> Well, the soonest I told her I can fix it is Tuesday.?
> I told her I'll try the fix on the ubuntu forums that Sean
> posted.? Worst case I'll just get her files off of
> there, reinstall and xfer her files back.? Should be
> pretty easy.? I'll keep you'all posted.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List"
> <satlug@satlug.org>
> > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:34 PM
> > I'm on the phone w/her now.? I'll take care of
> it.
> > 
> > -Alex
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:31 AM
> > > Perhaps someone in Cheryl's area (N.E. San
> > Antonio)
> > > could
> > > provide her a "Live CD"? _buntu, Knoppix,
> or
> > > whatever.? 
> > > 
> > > This would get her on-line for a walk-through
> > restoration
> > > attempt.? 
> > > 
> > > Seems she must have (or had) a CD or DVD when
> > inititally
> > > installing Ubuntu.? 
> > > 
> > > Lou
> > > Bandera Co.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
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From afcasta at satx.rr.com  Wed May 20 09:02:13 2009
From: afcasta at satx.rr.com (Al Castanoli)
Date: Wed May 20 09:02:16 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
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Considering the vision requirement, give the netbook remix install [1] a
shot - I have it loaded on a 2GB thumb drive and it works great on my HP
mini netbook, but may be easier to see than the normal install on a
regular laptop.

[1] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook/

Al Castanoli

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 18:43 -0700, Alex Bartonek wrote:
> The "soonest" became Tuesday of this week.  Had a few other systems to finish before hers.  Well I got hers to boot but to an older kernel version.  The fix posted on Ubuntu forums no workie.  Her system is just jacked up.  An xterm session ends up disappearing after a few minutes so I yanked her hd and am tar'ing up her personal dir.  
> 
> I'll install the latest version of Ubuntu after this is done.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:47 PM
> > 
> > Well, the soonest I told her I can fix it is Tuesday. 
> > I told her I'll try the fix on the ubuntu forums that Sean
> > posted.  Worst case I'll just get her files off of
> > there, reinstall and xfer her files back.  Should be
> > pretty easy.  I'll keep you'all posted.
> > 
> > -Alex
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List"
> > <satlug@satlug.org>
> > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:34 PM
> > > I'm on the phone w/her now.  I'll take care of
> > it.
> > > 
> > > -Alex
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:31 AM
> > > > Perhaps someone in Cheryl's area (N.E. San
> > > Antonio)
> > > > could
> > > > provide her a "Live CD"  _buntu, Knoppix,
> > or
> > > > whatever.  
> > > > 
> > > > This would get her on-line for a walk-through
> > > restoration
> > > > attempt.  
> > > > 
> > > > Seems she must have (or had) a CD or DVD when
> > > inititally
> > > > installing Ubuntu.  
> > > > 
> > > > Lou
> > > > Bandera Co.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --
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From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Wed May 20 09:42:02 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Wed May 20 09:42:06 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <1242828133.3288.5.camel@picotriffid>
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Depending Cheryl's configuration I would consider using 8.04 lts rather
then 9.04 ubuntu.  the new gnome compiz-fusion is real resource heavy
for a *nix system.

Todd

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:02 -0500, Al Castanoli wrote:
> Considering the vision requirement, give the netbook remix install [1] a
> shot - I have it loaded on a 2GB thumb drive and it works great on my HP
> mini netbook, but may be easier to see than the normal install on a
> regular laptop.
> 
> [1] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook/
> 
> Al Castanoli
> 
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 18:43 -0700, Alex Bartonek wrote:
> > The "soonest" became Tuesday of this week.  Had a few other systems to finish before hers.  Well I got hers to boot but to an older kernel version.  The fix posted on Ubuntu forums no workie.  Her system is just jacked up.  An xterm session ends up disappearing after a few minutes so I yanked her hd and am tar'ing up her personal dir.  
> > 
> > I'll install the latest version of Ubuntu after this is done.
> > 
> > -Alex
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:47 PM
> > > 
> > > Well, the soonest I told her I can fix it is Tuesday. 
> > > I told her I'll try the fix on the ubuntu forums that Sean
> > > posted.  Worst case I'll just get her files off of
> > > there, reinstall and xfer her files back.  Should be
> > > pretty easy.  I'll keep you'all posted.
> > > 
> > > -Alex
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List"
> > > <satlug@satlug.org>
> > > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:34 PM
> > > > I'm on the phone w/her now.  I'll take care of
> > > it.
> > > > 
> > > > -Alex
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > > > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > > > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > > > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > > > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:31 AM
> > > > > Perhaps someone in Cheryl's area (N.E. San
> > > > Antonio)
> > > > > could
> > > > > provide her a "Live CD"  _buntu, Knoppix,
> > > or
> > > > > whatever.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > This would get her on-line for a walk-through
> > > > restoration
> > > > > attempt.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Seems she must have (or had) a CD or DVD when
> > > > inititally
> > > > > installing Ubuntu.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > Bandera Co.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
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> 

From afcasta at satx.rr.com  Wed May 20 11:38:49 2009
From: afcasta at satx.rr.com (Al Castanoli)
Date: Wed May 20 11:38:53 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <1242830522.5086.3.camel@redpill-laptop>
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I think that depends on the implementation - the MacPup 412 version
seems fairly tidy.  The netbook remix I mentioned in the post you quoted
isn't running compiz-fusion, but rather has a very simple window
manager.

Al Castanoli

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:42 -0500, Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> Depending Cheryl's configuration I would consider using 8.04 lts rather
> then 9.04 ubuntu.  the new gnome compiz-fusion is real resource heavy
> for a *nix system.
> 
> Todd
> 
> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:02 -0500, Al Castanoli wrote:
> > Considering the vision requirement, give the netbook remix install [1] a
> > shot - I have it loaded on a 2GB thumb drive and it works great on my HP
> > mini netbook, but may be easier to see than the normal install on a
> > regular laptop.
> > 
> > [1] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook/
> > 
> > Al Castanoli
> > 
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 18:43 -0700, Alex Bartonek wrote:
> > > The "soonest" became Tuesday of this week.  Had a few other systems to finish before hers.  Well I got hers to boot but to an older kernel version.  The fix posted on Ubuntu forums no workie.  Her system is just jacked up.  An xterm session ends up disappearing after a few minutes so I yanked her hd and am tar'ing up her personal dir.  
> > > 
> > > I'll install the latest version of Ubuntu after this is done.
> > > 
> > > -Alex
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> > > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:47 PM
> > > > 
> > > > Well, the soonest I told her I can fix it is Tuesday. 
> > > > I told her I'll try the fix on the ubuntu forums that Sean
> > > > posted.  Worst case I'll just get her files off of
> > > > there, reinstall and xfer her files back.  Should be
> > > > pretty easy.  I'll keep you'all posted.
> > > > 
> > > > -Alex
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List"
> > > > <satlug@satlug.org>
> > > > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:34 PM
> > > > > I'm on the phone w/her now.  I'll take care of
> > > > it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Alex
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > > > > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > From: scs@worldlinkisp.com
> > > > > <scs@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > > > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > > > > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > > > > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:31 AM
> > > > > > Perhaps someone in Cheryl's area (N.E. San
> > > > > Antonio)
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > provide her a "Live CD"  _buntu, Knoppix,
> > > > or
> > > > > > whatever.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This would get her on-line for a walk-through
> > > > > restoration
> > > > > > attempt.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Seems she must have (or had) a CD or DVD when
> > > > > inititally
> > > > > > installing Ubuntu.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > Bandera Co.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --
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From hc at lookcee.com  Wed May 20 11:54:23 2009
From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee)
Date: Wed May 20 11:54:38 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <1242837529.3379.3.camel@picotriffid>
References: <418207.42226.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com>	<1242828133.3288.5.camel@picotriffid>	<1242830522.5086.3.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<1242837529.3379.3.camel@picotriffid>
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Al Castanoli wrote:
> I think that depends on the implementation - the MacPup 412 version
> seems fairly tidy.  The netbook remix I mentioned in the post you quoted
> isn't running compiz-fusion, but rather has a very simple window
> manager.
>
> Al Castanoli
>   
Al, FYI Cheryl has an AMD P4 desktop, I think a 1.2G and she has 
recently upgraded memory to 1.5GB (3x512mb) She has a 19"LCD monitor. 
She is used to operating the U-8.04 and was happy with it.  As I 
understood she said 'yes' to the auto upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 by 
mistake thinking it was just an update, unfortunately the upgrade 
failed. Alex says her HD is totally scrambled. I have an extra 60GB HD 
that I am mailing to her but my first chance to get to town will be the 
2nd of next mo. After Alex gets her back running she will have some backup.
herb
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Wed May 20 12:03:16 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Wed May 20 12:03:18 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <4A1435BF.5080808@lookcee.com>
References: <418207.42226.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
	<1242828133.3288.5.camel@picotriffid>
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Message-ID: <1242838996.5086.6.camel@redpill-laptop>

If she doesn't have a 3d card then I would go with either the netbook
edition of xubuntu.  just stay away from the gnome or kde versions as
both tend to be resources heavy.

Todd

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:54 -0500, Herb Cee wrote:
> Al Castanoli wrote:
> > I think that depends on the implementation - the MacPup 412 version
> > seems fairly tidy.  The netbook remix I mentioned in the post you quoted
> > isn't running compiz-fusion, but rather has a very simple window
> > manager.
> >
> > Al Castanoli
> >   
> Al, FYI Cheryl has an AMD P4 desktop, I think a 1.2G and she has 
> recently upgraded memory to 1.5GB (3x512mb) She has a 19"LCD monitor. 
> She is used to operating the U-8.04 and was happy with it.  As I 
> understood she said 'yes' to the auto upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 by 
> mistake thinking it was just an update, unfortunately the upgrade 
> failed. Alex says her HD is totally scrambled. I have an extra 60GB HD 
> that I am mailing to her but my first chance to get to town will be the 
> 2nd of next mo. After Alex gets her back running she will have some backup.
> herb

From gabriel.doss at gmail.com  Wed May 20 15:59:39 2009
From: gabriel.doss at gmail.com (Gabriel Doss)
Date: Wed May 20 15:59:45 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
Message-ID: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>

I am trying to get apache-2.2 to serve three sites, one http and two https
with separate self-signed certs. I know apache requires different ports for
all three since two are SSL and cannot share a same IP/same port
configuration like http traffic can.

So, I've set apache to listen on ports 80, 443, and 4443, set up
NameVirtualHost to also listen on those three ports, and set up three
VirtualHost, each with their respective port specified, as well as
DocumentRoot and ServerName. The two SSL sites have the path to their
certificate and enable SSLEngine.

The site and port 80 and port 443 work just fine, but the site on port 4443
only works when I specify the port in the URL. If the port is not specified
in the URL the site displayed is the one on port 443. The following may help
if that is confusing.

On port 80:
http://nonsecure.domain.com -- all OK

On port 443:
https://secure1.domain.com -- all OK

On port 4443:
https://secure2.domain.com -- appears as https://secure1.domain.com
https://secure2.domain.com:4443 -- all OK

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Gabriel
From henry.pugsley at gmail.com  Wed May 20 17:37:16 2009
From: henry.pugsley at gmail.com (Henry Pugsley)
Date: Wed May 20 17:37:18 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
In-Reply-To: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Gabriel Doss <gabriel.doss@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am trying to get apache-2.2 to serve three sites, one http and two https
> with separate self-signed certs. I know apache requires different ports for
> all three since two are SSL and cannot share a same IP/same port
> configuration like http traffic can.
>
> So, I've set apache to listen on ports 80, 443, and 4443, set up
> NameVirtualHost to also listen on those three ports, and set up three
> VirtualHost, each with their respective port specified, as well as
> DocumentRoot and ServerName. The two SSL sites have the path to their
> certificate and enable SSLEngine.
>
> The site and port 80 and port 443 work just fine, but the site on port 4443
> only works when I specify the port in the URL. If the port is not specified
> in the URL the site displayed is the one on port 443. The following may help
> if that is confusing.
>
> On port 80:
> http://nonsecure.domain.com -- all OK
>
> On port 443:
> https://secure1.domain.com -- all OK
>
> On port 4443:
> https://secure2.domain.com -- appears as https://secure1.domain.com
> https://secure2.domain.com:4443 -- all OK
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gabriel

That is expected behavior.  When you specify
https://secure1.domain.com or https://secure2.domain.com, and both
resolve to the same IP address, you're going to get the same site
because you are accessing <ip addres>:443.  NameVirtualHosts are
irrelevant when it comes to SSL.  It works when you specify :4443
because the browser attempts a SSL connection on the non-standard
port.  If you don't want https://secure2.domain.com to show up as
https://secure1.domain.com, you could setup a RedirectMatch or
RewriteRule that sends people to the proper port.

-Henry
From gabriel.doss at gmail.com  Wed May 20 18:31:58 2009
From: gabriel.doss at gmail.com (Gabriel Doss)
Date: Wed May 20 18:32:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
In-Reply-To: <1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f9a93640905201631q71850895p82433abeaf59844@mail.gmail.com>

Henry,

Thanks for the response. I'll try that tomorrow when I get to work, or maybe
I'll have time tonight to set up something similar on my test box at home.

My concern with using redirect was that it seemed the cert that would be
established would be for the first site, not the second site, is that
correct? Would then a second encryption connection be made with the redirect
or would the incorrect first cert be in order?

If this is the case, it seems I may be better off adding eth0:0 or
installing a second network card and using a second IP address and port
4443, rather than trying to force a redirect after encryption being
established.

Thanks,

Gabriel

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henry Pugsley <henry.pugsley@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Gabriel Doss <gabriel.doss@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I am trying to get apache-2.2 to serve three sites, one http and two
> https
> > with separate self-signed certs. I know apache requires different ports
> for
> > all three since two are SSL and cannot share a same IP/same port
> > configuration like http traffic can.
> >
> > So, I've set apache to listen on ports 80, 443, and 4443, set up
> > NameVirtualHost to also listen on those three ports, and set up three
> > VirtualHost, each with their respective port specified, as well as
> > DocumentRoot and ServerName. The two SSL sites have the path to their
> > certificate and enable SSLEngine.
> >
> > The site and port 80 and port 443 work just fine, but the site on port
> 4443
> > only works when I specify the port in the URL. If the port is not
> specified
> > in the URL the site displayed is the one on port 443. The following may
> help
> > if that is confusing.
> >
> > On port 80:
> > http://nonsecure.domain.com -- all OK
> >
> > On port 443:
> > https://secure1.domain.com -- all OK
> >
> > On port 4443:
> > https://secure2.domain.com -- appears as https://secure1.domain.com
> > https://secure2.domain.com:4443 -- all OK
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gabriel
>
> That is expected behavior.  When you specify
> https://secure1.domain.com or https://secure2.domain.com, and both
> resolve to the same IP address, you're going to get the same site
> because you are accessing <ip addres>:443.  NameVirtualHosts are
> irrelevant when it comes to SSL.  It works when you specify :4443
> because the browser attempts a SSL connection on the non-standard
> port.  If you don't want https://secure2.domain.com to show up as
> https://secure1.domain.com, you could setup a RedirectMatch or
> RewriteRule that sends people to the proper port.
>
> -Henry
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
>
From e2eiod at gmail.com  Wed May 20 20:49:17 2009
From: e2eiod at gmail.com (Robert Pearson)
Date: Wed May 20 20:49:23 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <4A1435BF.5080808@lookcee.com>
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On 5/20/09, Herb Cee <hc@lookcee.com> wrote:
> Al Castanoli wrote:
>
> > I think that depends on the implementation - the MacPup 412 version
> > seems fairly tidy.  The netbook remix I mentioned in the post you quoted
> > isn't running compiz-fusion, but rather has a very simple window
> > manager.
> >
> > Al Castanoli
> >
> >
>  Al, FYI Cheryl has an AMD P4 desktop, I think a 1.2G and she has recently
> upgraded memory to 1.5GB (3x512mb) She has a 19"LCD monitor. She is used to
> operating the U-8.04 and was happy with it.  As I understood she said 'yes'
> to the auto upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 by mistake thinking it was just an
> update, unfortunately the upgrade failed. Alex says her HD is totally
> scrambled. I have an extra 60GB HD that I am mailing to her but my first
> chance to get to town will be the 2nd of next mo. After Alex gets her back
> running she will have some backup.
>  herb
>  --

Herb,
Good to hear from you.
This might be a good plan for Cheryl. Ubuntu 8.04 is a planned "Long
term support releases only". Might be years before an upgrade is
required.

My experience after my "upgrade" from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 is it blew
up the same way as Cheryl's and I spent several hours trying to fix it
before I gave up. FYI, I reinstalled 8.04 on that machine, did all the
updates, etc. and tried the 8.04 to 9.04 "upgrade" and it blew up as
well. The upgrades from 8.04 to 8.10 worked fine. After I waited for
8.10 to stabilize. For some strange reason Kubuntu 8.04 upgraded to
9.04 without a hitch but I can't stand the Kubuntu 9.04 KDE.

I would still be running Ubuntu 8.04 but I noticed I wasn't getting
many updates. My other OS's were getting almost daily updates. I
researched why Ubuntu 8.04 wasn't getting updates, found out and
changed the "System > Administration > Software Sources > Updates >
Release upgrade" from "Long term support releases only" to "Normal
releases". That did it. Somehow Cheryl's got changed. Not a good thing
for most users. They should be set for "Long term support releases
only".

Bottom line, Ubuntu 9.04 installed from CD without a hitch and works
flawlessly on my old P4 and AMD. It seems much faster than 8.04.
Kubuntu 9.04 also work and seems faster than 8.04 but I can't get
comfortable with the KDE it comes with.

How's your blood pressure?

Robert
From satlugacct at jchampion.com  Wed May 20 22:20:31 2009
From: satlugacct at jchampion.com (John Champion)
Date: Wed May 20 22:20:33 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
In-Reply-To: <1242418983.14413.7.camel@redpill-laptop>
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	<1242345500.5496.8.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<1cb556d10905150734i1e738a01s66244546c8f5b78@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242399141.4877.23.camel@redpill-laptop>
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	<1242418983.14413.7.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <1cb556d10905202020l108d9bb6k231972ec86d79fe4@mail.gmail.com>

COSA has wifi access and the AP you picked up was probably the one of them
but they are probably on a Radius server like the Express News is. I pick
them up at my office. You can connect but you cannot do anything unless you
have a username/password combo.



On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net>wrote:

> Ok then thats not the AP I'm looking for.  about 6 months ago I was
> downtown at a sandwich shop across from the courthouse and picked up an
> AP that appeared to be run by the city. I am very interested in finding
> this AP.  I plan on doing a more intensive run Sunday night.  Maybe I
> will find it then.  If not I will have to do the run during business
> hours.  not my idea of fun, driving around downtown during the day :-(
>
> Todd
>
> On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 11:53 -0700, dinger@dingernet.com wrote:
> > Yes, both are hot spots.  I used to use Public Access WiFi.  They also
> > charge about $20 / month if I remember correctly.  I could pick up a
> > couple of AP's most of the time, but there were times (usually only when
> I
> > really needed it) when the signal strength was too low to connect to any
> > of them.  I stick to wires now.
> >
> > ~Jared
> >
> > > if its a pay service why then are all the SA Public WiFi open? or are
> > > they a hot spot provider?
> > >
> > > same question goes for the set of ap's with ssid's of Public Access
> > > Wifi.
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > > --
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> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
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> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
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From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com  Wed May 20 22:32:58 2009
From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1)
Date: Wed May 20 22:33:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Recommendations for a SAMBA/NAS device?
Message-ID: <869de8470905202032s5a9a53edu1df3fd1df7bc06db@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone.

I'm trying to solve a major power issue at the house and am hoping
that someone can shed some of their energy managment insight.

I've been using Zeus (my main gaming rig) as my fileserver now for a
while but am wantnig to see what I can do about cutting down on my
power usage.  Zeus is an Athlon64 running at about 3GHz with a total
of 7 drives in it and a handful of other peripherals. The problem is
that four of those drives are SATA 750GB drives and are hanging off of
a Promise FastTrack TX130 RAID controller and the array is about 2TB
and has pretty much everything on it concerning projects, documents,
code, apps, etc. and is very important to have always available.

The problem I'm wanting to solve is how can I minimize power usage but
still keep the array available?  I've pondered being able to seperate
the drive array from the machine, but I'd have to have a machine to
put it into and then I'd be back to the same problem again.

My thinking is that a low-powered machine, like an embedded system
would do it nicely, but I want to make every effort I can to insure
that the machine is as low-power as possible, and that the data on the
array is preserved. I am thinking something like the Linksys NSLU2,
but with one PCI slot instead of two USB ports, running off of flash
or a laptop HDD in a Linux environment.

I've done some research into an embedded systems and was impressed
with the Shuttle and VIA boards.  Something like that might prove
ideal but I have never used one.  I have an Artigo pico-ITX board but
it is very underpowered, I don't want to run into a similar situation
with this project.

With that in mind, I'm looking for suggestions both from a hardware
level and from a software level.

On the hardware side, I want a case that has three forward facing 5.25
drives (the SATA drive cage I have occupies three bays) and some place
to mount a laptop HDD (or if a flash drive is used, this requirement
is mitigated).

The hardware must haves:
- 10/100 Ethernet wired.  (GigE is a Nice-to-have, but not required)
- One PCI slot (PCI-64bit is not needed)
- One IDE port or Flash disk capable of a 4GB microdrive or similar
sized CF card.
- Power Supply that won't crap out on me in a year that can be easily
field-replaced and can drive all components. (No fifty thousand power
bricks and don't want another "e-machines" power supply)
- Processor that is not massively overpowered, but not horribly
underpowered either. Want to be able to run LAMP and SAMBA and support
multiple concurrent users without issue. (Believe it or not, Windows
works without issue in it's current configuration.)
- Must have adequate cooling but not sound like a jet engine.  (Don't
want it louder than a Compaq DL380 :P )

On the software side, must haves
- Linux platform, with modular installation/removal. (Like apt-get,
but recently got stung by Ubuntu so not too sure on software updates.)
- SSH, Samba, Apache, NTP
- Hardware support for the FastTrack TX430 is a _MUST_  I can't afford
another RAID card and besides, where am I going to stash a TB of data
for the conversion?

Nice-to-haves (both hardware and software)
- Really don't want another desktop or server case around the house,
something smaller is nice
- A Web-based administration console like the NSLU2 or similar.

What do you guys recommend? What are your experiences with home-NAS
solutions?  What issues did you encounter and what did you do to fix
them?


Thanks in advance.

FIRESTORM_v1
From brad at shub-internet.org  Wed May 20 18:09:35 2009
From: brad at shub-internet.org (Brad Knowles)
Date: Wed May 20 22:55:05 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
In-Reply-To: <1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A148DAF.9030205@shub-internet.org>

on 5/20/09 5:37 PM, Henry Pugsley said:

>       If you don't want https://secure2.domain.com to show up as
> https://secure1.domain.com, you could setup a RedirectMatch or
> RewriteRule that sends people to the proper port.

I'm not even sure that's going to work.  My understanding is that SSL 
certs are tied to the IP address, so that you need a separate IP address 
for each SSL site that you're going to run.

-- 
Brad Knowles
<brad@shub-internet.org>        If you like Jazz/R&B guitar, check out
LinkedIn Profile:                 my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at
<http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>    http://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks
From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Thu May 21 00:27:15 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Thu May 21 00:27:17 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
In-Reply-To: <4A148DAF.9030205@shub-internet.org>
References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>	<1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A148DAF.9030205@shub-internet.org>
Message-ID: <4A14E633.3000105@gmail.com>

Brad Knowles wrote:
> on 5/20/09 5:37 PM, Henry Pugsley said:
> 
>>       If you don't want https://secure2.domain.com to show up as
>> https://secure1.domain.com, you could setup a RedirectMatch or
>> RewriteRule that sends people to the proper port.
> 
> I'm not even sure that's going to work.  My understanding is that SSL 
> certs are tied to the IP address, so that you need a separate IP address 
> for each SSL site that you're going to run.

I haven't been following this closely, but it makes no sense for a cert to be 
tied to an ip address.  It does make sense to be tied to a domain name.  I know 
that openssl does not require a domain name when generating a cert.  If it's a 
self signed cert (aka a certificate authority), it certainly doesn't make sense 
to tie this to an ip address.

Now apache may do something with the domain name...

Now I see:

http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/ExampleVhosts

<VirtualHost _default_:443>
   # Only one virtual host allowed on this port, because name-based
   # virtual hosting doesn't work with SSL
   ServerName www.foo.com
   DocumentRoot /var/www/www.foo.com/htdocs

   CustomLog /var/log/apache/www.foo.com-access.log combined
   ErrorLog /var/log/apache/www.foo.com-error.log

   SSLEngine On

</VirtualHost>

So it's an apache/ssl issue.  Some googling gives:

http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Setting_up_an_SSL_server_with_Apache2
http://www.stombi.net/blog/post/2005/07/14/30-apache2-multiple-ssl-virtual-hosts

Which explain the issue more.

   -- Bruce
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Thu May 21 06:58:06 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Thu May 21 07:04:43 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] External Laptop Antena and the SAFreePublicWiFi
In-Reply-To: <1cb556d10905202020l108d9bb6k231972ec86d79fe4@mail.gmail.com>
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no the one I picked up  was for public access.  Had a COSA intro page
which explained as much and warned of no guarantee of privacy (normal
public access warnings).  As soon as I get over this cold I will be
making another more targeted run.  My Idea is to get the exact
coordinates of the closest ap to me and to use that ap for my antenna
experiments. 

Todd

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 22:20 -0500, John Champion wrote:
> COSA has wifi access and the AP you picked up was probably the one of them
> but they are probably on a Radius server like the Express News is. I pick
> them up at my office. You can connect but you cannot do anything unless you
> have a username/password combo.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net>wrote:
> 
> > Ok then thats not the AP I'm looking for.  about 6 months ago I was
> > downtown at a sandwich shop across from the courthouse and picked up an
> > AP that appeared to be run by the city. I am very interested in finding
> > this AP.  I plan on doing a more intensive run Sunday night.  Maybe I
> > will find it then.  If not I will have to do the run during business
> > hours.  not my idea of fun, driving around downtown during the day :-(
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 11:53 -0700, dinger@dingernet.com wrote:
> > > Yes, both are hot spots.  I used to use Public Access WiFi.  They also
> > > charge about $20 / month if I remember correctly.  I could pick up a
> > > couple of AP's most of the time, but there were times (usually only when
> > I
> > > really needed it) when the signal strength was too low to connect to any
> > > of them.  I stick to wires now.
> > >
> > > ~Jared
> > >
> > > > if its a pay service why then are all the SA Public WiFi open? or are
> > > > they a hot spot provider?
> > > >
> > > > same question goes for the set of ap's with ssid's of Public Access
> > > > Wifi.
> > > >
> > > > Todd
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> >

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Thu May 21 07:04:39 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Thu May 21 07:04:45 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Recommendations for a SAMBA/NAS device?
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are you looking for something like this?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3258543&CatId=2684
 its a bit on the pricey side but A little imagination and one should be
able to rig something up similar

Todd

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 22:32 -0500, FIRESTORM_v1 wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I'm trying to solve a major power issue at the house and am hoping
> that someone can shed some of their energy managment insight.
> 
> I've been using Zeus (my main gaming rig) as my fileserver now for a
> while but am wantnig to see what I can do about cutting down on my
> power usage.  Zeus is an Athlon64 running at about 3GHz with a total
> of 7 drives in it and a handful of other peripherals. The problem is
> that four of those drives are SATA 750GB drives and are hanging off of
> a Promise FastTrack TX130 RAID controller and the array is about 2TB
> and has pretty much everything on it concerning projects, documents,
> code, apps, etc. and is very important to have always available.
> 
> The problem I'm wanting to solve is how can I minimize power usage but
> still keep the array available?  I've pondered being able to seperate
> the drive array from the machine, but I'd have to have a machine to
> put it into and then I'd be back to the same problem again.
> 
> My thinking is that a low-powered machine, like an embedded system
> would do it nicely, but I want to make every effort I can to insure
> that the machine is as low-power as possible, and that the data on the
> array is preserved. I am thinking something like the Linksys NSLU2,
> but with one PCI slot instead of two USB ports, running off of flash
> or a laptop HDD in a Linux environment.
> 
> I've done some research into an embedded systems and was impressed
> with the Shuttle and VIA boards.  Something like that might prove
> ideal but I have never used one.  I have an Artigo pico-ITX board but
> it is very underpowered, I don't want to run into a similar situation
> with this project.
> 
> With that in mind, I'm looking for suggestions both from a hardware
> level and from a software level.
> 
> On the hardware side, I want a case that has three forward facing 5.25
> drives (the SATA drive cage I have occupies three bays) and some place
> to mount a laptop HDD (or if a flash drive is used, this requirement
> is mitigated).
> 
> The hardware must haves:
> - 10/100 Ethernet wired.  (GigE is a Nice-to-have, but not required)
> - One PCI slot (PCI-64bit is not needed)
> - One IDE port or Flash disk capable of a 4GB microdrive or similar
> sized CF card.
> - Power Supply that won't crap out on me in a year that can be easily
> field-replaced and can drive all components. (No fifty thousand power
> bricks and don't want another "e-machines" power supply)
> - Processor that is not massively overpowered, but not horribly
> underpowered either. Want to be able to run LAMP and SAMBA and support
> multiple concurrent users without issue. (Believe it or not, Windows
> works without issue in it's current configuration.)
> - Must have adequate cooling but not sound like a jet engine.  (Don't
> want it louder than a Compaq DL380 :P )
> 
> On the software side, must haves
> - Linux platform, with modular installation/removal. (Like apt-get,
> but recently got stung by Ubuntu so not too sure on software updates.)
> - SSH, Samba, Apache, NTP
> - Hardware support for the FastTrack TX430 is a _MUST_  I can't afford
> another RAID card and besides, where am I going to stash a TB of data
> for the conversion?
> 
> Nice-to-haves (both hardware and software)
> - Really don't want another desktop or server case around the house,
> something smaller is nice
> - A Web-based administration console like the NSLU2 or similar.
> 
> What do you guys recommend? What are your experiences with home-NAS
> solutions?  What issues did you encounter and what did you do to fix
> them?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> FIRESTORM_v1

From jeremymann at gmail.com  Thu May 21 09:42:24 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Thu May 21 09:42:34 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
In-Reply-To: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905210742kead70c1g2089776d2c04b9f0@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Gabriel Doss <gabriel.doss@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am trying to get apache-2.2 to serve three sites, one http and two https
> with separate self-signed certs. I know apache requires different ports for
> all three since two are SSL and cannot share a same IP/same port
> configuration like http traffic can.

Gabriel, this is false. I run a webserver here at the HSC that serves
up various domains and 4 HTTPS sites concurrently. 3 of the HTTPS
sites are the same IP and 1 is on a dedicated IP.

Here is how I have it (domains and IP are removed)

CentOS5 (Apache 2.1)
/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf

NameVirtualHost x.x.x.x:443

<VirtualHost x.x.x.x:443>
DocumentRoot /home/www/xxxxxx
Servername xxxxxxxxx.uthscsa.edu
ServerAdmin jeremy@xxxxxx.uthscsa.edu
SSLEngine On
SSLCertificateFile /etc/httpd/xxxxx/xxxxx.crt
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/httpd/xxxxxx/xxxxx.key
</VirtualHost>

Repeat for as many https domains you need and restart Apache


-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From tweeks at rackspace.com  Thu May 21 10:55:41 2009
From: tweeks at rackspace.com (Tweeks)
Date: Thu May 21 10:51:28 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Re: [XCSSA] Recommendations for a SAMBA/NAS device?
In-Reply-To: <869de8470905202032s5a9a53edu1df3fd1df7bc06db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <869de8470905202032s5a9a53edu1df3fd1df7bc06db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905211055.42145.tweeks@rackspace.com>

On Wednesday 20 May 2009, X-otic Computer Systems of San Antonio wrote:
> Hello everyone.
>
> I'm trying to solve a major power issue at the house and am hoping
> that someone can shed some of their energy managment insight.
>[...]
>The problem is 
> that four of those drives are SATA 750GB drives and are hanging off of
[...]
> My thinking is that a low-powered machine, like an embedded system
> would do it nicely,
[...]
> What do you guys recommend? What are your experiences with home-NAS
> solutions?  What issues did you encounter and what did you do to fix
> them?

I think that your thinking is off.. Using a low power embedded motherboard is 
barely going to touch your power consumption when 85% of your NAS power is 
being consumed by the spinning drives (not the motherboard).

I don't mean to sound harsh.. but what you need to do is to look in to using  
a "real RAID card" with battery backed up cache, write back cache, and power 
control so that when he array is not being written to.. the drives can be 
spun down.  Then when a write happens.. it writes to the cache and goes on 
while the RAID card wakes up the drives and spins them up.  Some reads can 
even stay cached.

Some OTS home-NAS systems do this now.  But nicer RAID cards that can handle 
this type of stuff are the nicer LSI, Adaptec and 3Ware IIRC SATA and SAS 
cards.

There are a couple of folks on list who have built such systems...

Tweeks
From hharadon at gmail.com  Thu May 21 11:55:14 2009
From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon)
Date: Thu May 21 11:55:15 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Recommendations for a SAMBA/NAS device?
In-Reply-To: <1242907479.19184.1.camel@redpill-laptop>
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	<1242907479.19184.1.camel@redpill-laptop>
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On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:
> are you looking for something like this?
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3258543&CatId=2684
> ?its a bit on the pricey side but A little imagination and one should be
> able to rig something up similar
>
> Todd
>
> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 22:32 -0500, FIRESTORM_v1 wrote:
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> I'm trying to solve a major power issue at the house and am hoping
>> that someone can shed some of their energy managment insight.
>>
>> I've been using Zeus (my main gaming rig) as my fileserver now for a
>> while but am wantnig to see what I can do about cutting down on my
>> power usage. ?Zeus is an Athlon64 running at about 3GHz with a total
>> of 7 drives in it and a handful of other peripherals. The problem is
>> that four of those drives are SATA 750GB drives and are hanging off of
>> a Promise FastTrack TX130 RAID controller and the array is about 2TB
>> and has pretty much everything on it concerning projects, documents,
>> code, apps, etc. and is very important to have always available.
>>
>> The problem I'm wanting to solve is how can I minimize power usage but
>> still keep the array available? ?I've pondered being able to seperate
>> the drive array from the machine, but I'd have to have a machine to
>> put it into and then I'd be back to the same problem again.
>>
>> My thinking is that a low-powered machine, like an embedded system
>> would do it nicely, but I want to make every effort I can to insure
>> that the machine is as low-power as possible, and that the data on the
>> array is preserved. I am thinking something like the Linksys NSLU2,
>> but with one PCI slot instead of two USB ports, running off of flash
>> or a laptop HDD in a Linux environment.
>>
>> I've done some research into an embedded systems and was impressed
>> with the Shuttle and VIA boards. ?Something like that might prove
>> ideal but I have never used one. ?I have an Artigo pico-ITX board but
>> it is very underpowered, I don't want to run into a similar situation
>> with this project.
>>
>> With that in mind, I'm looking for suggestions both from a hardware
>> level and from a software level.
>>
>> On the hardware side, I want a case that has three forward facing 5.25
>> drives (the SATA drive cage I have occupies three bays) and some place
>> to mount a laptop HDD (or if a flash drive is used, this requirement
>> is mitigated).
>>
>> The hardware must haves:
>> - 10/100 Ethernet wired. ?(GigE is a Nice-to-have, but not required)
>> - One PCI slot (PCI-64bit is not needed)
>> - One IDE port or Flash disk capable of a 4GB microdrive or similar
>> sized CF card.
>> - Power Supply that won't crap out on me in a year that can be easily
>> field-replaced and can drive all components. (No fifty thousand power
>> bricks and don't want another "e-machines" power supply)
>> - Processor that is not massively overpowered, but not horribly
>> underpowered either. Want to be able to run LAMP and SAMBA and support
>> multiple concurrent users without issue. (Believe it or not, Windows
>> works without issue in it's current configuration.)
>> - Must have adequate cooling but not sound like a jet engine. ?(Don't
>> want it louder than a Compaq DL380 :P )
>>
>> On the software side, must haves
>> - Linux platform, with modular installation/removal. (Like apt-get,
>> but recently got stung by Ubuntu so not too sure on software updates.)
>> - SSH, Samba, Apache, NTP
>> - Hardware support for the FastTrack TX430 is a _MUST_ ?I can't afford
>> another RAID card and besides, where am I going to stash a TB of data
>> for the conversion?
>>
>> Nice-to-haves (both hardware and software)
>> - Really don't want another desktop or server case around the house,
>> something smaller is nice
>> - A Web-based administration console like the NSLU2 or similar.
>>
>> What do you guys recommend? What are your experiences with home-NAS
>> solutions? ?What issues did you encounter and what did you do to fix
>> them?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> FIRESTORM_v1
>
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One easy and not too expensive step would be to use
an 80 Plus power supply.
HH
-- 
Howard Haradon
San Antonio, TX  USA
From hharadon at gmail.com  Thu May 21 12:10:57 2009
From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon)
Date: Thu May 21 12:10:59 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Interesting (good) Linux News
Message-ID: <e5fa90240905211010l445e2d85k369a066eb6bcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>

Saw this on CW online.

"IDG News Service -  In an effort to counter the growing dominance of
Microsoft's
Windows OS in netbooks, Intel on Tuesday announced a beta version of a Linux OS
it has developed for low-cost laptops and mobile devices."

Full article:

<http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9133279&source=CWNLE_nlt_dailyam_2009-05-20>

HH
-- 
Howard Haradon
San Antonio, TX  USA
From gabriel.doss at gmail.com  Thu May 21 12:31:15 2009
From: gabriel.doss at gmail.com (Gabriel Doss)
Date: Thu May 21 12:31:19 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
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References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>
	<79ec289f0905210742kead70c1g2089776d2c04b9f0@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Jeremy Mann <jeremymann@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Gabriel Doss <gabriel.doss@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I am trying to get apache-2.2 to serve three sites, one http and two
> https
> > with separate self-signed certs. I know apache requires different ports
> for
> > all three since two are SSL and cannot share a same IP/same port
> > configuration like http traffic can.
>
> Gabriel, this is false. I run a webserver here at the HSC that serves
> up various domains and 4 HTTPS sites concurrently. 3 of the HTTPS
> sites are the same IP and 1 is on a dedicated IP.
>
> Here is how I have it (domains and IP are removed)
>
> CentOS5 (Apache 2.1)
> /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf
>
> NameVirtualHost x.x.x.x:443
>
> <VirtualHost x.x.x.x:443>
> DocumentRoot /home/www/xxxxxx
> Servername xxxxxxxxx.uthscsa.edu
> ServerAdmin jeremy@xxxxxx.uthscsa.edu
> SSLEngine On
> SSLCertificateFile /etc/httpd/xxxxx/xxxxx.crt
> SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/httpd/xxxxxx/xxxxx.key
> </VirtualHost>
>
> Repeat for as many https domains you need and restart Apache
>

Jeremy,

You must be changing the port for each VirtualHost. I can get it working on
separate ports on the same IP, just not same port/same IP, such as
192.168.1.100:443 for both sites. The server has no way of knowing which
site to serve since the SSL encryption happens before the http header check
so name-based virtual hosting does not work for SSL on the same port/same
IP. Either the IP or the port have to be different.

By the way, your example is how my VirtualHost settings look in ssl.conf,
except with a different port for each one.

Brad,

You can have two certs on the same IP, just not same IP/same port. I have
both certs working when I go to each site (the second using the :4443
specifier in the URL). While researching this problem I came across many who
mentioned this, but it is working right now so I can confirm that is not the
case.

Henry,

What you suggested worked. I set up a RedirectCond in .htaccess on the site
at :443 to check {HTTP_HOST} and if it matched the host of the site on
:4443, then redirect to the second site. I was surprised SSL did not pick up
the certificate on the first site at :443 before passing the rewrite to the
second site. Or maybe it did but that step is invisible to the user. I'll
have to check the logs to see more.

The port number still shows in the URL on the second site, but at least
users can type in https://secure2.domain.com and be directed to
https://secure2.domain.com:4443 instead of https://secure1.domain.com.

Bruce,

The stombi site you linked to is word-for-word from apache docs, with the
exception of the last couple paragraphs. Those paragraphs helped me wrap my
brain around the issue better.

Thanks for the help everyone. Much appreciated.

Gabriel
From brad at shub-internet.org  Thu May 21 12:45:16 2009
From: brad at shub-internet.org (Brad Knowles)
Date: Thu May 21 12:45:22 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
In-Reply-To: <4A14E633.3000105@gmail.com>
References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>	<1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>	<4A148DAF.9030205@shub-internet.org>
	<4A14E633.3000105@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A15932C.305@shub-internet.org>

on 5/21/09 12:27 AM, Bruce Dubbs said:

> I haven't been following this closely, but it makes no sense for a cert 
> to be tied to an ip address.  It does make sense to be tied to a domain 
> name.  I know that openssl does not require a domain name when 
> generating a cert.  If it's a self signed cert (aka a certificate 
> authority), it certainly doesn't make sense to tie this to an ip address.

The problem is that the SSL certificate is sent before the client makes 
the request, so if you have more than one SSL certificate for a given IP 
address, the server won't know which cert to send.  Once the client gets 
the SSL cert, it can compare the domain in the cert against the domain 
claimed by the webserver, and issue a warning or error as appropriate.

Google for "one IP per ssl cert".

> So it's an apache/ssl issue.  Some googling gives:
> 
> http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Setting_up_an_SSL_server_with_Apache2 
> 
> http://www.stombi.net/blog/post/2005/07/14/30-apache2-multiple-ssl-virtual-hosts 
> 
> 
> Which explain the issue more.

Indeed, we are in violent agreement.  ;-)

-- 
Brad Knowles
<brad@shub-internet.org>        If you like Jazz/R&B guitar, check out
LinkedIn Profile:                 my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at
<http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>    http://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks
From brad at shub-internet.org  Thu May 21 12:55:10 2009
From: brad at shub-internet.org (Brad Knowles)
Date: Thu May 21 12:55:16 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Recommendations for a SAMBA/NAS device?
In-Reply-To: <869de8470905202032s5a9a53edu1df3fd1df7bc06db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <869de8470905202032s5a9a53edu1df3fd1df7bc06db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A15957E.2090902@shub-internet.org>

on 5/20/09 10:32 PM, FIRESTORM_v1 said:

> My thinking is that a low-powered machine, like an embedded system
> would do it nicely, but I want to make every effort I can to insure
> that the machine is as low-power as possible, and that the data on the
> array is preserved. I am thinking something like the Linksys NSLU2,
> but with one PCI slot instead of two USB ports, running off of flash
> or a laptop HDD in a Linux environment.

Most of your power usage is going to be in the spinning drives. 
Minimizing your other power usage isn't going to help you much.

But if you want a good SOHO NAS device, the best I know of is the 
Netgear ReadyNAS.  They have several models available, see 
<http://www.readynas.com/?cat=27>.

-- 
Brad Knowles
<brad@shub-internet.org>        If you like Jazz/R&B guitar, check out
LinkedIn Profile:                 my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at
<http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>    http://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks
From tweeks at rackspace.com  Thu May 21 13:54:31 2009
From: tweeks at rackspace.com (Tweeks)
Date: Thu May 21 13:50:17 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Re: [XCSSA] Recommendations for a SAMBA/NAS device?
In-Reply-To: <A71092D6-3D77-4736-B2C6-DED83654F937@moocowproductions.org>
References: <869de8470905202032s5a9a53edu1df3fd1df7bc06db@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905211055.42145.tweeks@rackspace.com>
	<A71092D6-3D77-4736-B2C6-DED83654F937@moocowproductions.org>
Message-ID: <200905211354.31945.tweeks@rackspace.com>

On Thursday 21 May 2009, X-otic Computer Systems of San Antonio wrote:
> Actually Tweeks, I disagree with you :)
>
> Drives consume what like 15W per drive (I'll have to look it up but I
> don't have much time as I'm in a break from training). You do not need
> a RAID card to spin the drives down, either. 'hdparm' should be able
> to take care of that, even on SATA drives.

Maybe if you're running SW-RAID.. (blech!)... but no workie on most hardware 
RAID systems man.  You typically can't send direct drive level commands to 
the individual drives (unless you have one of the few magic RAID cards out 
there that allows this AND/or the kernel module that allows for this).


> As for the CPU, modern procs chew up 100W of power. Even the low power
> modern chips hum away at 65W. So, it indeed makes sense to use a lower
> power CPU that draws 5-10W assuming that CPU is powerful enough for
> your application (which a NAS qualifies). Those chips also throw off
> far less heat (some can be totally cooled passively) which,
> indirectly, impacts your cooling bills.

Well.. even non-server grade (12-15W) drives in a large array (9 drives) is 
135Watts.  But "real drives" (e.g. 15k cheetah drives or Hitachi SATA) idle 
at  15W.. But when in full seek, this can pop up 20 22watts (x9 ~200watts!).

So yeah.. going to a low power proc is a good idea.. but spinning down drives 
not in use gets you more power savings.



> Similarly, software RAID is probably all you need. 

Blech!  Tim.. You are dead to me!  ;)


Tweeks
From gabriel.doss at gmail.com  Thu May 21 14:14:36 2009
From: gabriel.doss at gmail.com (Gabriel Doss)
Date: Thu May 21 14:14:40 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
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References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A148DAF.9030205@shub-internet.org> <4A14E633.3000105@gmail.com>
	<4A15932C.305@shub-internet.org>
Message-ID: <9f9a93640905211214y4deea0basb16b656fe6305663@mail.gmail.com>

Alright, I've done some more testing and here are my results. Hopefully they
will answer some lingering questions about the issue.

I wiped my saved certs from my browser for the two domains in question and
pointed my browser at https://secure2.domain.com.

The browser requested override for the certificate on
secure1.domain.com(reason: self-signed plus domain mismatch) and then
on redirect the override
request was made for the second certificate (reason: self-signed). In this
instance it is not a big deal since the sites in question are both intranet,
but certainly would lead to problems with public-facing domains.

Having two SSL certs on one IP is not a problem, provided they are on
different ports, and the secondary port is specified in the URL. I have
confirmed that if I clear my certs and point my browser at
https://secure2.domain.com:4443 the secure1.domain.com cert is never
requested.

So, to reach and not display the port number in the secure2.domain.com URL
(which was my original goal) it looks like I will need to split eth0 or
install a second NIC. Since I am in control of the hardware as well as root
access in this instance, not a problem.

Thanks again for the help,

Gabriel
From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Thu May 21 14:28:46 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Thu May 21 14:28:48 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
In-Reply-To: <9f9a93640905211214y4deea0basb16b656fe6305663@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>	<1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>	<4A148DAF.9030205@shub-internet.org>
	<4A14E633.3000105@gmail.com>	<4A15932C.305@shub-internet.org>
	<9f9a93640905211214y4deea0basb16b656fe6305663@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A15AB6E.80600@gmail.com>

Gabriel Doss wrote:

> So, to reach and not display the port number in the secure2.domain.com URL
> (which was my original goal) it looks like I will need to split eth0 or
> install a second NIC. Since I am in control of the hardware as well as root
> access in this instance, not a problem.

A second nic is not necessary.  A single nic can bind to multiple ip addresses.

   -- Bruce
From gabriel.doss at gmail.com  Thu May 21 14:37:18 2009
From: gabriel.doss at gmail.com (Gabriel Doss)
Date: Thu May 21 14:37:20 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
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On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gabriel Doss wrote:
>
>  So, to reach and not display the port number in the secure2.domain.comURL
>> (which was my original goal) it looks like I will need to split eth0 or
>> install a second NIC. Since I am in control of the hardware as well as
>> root
>> access in this instance, not a problem.
>>
>
> A second nic is not necessary.  A single nic can bind to multiple ip
> addresses.
>
>  -- Bruce


Correct. I was just stating the possibilities, though probably unnecessarily
so. I have been known to go into unnecessary detail. :)

Gabriel
From pjcrux at gmail.com  Thu May 21 14:53:14 2009
From: pjcrux at gmail.com (Peter Cross)
Date: Thu May 21 14:53:23 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
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glad to know someone else suffers from the same affliction!

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Gabriel Doss <gabriel.doss@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Gabriel Doss wrote:
> >
> >  So, to reach and not display the port number in the
> secure2.domain.comURL
> >> (which was my original goal) it looks like I will need to split eth0 or
> >> install a second NIC. Since I am in control of the hardware as well as
> >> root
> >> access in this instance, not a problem.
> >>
> >
> > A second nic is not necessary.  A single nic can bind to multiple ip
> > addresses.
> >
> >  -- Bruce
>
>
> Correct. I was just stating the possibilities, though probably
> unnecessarily
> so. I have been known to go into unnecessary detail. :)
>
> Gabriel
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From afcasta at satx.rr.com  Thu May 21 15:27:39 2009
From: afcasta at satx.rr.com (Al Castanoli)
Date: Thu May 21 15:27:44 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
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	<1242828133.3288.5.camel@picotriffid>
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On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 20:49 -0500, Robert Pearson wrote:
> On 5/20/09, Herb Cee <hc@lookcee.com> wrote:
> > Al Castanoli wrote:
> >
> > > I think that depends on the implementation - the MacPup 412 version
> > > seems fairly tidy.  The netbook remix I mentioned in the post you quoted
> > > isn't running compiz-fusion, but rather has a very simple window
> > > manager.
> > >
> > > Al Castanoli
> > >
> > >
> >  Al, FYI Cheryl has an AMD P4 desktop, I think a 1.2G and she has recently
> > upgraded memory to 1.5GB (3x512mb) She has a 19"LCD monitor. She is used to
> > operating the U-8.04 and was happy with it.  As I understood she said 'yes'
> > to the auto upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 by mistake thinking it was just an
> > update, unfortunately the upgrade failed. Alex says her HD is totally
> > scrambled. I have an extra 60GB HD that I am mailing to her but my first
> > chance to get to town will be the 2nd of next mo. After Alex gets her back
> > running she will have some backup.
> >  herb
> >  --
> 
> Herb,
> Good to hear from you.
> This might be a good plan for Cheryl. Ubuntu 8.04 is a planned "Long
> term support releases only". Might be years before an upgrade is
> required.
> 
> My experience after my "upgrade" from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 is it blew
> up the same way as Cheryl's and I spent several hours trying to fix it
> before I gave up. FYI, I reinstalled 8.04 on that machine, did all the
> updates, etc. and tried the 8.04 to 9.04 "upgrade" and it blew up as
> well. The upgrades from 8.04 to 8.10 worked fine. After I waited for
> 8.10 to stabilize. For some strange reason Kubuntu 8.04 upgraded to
> 9.04 without a hitch but I can't stand the Kubuntu 9.04 KDE.
> 
> I would still be running Ubuntu 8.04 but I noticed I wasn't getting
> many updates. My other OS's were getting almost daily updates. I
> researched why Ubuntu 8.04 wasn't getting updates, found out and
> changed the "System > Administration > Software Sources > Updates >
> Release upgrade" from "Long term support releases only" to "Normal
> releases". That did it. Somehow Cheryl's got changed. Not a good thing
> for most users. They should be set for "Long term support releases
> only".
> 
> Bottom line, Ubuntu 9.04 installed from CD without a hitch and works
> flawlessly on my old P4 and AMD. It seems much faster than 8.04.
> Kubuntu 9.04 also work and seems faster than 8.04 but I can't get
> comfortable with the KDE it comes with.
> 
> How's your blood pressure?
> 
> Robert

Last question first - 120/80 this morning at the VA clinic, but I don't
like the latest KDE versions, either.  When Miguel Figueroa and I set up
KDE 1.0 on SuSE from sources (because the rpm's were buggy) at an early
SATLUG meeting at Trinity University, we all thought it was a great
alternative to CDE.  It seems the Version 4 series is trying to compete
with Windows, though, and KDE looks to be less user friendly.

Thanks for clarifying, Robert.  I was under the mistaken impression that
she was using a laptop computer.  I doubt the netbook remix would make
much sense on a desktop computer.

I have one desktop still running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and don't want to
change that because it works great as my home network file server.  It's
currently using an el cheapo Westinghouse 19 inch LCD and I don't see a
need to change that. I remember Synaptic asking if I wanted to upgrade
it to 9.04, but I wasn't interested, and can understand the confusion
when the first upgrades the tool asks for are usually security updates.
The offer to upgrade to Jaunty Jackalope showed up before the security
updates.

Al Castanoli

From hc at lookcee.com  Thu May 21 16:49:24 2009
From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee)
Date: Thu May 21 16:49:32 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <1242937659.3457.16.camel@picotriffid>
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Al Castanoli wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 20:49 -0500, Robert Pearson wrote:
>   
>> On 5/20/09, Herb Cee <hc@lookcee.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Al Castanoli wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I think that depends on the implementation - the MacPup 412 version
>>>> seems fairly tidy.  The netbook remix I mentioned in the post you quoted
>>>> isn't running compiz-fusion, but rather has a very simple window
>>>> manager.
>>>>
>>>> Al Castanoli
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>  Al, FYI Cheryl has an AMD P4 desktop, I think a 1.2G and she has recently
>>> upgraded memory to 1.5GB (3x512mb) She has a 19"LCD monitor. She is used to
>>> operating the U-8.04 and was happy with it.  As I understood she said 'yes'
>>> to the auto upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 by mistake thinking it was just an
>>> update, unfortunately the upgrade failed. Alex says her HD is totally
>>> scrambled. I have an extra 60GB HD that I am mailing to her but my first
>>> chance to get to town will be the 2nd of next mo. After Alex gets her back
>>> running she will have some backup.
>>>  herb
>>>  --
>>>       
>> Herb,
>> Good to hear from you.
>> This might be a good plan for Cheryl. Ubuntu 8.04 is a planned "Long
>> term support releases only". Might be years before an upgrade is
>> required.
>>
>> My experience after my "upgrade" from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 is it blew
>> up the same way as Cheryl's and I spent several hours trying to fix it
>> before I gave up. FYI, I reinstalled 8.04 on that machine, did all the
>> updates, etc. and tried the 8.04 to 9.04 "upgrade" and it blew up as
>> well. The upgrades from 8.04 to 8.10 worked fine. After I waited for
>> 8.10 to stabilize. For some strange reason Kubuntu 8.04 upgraded to
>> 9.04 without a hitch but I can't stand the Kubuntu 9.04 KDE.
>>
>> I would still be running Ubuntu 8.04 but I noticed I wasn't getting
>> many updates. My other OS's were getting almost daily updates. I
>> researched why Ubuntu 8.04 wasn't getting updates, found out and
>> changed the "System > Administration > Software Sources > Updates >
>> Release upgrade" from "Long term support releases only" to "Normal
>> releases". That did it. Somehow Cheryl's got changed. Not a good thing
>> for most users. They should be set for "Long term support releases
>> only".
>>
>> Bottom line, Ubuntu 9.04 installed from CD without a hitch and works
>> flawlessly on my old P4 and AMD. It seems much faster than 8.04.
>> Kubuntu 9.04 also work and seems faster than 8.04 but I can't get
>> comfortable with the KDE it comes with.
>>
>> How's your blood pressure?
>>
>> Robert
>>     
>
> Last question first - 120/80 this morning at the VA clinic, but I don't
> like the latest KDE versions, either.  When Miguel Figueroa and I set up
> KDE 1.0 on SuSE from sources (because the rpm's were buggy) at an early
> SATLUG meeting at Trinity University, we all thought it was a great
> alternative to CDE.  It seems the Version 4 series is trying to compete
> with Windows, though, and KDE looks to be less user friendly.
>
> Thanks for clarifying, Robert.  I was under the mistaken impression that
> she was using a laptop computer.  I doubt the netbook remix would make
> much sense on a desktop computer.
>
> I have one desktop still running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and don't want to
> change that because it works great as my home network file server.  It's
> currently using an el cheapo Westinghouse 19 inch LCD and I don't see a
> need to change that. I remember Synaptic asking if I wanted to upgrade
> it to 9.04, but I wasn't interested, and can understand the confusion
> when the first upgrades the tool asks for are usually security updates.
> The offer to upgrade to Jaunty Jackalope showed up before the security
> updates.
>
> Al Castanoli
>
>   
Yeah Al it was just that confusion along with her really bad eysight 
that led to her grief and since like myself she under house arrest by 
medical probs. Very good BP BTW I have to monitor mide and use herbs to 
keep it in just that range and I take action when I get a 135/80 reading 
altho doc says under 145/90 is fine for 80yrs.
Anyway thanks for your interest I only know Cheryl from this list but 
know she is on SSI and her Meds expense keeps her broke.

If you remember several mos back she thought she needed to upgrade her 
P4 and asked for help I jumped in and got to know her cause her complete 
budget was the $250 stim that she just received few days before the 
crash. I found her answer was just to max out mem and make some other 
small adjustment and she was just getting happy cause going from 390mb 
to 1.5 gig did it for her I sent her one stick of 512 that I had unused 
and that boosted her enough so she bought 2 more sticks and had just got 
it running when the cyber gods threw a bolt. I gonna send her this extra 
HD I have with 8.04 desktop loaded and a cd to go with it so that at 
least she can boot from diff HD if a crash happens and can then maybe 
get fixed using Email. like now the window to Cheryl's world is 
shuttered. I know living alone and remote how important that window is 
so sad trip.


I kept your note tho on that idea and I may give it a try to see if it 
makes a diff to a desktop[.
Herb up in Bedias TX
From scs at worldlinkisp.com  Thu May 21 17:51:05 2009
From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com)
Date: Thu May 21 17:51:07 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <957c9ff48f01410ca5ab8195e5188b5d.scs@worldlinkisp.com>


I have with 8.04 desktop loaded and a cd to go with it so that at 
least she can boot from diff HD if a crash happens and can then maybe 
get fixed using Email. like now the window to Cheryl's world is 
shuttered. I know living alone and remote how important that window is 
so sad trip.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
As I mentioned last week at the onset, she needs  to keep a "Live CD" 
on hand, this way she can still get on-line...Also, a Live CD is handy for 
trouble shooting and verifying HW/SW problems..

The second HD is a good idea, all my desktops are dual HD

Lou



From hc at lookcee.com  Thu May 21 18:52:27 2009
From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee)
Date: Thu May 21 18:52:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <957c9ff48f01410ca5ab8195e5188b5d.scs@worldlinkisp.com>
References: <957c9ff48f01410ca5ab8195e5188b5d.scs@worldlinkisp.com>
Message-ID: <4A15E93B.1010102@lookcee.com>

scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote:
> I have with 8.04 desktop loaded and a cd to go with it so that at 
> least she can boot from diff HD if a crash happens and can then maybe 
> get fixed using Email. like now the window to Cheryl's world is 
> shuttered. I know living alone and remote how important that window is 
> so sad trip.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> As I mentioned last week at the onset, she needs  to keep a "Live CD" 
> on hand, this way she can still get on-line...Also, a Live CD is handy for 
> trouble shooting and verifying HW/SW problems..
>
> The second HD is a good idea, all my desktops are dual HD
>
> Lou
>   

I certainly agree Lou but she is where she is in learning Linux she is a 
very sharp lady but not a programmer nor systems IT training. Just got 
sick of WinBS-OS and switched. This list has helped her survive so far 
and no one has ever walked her tru anything like this. I hope Alex can 
give her a few quick tips he said he was gonna leave a live CD with her 
when he gets her data saved and her sys restored. She is a gutsy person 
to even take care of herself under the conditions. Bless Alex heart for 
helping her. Ya know it's just this situ that makes this list very special.
Alex take a bow.
Herb

>
>
>   

From cdv7 at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 21 18:54:41 2009
From: cdv7 at sbcglobal.net (cdv7@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu May 21 18:54:45 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] New user requests advice.
Message-ID: <4A15E9C1.1090502@sbcglobal.net>

Greetings,
Before I attempt to switch from DSL to Dial Up I need to know several 
things:

1. When I first tried to connect to the Internet in 2005 (I had Windows 
then) I tried several Dial Up ISP's but could never make a connection. I 
was told the wiring is too old. (My house was built pre- 1950's but was 
remodeled during the 1980's , some of the wiring was changed then.) How 
should I address this possible problem? I hope its resolution will not 
be prohibitively expensive.

2.  It has been recommended that I first update to the newest version of 
Ubuntu but I am unclear about the recent crash of Ms. Holmes. I am 
concerned I may have a similar experience, as I would not know how to 
avoid it.

3. I need to know how to transfer all my e-mail -not just my Inbox but 
my Drafts and Sent boxes too. (I ran into this problem when I transfered 
from Suse to Ubuntu.) I transfered the contents of my desktop by putting 
them on a flash drive. However, some of the e-mail (such as the Drafts 
Box) was transferred one message at a time. Please tell me if there is a 
more efficient way to do this.

Also,if there are other important things I need to know before I make 
the switch, please let me know.
Thank you very much for your assistance.
~ cdv



From satlug at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 21 19:27:45 2009
From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright)
Date: Thu May 21 19:27:47 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Apache with 1 IP, two SSL sites, different ports
In-Reply-To: <7c63fb3d0905211253k278b89a6yfd07c7f82ddfa433@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9f9a93640905201359r74445586red49e5432661466d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1003aeaa0905201537g67f90662u996a14d1a26d54f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A148DAF.9030205@shub-internet.org>
	<4A14E633.3000105@gmail.com> <4A15932C.305@shub-internet.org>
	<9f9a93640905211214y4deea0basb16b656fe6305663@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A15AB6E.80600@gmail.com>
	<9f9a93640905211237u7cb70d6dy6406422be4e72bce@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c63fb3d0905211253k278b89a6yfd07c7f82ddfa433@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9uqb155mt5h11noc1nvs3vttct5lg5d3gi@4ax.com>

Suffer? I enjoy all 525,600 minutes per year (527,040 on leap years) of
it!  --Don

Peter Cross <pjcrux@gmail.com> wrote:
>glad to know someone else suffers from the same affliction!

>Gabriel Doss <gabriel.doss@gmail.com>wrote:
>> ... I have been known to go into unnecessary detail. :)

-- 
We're headed for a Quantum Collapse!
From hc at lookcee.com  Thu May 21 19:30:54 2009
From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee)
Date: Thu May 21 19:30:56 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] New user requests advice.
In-Reply-To: <4A15E9C1.1090502@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A15E9C1.1090502@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4A15F23E.9040109@lookcee.com>

cdv7@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Greetings,
> Before I attempt to switch from DSL to Dial Up I need to know several 
> things:
>
> 1. When I first tried to connect to the Internet in 2005 (I had 
> Windows then) I tried several Dial Up ISP's but could never make a 
> connection. I was told the wiring is too old. (My house was built pre- 
> 1950's but was remodeled during the 1980's , some of the wiring was 
> changed then.) How should I address this possible problem? I hope its 
> resolution will not be prohibitively expensive.

Hello cdv7 .... welll sounds BS to me a wire is a wire is a wire and if 
your DSL is clear so will that line be clear dialing an ISP I have DSL 
lowest possible speed and I can dial up on the same line just get 44bps 
rather than 170bps. You should not have to do anything.

>
> 2.  It has been recommended that I first update to the newest version 
> of Ubuntu but I am unclear about the recent crash of Ms. Holmes. I am 
> concerned I may have a similar experience, as I would not know how to 
> avoid it.

Ok yes the latest versions of Ubuntu ie 9.04 has better drivers in many 
cases and this may be one you can google an find out I do it fine on 
8.04 that is the long term support release good fo auto upgrades another 
2yrs. Your answer here really depends on what your puter is used for. 
Cheryl's problem was she has only about 10% normal vision and she was 
tired and misread the auto upgrade thinking it was simply another 
security or bug fix update that is issued almost daily. I took Tweeks 
advice 2yrs ago and do not do the online updates instead buy a CD for 
3-4 bucks and install from there I have gone from 5,04 to *.04 with 
never a prob and alsonever had a problem with upgrades every few days. 
as long as you have the live CD you can boot from it and run even with a 
crashed HD.

>
> 3. I need to know how to transfer all my e-mail -not just my Inbox but 
> my Drafts and Sent boxes too. (I ran into this problem when I 
> transfered from Suse to Ubuntu.) I transfered the contents of my 
> desktop by putting them on a flash drive. However, some of the e-mail 
> (such as the Drafts Box) was transferred one message at a time. Please 
> tell me if there is a more efficient way to do this.
>
> Also,if there are other important things I need to know before I make 
> the switch, please let me know.
> Thank you very much for your assistance.

Can't help on #3 cause there are many EM clients I suggest googling the 
two you have in mind and find out ahead what is necessary to transfer data.
Herb

> ~ cdv
>
>
>

From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Thu May 21 20:53:32 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Thu May 21 20:53:35 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <467608.36142.qm@web55603.mail.re4.yahoo.com>



--- On Thu, 5/21/09, Herb Cee <hc@lookcee.com> wrote:

> From: Herb Cee <hc@lookcee.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 6:52 PM
> scs@worldlinkisp.com
> wrote:
> > I have with 8.04 desktop loaded and a cd to go with it
> so that at least she can boot from diff HD if a crash
> happens and can then maybe get fixed using Email. like now
> the window to Cheryl's world is shuttered. I know living
> alone and remote how important that window is so sad trip.
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > As I mentioned last week at the onset, she needs?
> to keep a "Live CD" on hand, this way she can still get
> on-line...Also, a Live CD is handy for trouble shooting and
> verifying HW/SW problems..
> > 
> > The second HD is a good idea, all my desktops are dual
> HD
> > 
> > Lou

I sent this to just Todd on accident.. so I'll paraphrase what I said since my reply was from my phone.

Basically I'm not going to install anything other than Ubuntu because thats what she's used to.  Its going slow because this week I've had alot going on with my son (school activities) and he lives in Austin.  I will install 8.04 tonight.

-Alex


      
From brad at shub-internet.org  Thu May 21 21:11:35 2009
From: brad at shub-internet.org (Brad Knowles)
Date: Thu May 21 21:11:40 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SMB computer & networking consultant in SA?
Message-ID: <4A1609D7.1060901@shub-internet.org>

Folks,

A friend of mine has a business that has their HQ here in Austin, but 
they have a satellite office in San Antonio.  They've been using a 
particular consulting company for a while, and they're just not happy 
with how much they've been paying and for so little return.

I'm glad to help them out, and I can cover the Austin office, at least 
until they get things working reasonably well again.  I can even come 
down to San Antonio and do some occasional work there on the weekends, 
etc....  However, what I can't do is be in two places at once.

For the long-term, I'd like to find a good SMB computer & network 
consulting firm in San Antonio, and ideally one that could also cover 
Austin as well.  Nothing too big here, just a business class DSL or 
cable modem for the office, a SOHO router with VPN and wireless, maybe a 
little VOIP in the future, etc....


Does anyone on the list know of any such consulting companies in the area?

Thanks!

-- 
Brad Knowles
<brad@shub-internet.org>        If you like Jazz/R&B guitar, check out
LinkedIn Profile:                 my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at
<http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>    http://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks
From cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com  Thu May 21 21:08:57 2009
From: cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com (Charles Hogan)
Date: Thu May 21 21:18:23 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] New user requests advice.
In-Reply-To: <4A15E9C1.1090502@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A15E9C1.1090502@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4A160939.9010708@futuretechsolutions.com>

1. When I worked as tech support for a dial-up ISP back in the late 
90's, 2 of the biggest problems we had with connections were incorrect 
line polarity and poor line quality.  For the polarity issues, I carried 
a line tester and would correct the issue at the jack if it were 
present, (some modems are/were sensitive to phone line polarity, this 
was my first, and often times only, corrective action).  Altex has a 
couple of line testers*, both under $10.00.

As for line quality, well, that can run the gambit.  I remember 1 
customer that couldn't connect no matter what.  I plugged a phone into 
the jack they were using for the computer, and could barely hear the 
dial tone over the static on the line.  Customer's reasoning, "We use 
that jack for the computer because we can't hear who we are talking to 
if we use it for the phone", sometimes you just want to slap the 
stupidity out of people.  Plugged them into a different jack in the 
house, and surprise surprise, no problems connecting or staying 
connected.  No surprise that they didn't like my pricing for running new 
wire to the jack, so fortunately, they were left to their own devices on 
figuring that one out.  We had another customer with line quality 
issues, no static, but a bad line, where someone digging had cut through 
the phone lines, and the splice putting them back together was done 
poorly.  That was a telco issue somewhere up the line on their side of 
the demarc.

If you are unable to connect, and suspect line quality issues, try 
plugging straight into the demarc if you can, and see if you can get a 
connection from there.  If so, you will probably want to run a new line 
from the demarc to wherever you are plugging the computer to the phone 
jack.  I doubt that there will be any issues with that if you are able 
to currently get DSL through the line.

2. Can't help with that one, as I am a Fedora user.  I am sure that 
someone else here can help with that.

3. It would be helpful to know what e-mail client you are using.

*line testers at Altex:
http://www.altex.com/Triplett-Line-Bug-4-Phone-LAN-Line-Tester-9615-P145000.aspx
http://www.altex.com/Telephone-Line-Tester-75-4650-P143540.aspx

Hope this was of some help.  I'm off to my new weekly habit of drinks 
and jazz at The Landing.

Charlie

cdv7@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Greetings,
> Before I attempt to switch from DSL to Dial Up I need to know several 
> things:
> 
> 1. When I first tried to connect to the Internet in 2005 (I had Windows 
> then) I tried several Dial Up ISP's but could never make a connection. I 
> was told the wiring is too old. (My house was built pre- 1950's but was 
> remodeled during the 1980's , some of the wiring was changed then.) How 
> should I address this possible problem? I hope its resolution will not 
> be prohibitively expensive.
> 
> 2.  It has been recommended that I first update to the newest version of 
> Ubuntu but I am unclear about the recent crash of Ms. Holmes. I am 
> concerned I may have a similar experience, as I would not know how to 
> avoid it.
> 
> 3. I need to know how to transfer all my e-mail -not just my Inbox but 
> my Drafts and Sent boxes too. (I ran into this problem when I transfered 
> from Suse to Ubuntu.) I transfered the contents of my desktop by putting 
> them on a flash drive. However, some of the e-mail (such as the Drafts 
> Box) was transferred one message at a time. Please tell me if there is a 
> more efficient way to do this.
> 
> Also,if there are other important things I need to know before I make 
> the switch, please let me know.
> Thank you very much for your assistance.
> ~ cdv
> 
> 
> 
From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Thu May 21 21:26:57 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Thu May 21 21:26:59 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Interesting (good) Linux News
Message-ID: <776617.331.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


I think thats great.  I didnt RTA but they should have all the basics covered otherwise people will wipe linux and put windows.  (media player that plays movies and mp3's, office suite, etc)

--- On Thu, 5/21/09, Howard Haradon <hharadon@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Howard Haradon <hharadon@gmail.com>
> Subject: [SATLUG] Interesting (good) Linux News
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 12:10 PM
> Saw this on CW online.
> 
> "IDG News Service -? In an effort to counter the
> growing dominance of
> Microsoft's
> Windows OS in netbooks, Intel on Tuesday announced a beta
> version of a Linux OS
> it has developed for low-cost laptops and mobile devices."
> 
> Full article:
> 
> <http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9133279&source=CWNLE_nlt_dailyam_2009-05-20>
> 
> HH
> -- 
> Howard Haradon
> San Antonio, TX? USA
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From jehaywood at gmail.com  Thu May 21 23:27:42 2009
From: jehaywood at gmail.com (Jennie Haywood)
Date: Thu May 21 23:27:47 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Dell Mini 10 with Ubuntu!
Message-ID: <d92eb230905212127w47c41033idc963ddf20d94593@mail.gmail.com>

I don't remember seeing anyone mention this Dell mini that I just saw in the
Dell 25th Anniversary Sale flyer I got in the mail today.
Has anyone seen or used this Dell??


-- 
Jennie Haywood
----
Everyone is crazy. It's just a matter of degree.
--
The oak tree in your backyard is just a nut that held its ground.
From gwillden at gmail.com  Fri May 22 13:33:50 2009
From: gwillden at gmail.com (Greg Willden)
Date: Fri May 22 13:33:55 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Dell Mini 10 with Ubuntu!
In-Reply-To: <d92eb230905212127w47c41033idc963ddf20d94593@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d92eb230905212127w47c41033idc963ddf20d94593@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <345e55a50905221133w6baf0a44v3766f6b048c9641d@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a nice video of 3 Dell Mini 10v computers.
One with Dell's version of linux, one with Ubuntu and one with
Google's Android OS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HliEujxRoYQ

Greg


On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Jennie Haywood <jehaywood@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't remember seeing anyone mention this Dell mini that I just saw in the
> Dell 25th Anniversary Sale flyer I got in the mail today.
> Has anyone seen or used this Dell??
>
>
> --
> Jennie Haywood
> ----
> Everyone is crazy. It's just a matter of degree.
> --
> The oak tree in your backyard is just a nut that held its ground.
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
>



-- 
To know recursion, you must first know recursion.
From jehaywood at gmail.com  Fri May 22 15:00:50 2009
From: jehaywood at gmail.com (Jennie Haywood)
Date: Fri May 22 15:00:52 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Dell Mini 10 with Ubuntu!
In-Reply-To: <345e55a50905221133w6baf0a44v3766f6b048c9641d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d92eb230905212127w47c41033idc963ddf20d94593@mail.gmail.com>
	<345e55a50905221133w6baf0a44v3766f6b048c9641d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d92eb230905221300l96f5db6s8a9fd3ae96d301cf@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Greg Willden <gwillden@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is a nice video of 3 Dell Mini 10v computers.
> One with Dell's version of linux, one with Ubuntu and one with
> Google's Android OS.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HliEujxRoYQ
>
> Greg
>
>

Thanks Greg!  That's a nice video......


-- 
Jennie Haywood
----
Everyone is crazy. It's just a matter of degree.
--
The oak tree in your backyard is just a nut that held its ground.
From jtiner at satx.rr.com  Fri May 22 15:54:07 2009
From: jtiner at satx.rr.com (James Tiner)
Date: Fri May 22 15:54:10 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SMB computer & networking consultant in SA?
In-Reply-To: <4A1609D7.1060901@shub-internet.org>
References: <4A1609D7.1060901@shub-internet.org>
Message-ID: <1243025647.19880.0.camel@james-desktop>

Brad,

If you'd like, you can contact me off list. I can even offer references.


On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 21:11 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> A friend of mine has a business that has their HQ here in Austin, but 
> they have a satellite office in San Antonio.  They've been using a 
> particular consulting company for a while, and they're just not happy 
> with how much they've been paying and for so little return.
> 
> I'm glad to help them out, and I can cover the Austin office, at least 
> until they get things working reasonably well again.  I can even come 
> down to San Antonio and do some occasional work there on the weekends, 
> etc....  However, what I can't do is be in two places at once.
> 
> For the long-term, I'd like to find a good SMB computer & network 
> consulting firm in San Antonio, and ideally one that could also cover 
> Austin as well.  Nothing too big here, just a business class DSL or 
> cable modem for the office, a SOHO router with VPN and wireless, maybe a 
> little VOIP in the future, etc....
> 
> 
> Does anyone on the list know of any such consulting companies in the area?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Brad Knowles
> <brad@shub-internet.org>        If you like Jazz/R&B guitar, check out
> LinkedIn Profile:                 my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at
> <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>    http://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks

From jtiner at satx.rr.com  Fri May 22 15:56:45 2009
From: jtiner at satx.rr.com (James Tiner)
Date: Fri May 22 15:56:48 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Dell Mini 10 with Ubuntu!
In-Reply-To: <d92eb230905221300l96f5db6s8a9fd3ae96d301cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d92eb230905212127w47c41033idc963ddf20d94593@mail.gmail.com>
	<345e55a50905221133w6baf0a44v3766f6b048c9641d@mail.gmail.com>
	<d92eb230905221300l96f5db6s8a9fd3ae96d301cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243025805.19880.2.camel@james-desktop>

Steven Vaughn-Nichols really likes the new Latitude Netbook with Linux.

http://blogs.computerworld.com/a_for_dells_new_ubuntu_linux_netbook


On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 15:00 -0500, Jennie Haywood wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Greg Willden <gwillden@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Here is a nice video of 3 Dell Mini 10v computers.
> > One with Dell's version of linux, one with Ubuntu and one with
> > Google's Android OS.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HliEujxRoYQ
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> 
> Thanks Greg!  That's a nice video......
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jennie Haywood
> ----
> Everyone is crazy. It's just a matter of degree.
> --
> The oak tree in your backyard is just a nut that held its ground.

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Fri May 22 19:42:12 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Fri May 22 19:42:15 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] help with webadmin and a scheduled chron job
Message-ID: <1243039332.25504.9.camel@redpill-laptop>

I wrote a nifty little script that runs various sytem reports and
outputs the data to a html document.  I know that the code is good as I
have tested it several times at the command line.  I am using webadmin
for most of my administrative tasks on my home server and am therefore
trying to set the job to run daily at midnight under the Scheduled Chron
Jobs tab.  Problem is when I test the command
"~/scripts/system_report.sh"  I get the following output:
"Output from command /home/redpill-master/scripts/system_report.sh ..
TERM environment variable not set."

can someone point me in the right direction? 

thanks
Todd

From jdchoate at gmail.com  Fri May 22 20:19:55 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Fri May 22 20:20:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] help with webadmin and a scheduled chron job
In-Reply-To: <1243039332.25504.9.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <1243039332.25504.9.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <200905222019.55518.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Friday 22 May 2009 19:42:12 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> I wrote a nifty little script that runs various sytem reports and
> outputs the data to a html document.  I know that the code is good as I
> have tested it several times at the command line.  I am using webadmin
> for most of my administrative tasks on my home server and am therefore
> trying to set the job to run daily at midnight under the Scheduled Chron
> Jobs tab.  Problem is when I test the command
> "~/scripts/system_report.sh"  I get the following output:
> "Output from command /home/redpill-master/scripts/system_report.sh ..
> TERM environment variable not set."
> 
> can someone point me in the right direction? 
> 
> thanks
> Todd
> 
> 

I did the exact same thing on a server for my boss. I am not sure about the 'TERM environment variable not set.' error. But in webmin, I did set the script to be run as root from a user directory. 
In addition to the text files generated by the script, I also made other text files which have comments to precede each result. I had used asciidoc to translate the results into html, but the formatting sucked. So I made a couple of text files with the html headers and closing code. Everything is stitched together with cat and then copied to html.

#!/bin/bash
iptables=/sbin/iptables
uname -a | cat > /var/www/html/up02b.txt;uptime | cat > /var/www/html/up03b.txt;cat /proc/meminfo > /var/www/html/up03d.txt;mpstat | cat > /var/www/html/up04b.txt;iostat | cat > /var/www/html/up05b.txt;pidstat | cat > /var/www/html/up06b.txt;$iptables -L -v -n | cat > /var/www/html/up07b.txt;cat /var/www/html/up0*.txt > /var/www/html/uptime.txt;cp -rf /var/www/html/uptime.txt /var/www/html/uptime.html
#;asciidoc /var/www/html/uptime.txt

I hope something here helps.
From jdchoate at gmail.com  Fri May 22 20:28:03 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Fri May 22 20:36:34 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] help with webadmin and a scheduled chron job
In-Reply-To: <1243039332.25504.9.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <1243039332.25504.9.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <200905222028.03359.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Friday 22 May 2009 19:42:12 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> I wrote a nifty little script that runs various sytem reports and
> outputs the data to a html document.  I know that the code is good as I
> have tested it several times at the command line.  I am using webadmin
> for most of my administrative tasks on my home server and am therefore
> trying to set the job to run daily at midnight under the Scheduled Chron
> Jobs tab.  Problem is when I test the command
> "~/scripts/system_report.sh"  I get the following output:
> "Output from command /home/redpill-master/scripts/system_report.sh ..
> TERM environment variable not set."
> 
> can someone point me in the right direction? 
> 
> thanks
> Todd
> 
> 

On second thought, did you include the following at the beginning of your script?

#!/bin/bash

That may be it.
From storey at clamp.ws  Sat May 23 08:05:09 2009
From: storey at clamp.ws (Storey Clamp)
Date: Sat May 23 08:05:33 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SMB computer & networking consultant in SA?
In-Reply-To: <4A1609D7.1060901@shub-internet.org>
References: <4A1609D7.1060901@shub-internet.org>
Message-ID: <4A17F485.1030703@clamp.ws>

Brad Knowles wrote:
> Folks,
>
> A friend of mine has a business that has their HQ here in Austin, but 
> they have a satellite office in San Antonio.  They've been using a 
> particular consulting company for a while, and they're just not happy 
> with how much they've been paying and for so little return.
>
> I'm glad to help them out, and I can cover the Austin office, at least 
> until they get things working reasonably well again.  I can even come 
> down to San Antonio and do some occasional work there on the weekends, 
> etc....  However, what I can't do is be in two places at once.
>
> For the long-term, I'd like to find a good SMB computer & network 
> consulting firm in San Antonio, and ideally one that could also cover 
> Austin as well.  Nothing too big here, just a business class DSL or 
> cable modem for the office, a SOHO router with VPN and wireless, maybe 
> a little VOIP in the future, etc....
>
>
> Does anyone on the list know of any such consulting companies in the 
> area?
>
> Thanks!
>
Hi Brad,
    I would like to recommend the company I work for, Bridgehead 
Networks in San Antonio,
http://bridgeheadnetworks.com  .

Cheers, Storey Clamp

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Sat May 23 08:21:56 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Sat May 23 08:22:00 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] help with webadmin and a scheduled chron job
In-Reply-To: <200905222028.03359.jdchoate@gmail.com>
References: <1243039332.25504.9.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<200905222028.03359.jdchoate@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243084916.3946.4.camel@redpill-laptop>

#!/bin/bash is there of course.  As I said before the script runs great
from the command line I just want it to run on a daily basis at a
specific time.

Todd

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 20:28 -0500, John D Choate wrote:
> On Friday 22 May 2009 19:42:12 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> > I wrote a nifty little script that runs various sytem reports and
> > outputs the data to a html document.  I know that the code is good as I
> > have tested it several times at the command line.  I am using webadmin
> > for most of my administrative tasks on my home server and am therefore
> > trying to set the job to run daily at midnight under the Scheduled Chron
> > Jobs tab.  Problem is when I test the command
> > "~/scripts/system_report.sh"  I get the following output:
> > "Output from command /home/redpill-master/scripts/system_report.sh ..
> > TERM environment variable not set."
> > 
> > can someone point me in the right direction? 
> > 
> > thanks
> > Todd
> > 
> > 
> 
> On second thought, did you include the following at the beginning of your script?
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> That may be it.

From jeremymann at gmail.com  Sat May 23 09:54:27 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Sat May 23 09:54:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] rmmod and insmod commands
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <79ec289f0905230754o14b411bag8b06f9a377dfda4e@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael <mmorse757@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am trying to install a video card that is not being automatically
> detected. ?Following some directions I googled, after making changes to
> my /etc/modprobe.d/options file, I am supposed to issue the following
> commands:
>
> rmmod saa7134-alsa
> rmmod saa7134
> insmod saa7134.ko card=<card number> ?{where <card number is an actual
> number, 1 - 125.}
> insmod saa7134-also.ko
>
> This is supposed to be instead of rebooting the computer. ?However, I
> get a "module in use error" when I try to issue the rmmode command. ?I
> also tried the command modeprobe -r but I get the same "module in use
> error."
>
> So, I guess me question is, I do I stop and restart the module?

MIchael, that is a soundcard module not a video card, but to remove
them you need to find what other modules are using that device. Since
it is a soundcard, I'd start with the snd-* modules and work your way
down.



-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Sat May 23 10:17:59 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Sat May 23 10:18:02 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] rmmod and insmod commands
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP4542824B3E39D4769C68F1E8570@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>
	<79ec289f0905230754o14b411bag8b06f9a377dfda4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP4542824B3E39D4769C68F1E8570@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1243091879.4144.1.camel@redpill-laptop>

to start

sudo modprobe <module>

to remove
 
sudo rmmod <module>


look at the man pages for both command on your distro they have the
proper syntax

Todd

On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 10:09 -0500, Michael wrote:
> Jeremy Mann wrote:
> > Michael, that is a soundcard module not a video card, but to remove
> > them you need to find what other modules are using that device. Since
> > it is a soundcard, I'd start with the snd-* modules and work your way
> > down.
> 
> But that doesn't answer my question.  ;-)
> 
> How to I stop and restart the modules once I find them?

From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com  Sat May 23 10:41:30 2009
From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher)
Date: Sat May 23 10:41:35 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Sparc 5
Message-ID: <128bff2f0905230841p59e32085lfa57f306844f0304@mail.gmail.com>

Does anybody want a old Sparcserver 5, i believe it is a workstation? Not
sure of the specs on it or what is in it. I never could get Debian installed
on it, though I didn't try really hard either. I have a bunch of cables for
it and a console converter so you can use a VGA monitor with it. Its free to
anybody who wants to come get it, if no takers off to goodwill.

Thanks

Zeb
From horned0wl93 at gmail.com  Sat May 23 12:52:41 2009
From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed)
Date: Sat May 23 12:52:58 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] =?windows-1252?q?=5BFwd=3A_=5BLinux=2Ecom=2Eusers=5D_Li?=
 =?windows-1252?q?nuxCon_Conference_Schedule_Announced_=96_Linus_Torvalds_?=
 =?windows-1252?q?to_Speak=5D?=
Message-ID: <4A1837E9.3080201@gmail.com>

Found on the Dell/Linux list, and thought you all might like...

Cheers;
Ed
==================

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[Linux.com.users] LinuxCon Conference Schedule Announced ? 
Linus Torvalds to Speak
Date: 	Fri, 22 May 2009 10:43:58 -0700
From: 	Linux Foundation <events@linux-foundation.org>
To: 	linux.com.users@linuxfoundation.org



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From jdchoate at gmail.com  Sat May 23 13:33:31 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Sat May 23 13:33:34 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] help with webadmin and a scheduled chron job
In-Reply-To: <1243084916.3946.4.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <1243039332.25504.9.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<200905222028.03359.jdchoate@gmail.com>
	<1243084916.3946.4.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <200905231333.31132.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Saturday 23 May 2009 08:21:56 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> #!/bin/bash is there of course.  As I said before the script runs great
> from the command line I just want it to run on a daily basis at a
> specific time.
> 
> Todd
> 
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 20:28 -0500, John D Choate wrote:
> > On Friday 22 May 2009 19:42:12 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> > > I wrote a nifty little script that runs various sytem reports and
> > > outputs the data to a html document.  I know that the code is good as I
> > > have tested it several times at the command line.  I am using webadmin
> > > for most of my administrative tasks on my home server and am therefore
> > > trying to set the job to run daily at midnight under the Scheduled Chron
> > > Jobs tab.  Problem is when I test the command
> > > "~/scripts/system_report.sh"  I get the following output:
> > > "Output from command /home/redpill-master/scripts/system_report.sh ..
> > > TERM environment variable not set."
> > > 
> > > can someone point me in the right direction? 
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > Todd
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > On second thought, did you include the following at the beginning of your script?
> > 
> > #!/bin/bash
> > 
> > That may be it.
> 
> 

When I set up the cron job in webmin, I used the sh command followed by the full path to the script like:
sh /home/username/Documents/uptime.sh

maybe using sh will help?

John
From jdchoate at gmail.com  Sat May 23 13:53:27 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Sat May 23 13:53:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] rmmod and insmod commands
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP55812F184D053EDFC57239E8570@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>
	<1243091879.4144.1.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<BLU0-SMTP55812F184D053EDFC57239E8570@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200905231353.27728.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Saturday 23 May 2009 12:59:04 Michael wrote:
> Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> > to start
> >
> > sudo modprobe <module>
> >
> > to remove
> >  
> > sudo rmmod <module>
> >
> >
> > look at the man pages for both command on your distro they have the
> > proper syntax
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 10:09 -0500, Michael wrote:
> >   
> >> Jeremy Mann wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Michael, that is a soundcard module not a video card, but to remove
> >>> them you need to find what other modules are using that device. Since
> >>> it is a soundcard, I'd start with the snd-* modules and work your way
> >>> down.
> >>>       
> >> But that doesn't answer my question.  ;-)
> >>
> >> How to I stop and restart the modules once I find them?
> >>     
> 
> > I am trying to install a video card that is not being automatically
> > detected.  Following some directions I googled, after making changes to
> > my /etc/modprobe.d/options file, I am supposed to issue the following
> > commands:
> >
> > rmmod saa7134-alsa       < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
> > rmmod saa7134            < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
> > insmod saa7134.ko card=<card number>  {where <card number is an actual
> >  number, 1 - 125.}
> > insmod saa7134-also.ko
> >
> > This is supposed to be instead of rebooting the computer.  However, I
> > get a "module in use error" when I try to issue the rmmode command.  I
> > also tried the command modeprobe -r but I get the same "module in use
> > error."
> >
> > So, I guess me question is, I do I stop and restart the module
> 
> 
> Here is my original post.  I know what the commands are.  I am getting
> an error message "module in use" when I execute either rmmod or modprobe
> with the -r option.
> 
> I am not knowledgeable about modules.  Are they similar to what Windows
> calls processes or Linux services that can be stopped and restarted? 
> The reason I ask this is the verbage of the error, "module in use" makes
> it sound as if it can be stopped/restarted.  In any case, how do I avoid
> the "module in use" error?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

About modules:
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/ch-kernel-modules.html

Are you trying to remove the module for the graphics card while X is running? Because X will load that module when it starts and I don't think X will let go of it until you stop X. So if you are doing this all in xterm or konsole, etc. then you should log out and drop to runlevel 3 and kill your desktop manager. I am not sure what system you are running and what differences there may be... but in my case I log out from KDE, press CTRL-ALT-F3, log in as root in TTY3, then pidof kdm followed by kill #### (the pid number) to kill kdm (might be gdm or gdm-bin instead of kdm for you). After that you should be able to do the modprobe -r modulename and issue the rmmod and insmod commands.
Or so I would think...


John

From jeremymann at gmail.com  Sat May 23 14:20:28 2009
From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann)
Date: Sat May 23 14:20:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] rmmod and insmod commands
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP55812F184D053EDFC57239E8570@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>
	<79ec289f0905230754o14b411bag8b06f9a377dfda4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP4542824B3E39D4769C68F1E8570@phx.gbl>
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On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Michael <mmorse757@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jeremy Mann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael, that is a soundcard module not a video card, but to remove
>>>> them you need to find what other modules are using that device. Since
>>>> it is a soundcard, I'd start with the snd-* modules and work your way
>>>> down.
>>>>
>>> But that doesn't answer my question. ?;-)
>>>
>>> How to I stop and restart the modules once I find them?
>>>
>
>> I am trying to install a video card that is not being automatically
>> detected. ?Following some directions I googled, after making changes to
>> my /etc/modprobe.d/options file, I am supposed to issue the following
>> commands:
>>
>> rmmod saa7134-alsa ? ? ? < - - - - - ?gives me a "module in use" error.
>> rmmod saa7134 ? ? ? ? ? ?< - - - - - ?gives me a "module in use" error.
>> insmod saa7134.ko card=<card number> ?{where <card number is an actual
>> ?number, 1 - 125.}
>> insmod saa7134-also.ko
>>
>> This is supposed to be instead of rebooting the computer. ?However, I
>> get a "module in use error" when I try to issue the rmmode command. ?I
>> also tried the command modeprobe -r but I get the same "module in use
>> error."
>>
>> So, I guess me question is, I do I stop and restart the module
>
>
> Here is my original post. ?I know what the commands are. ?I am getting
> an error message "module in use" when I execute either rmmod or modprobe
> with the -r option.
>
> I am not knowledgeable about modules. ?Are they similar to what Windows
> calls processes or Linux services that can be stopped and restarted?
> The reason I ask this is the verbage of the error, "module in use" makes
> it sound as if it can be stopped/restarted. ?In any case, how do I avoid
> the "module in use" error?

Not to be a pain here, but it was asked and answered. A more
simplified answer is below.

For example, this is the output of "lsmod |grep snd". This displays
all ALSA sound modules:

snd_seq_dummy           6788  0
snd_seq_oss            32896  0
snd_seq_midi_event     10112  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                50640  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss            42784  0
snd_mixer_oss          18048  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_usb_audio          78176  0
snd_usb_lib            17792  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi            22560  1 snd_usb_lib
snd_seq_device         10508  4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_hwdep              10628  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_intel8x0           32412  0
snd_ac97_codec         98980  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                6016  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                72068  4
snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              22532  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    47204  12
snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore               9824  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         11528  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

Notice the 3rd and 4th columns.  "0" means its not in use, any other
number will display what is using that module. So like I said before,
you need to see which modules are using that saa7134 device and remove
them FIRST.

For example, take "snd_pcm", its being used by 4 other modules. In
order to remove snd_pcm, I first need to remove the modules its using.

Another thing to take into consideration, is since this is an audio
module you may need to kill all mixer programs and audio programs. The
safest way would be to completely get out of X with "init 3" then
unload the modules.


-- 
Jeremy Mann
jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu

University of Texas Health Science Center
Bioinformatics Core Facility
http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
Phone: (210) 567-2672
From e2eiod at gmail.com  Sat May 23 15:10:04 2009
From: e2eiod at gmail.com (Robert Pearson)
Date: Sat May 23 15:10:08 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] rmmod and insmod commands
In-Reply-To: <79ec289f0905231220v24541b1ei99bdac03caf94e1e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>
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On 5/23/09, Jeremy Mann <jeremymann@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Michael <mmorse757@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>> Jeremy Mann wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>> Michael, that is a soundcard module not a video card, but to remove
>  >>>> them you need to find what other modules are using that device. Since
>  >>>> it is a soundcard, I'd start with the snd-* modules and work your way
>  >>>> down.
>  >>>>
>  >>> But that doesn't answer my question.  ;-)
>  >>>
>  >>> How to I stop and restart the modules once I find them?
>  >>>
>  >
>  >> I am trying to install a video card that is not being automatically
>  >> detected.  Following some directions I googled, after making changes to
>  >> my /etc/modprobe.d/options file, I am supposed to issue the following
>  >> commands:
>  >>
>  >> rmmod saa7134-alsa       < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
>  >> rmmod saa7134            < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
>  >> insmod saa7134.ko card=<card number>  {where <card number is an actual
>  >>  number, 1 - 125.}
>  >> insmod saa7134-also.ko
>  >>
>  >> This is supposed to be instead of rebooting the computer.  However, I
>  >> get a "module in use error" when I try to issue the rmmode command.  I
>  >> also tried the command modeprobe -r but I get the same "module in use
>  >> error."
>  >>
>  >> So, I guess me question is, I do I stop and restart the module
>  >
>  >
>  > Here is my original post.  I know what the commands are.  I am getting
>  > an error message "module in use" when I execute either rmmod or modprobe
>  > with the -r option.
>  >
>  > I am not knowledgeable about modules.  Are they similar to what Windows
>  > calls processes or Linux services that can be stopped and restarted?
>  > The reason I ask this is the verbage of the error, "module in use" makes
>  > it sound as if it can be stopped/restarted.  In any case, how do I avoid
>  > the "module in use" error?
>
>
> Not to be a pain here, but it was asked and answered. A more
>  simplified answer is below.
>
>  For example, this is the output of "lsmod |grep snd". This displays
>  all ALSA sound modules:
>
>  snd_seq_dummy           6788  0
>  snd_seq_oss            32896  0
>  snd_seq_midi_event     10112  1 snd_seq_oss
>  snd_seq                50640  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
>  snd_pcm_oss            42784  0
>  snd_mixer_oss          18048  1 snd_pcm_oss
>  snd_usb_audio          78176  0
>  snd_usb_lib            17792  1 snd_usb_audio
>  snd_rawmidi            22560  1 snd_usb_lib
>  snd_seq_device         10508  4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
>  snd_hwdep              10628  1 snd_usb_audio
>  snd_intel8x0           32412  0
>  snd_ac97_codec         98980  1 snd_intel8x0
>  ac97_bus                6016  1 snd_ac97_codec
>  snd_pcm                72068  4
>  snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
>  snd_timer              22532  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
>  snd                    47204  12
>  snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
>  soundcore               9824  1 snd
>  snd_page_alloc         11528  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
>
>  Notice the 3rd and 4th columns.  "0" means its not in use, any other
>  number will display what is using that module. So like I said before,
>  you need to see which modules are using that saa7134 device and remove
>  them FIRST.
>
>  For example, take "snd_pcm", its being used by 4 other modules. In
>  order to remove snd_pcm, I first need to remove the modules its using.
>
>  Another thing to take into consideration, is since this is an audio
>  module you may need to kill all mixer programs and audio programs. The
>  safest way would be to completely get out of X with "init 3" then
>  unload the modules.
>
>
>
>  --
>  Jeremy Mann
>  jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu
>
>  University of Texas Health Science Center
>  Bioinformatics Core Facility
>  http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu
>  Phone: (210) 567-2672
>  --
>  _______________________________________________

Thanks Jeremy for the explanation.
I have never seen this clear of an answer for why I was getting that
"module in use" error message in all my Googling and reading "man"
pages. Even though I still don't have a clue as to what I am really
doing (what is a "module" and where does it live? In the kernel?) and
have stopped using any of these commands due to my ignorance, this
helps my "howto" understanding greatly.
From jtiner at satx.rr.com  Sat May 23 15:18:31 2009
From: jtiner at satx.rr.com (James Tiner)
Date: Sat May 23 15:18:33 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] rmmod and insmod commands
In-Reply-To: <b438b5d70905231310m7f32efb1v20e1c316c1aef62a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <1243109911.19308.2.camel@james-desktop>

> __
> 
> Thanks Jeremy for the explanation.
> I have never seen this clear of an answer for why I was getting that
> "module in use" error message in all my Googling and reading "man"
> pages. Even though I still don't have a clue as to what I am really
> doing (what is a "module" and where does it live? In the kernel?) and
> have stopped using any of these commands due to my ignorance, this
> helps my "howto" understanding greatly.

the module you are asking about is the driver you are trying to load.
It is a kernel module and when loaded becomes part of the running
kernel. 

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Sat May 23 15:53:28 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Sat May 23 15:53:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] help with webadmin and a scheduled chron job
In-Reply-To: <200905231333.31132.jdchoate@gmail.com>
References: <1243039332.25504.9.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<200905222028.03359.jdchoate@gmail.com>
	<1243084916.3946.4.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<200905231333.31132.jdchoate@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243112008.12023.0.camel@redpill-laptop>

that did the trick! thanks

Todd

On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 13:33 -0500, John D Choate wrote:
> On Saturday 23 May 2009 08:21:56 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> > #!/bin/bash is there of course.  As I said before the script runs great
> > from the command line I just want it to run on a daily basis at a
> > specific time.
> > 
> > Todd
> > 
> > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 20:28 -0500, John D Choate wrote:
> > > On Friday 22 May 2009 19:42:12 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> > > > I wrote a nifty little script that runs various sytem reports and
> > > > outputs the data to a html document.  I know that the code is good as I
> > > > have tested it several times at the command line.  I am using webadmin
> > > > for most of my administrative tasks on my home server and am therefore
> > > > trying to set the job to run daily at midnight under the Scheduled Chron
> > > > Jobs tab.  Problem is when I test the command
> > > > "~/scripts/system_report.sh"  I get the following output:
> > > > "Output from command /home/redpill-master/scripts/system_report.sh ..
> > > > TERM environment variable not set."
> > > > 
> > > > can someone point me in the right direction? 
> > > > 
> > > > thanks
> > > > Todd
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > On second thought, did you include the following at the beginning of your script?
> > > 
> > > #!/bin/bash
> > > 
> > > That may be it.
> > 
> > 
> 
> When I set up the cron job in webmin, I used the sh command followed by the full path to the script like:
> sh /home/username/Documents/uptime.sh
> 
> maybe using sh will help?
> 
> John

From jdchoate at gmail.com  Sat May 23 16:10:35 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Sat May 23 16:10:39 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] help with webadmin and a scheduled chron job
In-Reply-To: <1243112008.12023.0.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <1243039332.25504.9.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<200905231333.31132.jdchoate@gmail.com>
	<1243112008.12023.0.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <200905231610.35260.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Saturday 23 May 2009 15:53:28 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> that did the trick! thanks
> 
> Todd
> 
> On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 13:33 -0500, John D Choate wrote:
> > On Saturday 23 May 2009 08:21:56 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> > > #!/bin/bash is there of course.  As I said before the script runs great
> > > from the command line I just want it to run on a daily basis at a
> > > specific time.
> > > 
> > > Todd
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 20:28 -0500, John D Choate wrote:
> > > > On Friday 22 May 2009 19:42:12 Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> > > > > I wrote a nifty little script that runs various sytem reports and
> > > > > outputs the data to a html document.  I know that the code is good as I
> > > > > have tested it several times at the command line.  I am using webadmin
> > > > > for most of my administrative tasks on my home server and am therefore
> > > > > trying to set the job to run daily at midnight under the Scheduled Chron
> > > > > Jobs tab.  Problem is when I test the command
> > > > > "~/scripts/system_report.sh"  I get the following output:
> > > > > "Output from command /home/redpill-master/scripts/system_report.sh ..
> > > > > TERM environment variable not set."
> > > > > 
> > > > > can someone point me in the right direction? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Todd
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On second thought, did you include the following at the beginning of your script?
> > > > 
> > > > #!/bin/bash
> > > > 
> > > > That may be it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > When I set up the cron job in webmin, I used the sh command followed by the full path to the script like:
> > sh /home/username/Documents/uptime.sh
> > 
> > maybe using sh will help?
> > 
> > John
> 
> 
Good to hear it. You're welcome.

John
From bkfuth at gmail.com  Sat May 23 18:42:23 2009
From: bkfuth at gmail.com (steve kolars)
Date: Sat May 23 18:42:24 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Sparc 5
In-Reply-To: <128bff2f0905230841p59e32085lfa57f306844f0304@mail.gmail.com>
References: <128bff2f0905230841p59e32085lfa57f306844f0304@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9b6ae23d0905231642u181d606cwa6f48f04d8fcebf4@mail.gmail.com>

I'll take it.  Please e-mail me off list.

Steve

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Zeb Fletcher <zeb.fletcher@gmail.com>wrote:

> Does anybody want a old Sparcserver 5, i believe it is a workstation? Not
> sure of the specs on it or what is in it. I never could get Debian
> installed
> on it, though I didn't try really hard either. I have a bunch of cables for
> it and a console converter so you can use a VGA monitor with it. Its free
> to
> anybody who wants to come get it, if no takers off to goodwill.
>
> Thanks
>
> Zeb
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From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Sun May 24 13:35:34 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Sun May 24 13:35:36 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] rmmod and insmod commands
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP55812F184D053EDFC57239E8570@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>
	<79ec289f0905230754o14b411bag8b06f9a377dfda4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP4542824B3E39D4769C68F1E8570@phx.gbl>
	<1243091879.4144.1.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<BLU0-SMTP55812F184D053EDFC57239E8570@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1243190134.7807.6.camel@redpill-laptop>

sorry about that, I should have read a little closer.  If you are using
ubuntu try booting into the recover mode.  You can get there from the
grub menu.  
also modules are analogous to drivers in windows so if the module (or
driver) If you are trying to remove a video driver that X uses then boot
into the recovery mode and you can remove the module there for X.

also in case you mess up X you can always use the following command to
reset it:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg.

Todd

On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 12:59 -0500, Michael wrote:
> Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> > to start
> >
> > sudo modprobe <module>
> >
> > to remove
> >  
> > sudo rmmod <module>
> >
> >
> > look at the man pages for both command on your distro they have the
> > proper syntax
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 10:09 -0500, Michael wrote:
> >   
> >> Jeremy Mann wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Michael, that is a soundcard module not a video card, but to remove
> >>> them you need to find what other modules are using that device. Since
> >>> it is a soundcard, I'd start with the snd-* modules and work your way
> >>> down.
> >>>       
> >> But that doesn't answer my question.  ;-)
> >>
> >> How to I stop and restart the modules once I find them?
> >>     
> 
> > I am trying to install a video card that is not being automatically
> > detected.  Following some directions I googled, after making changes to
> > my /etc/modprobe.d/options file, I am supposed to issue the following
> > commands:
> >
> > rmmod saa7134-alsa       < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
> > rmmod saa7134            < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
> > insmod saa7134.ko card=<card number>  {where <card number is an actual
> >  number, 1 - 125.}
> > insmod saa7134-also.ko
> >
> > This is supposed to be instead of rebooting the computer.  However, I
> > get a "module in use error" when I try to issue the rmmode command.  I
> > also tried the command modeprobe -r but I get the same "module in use
> > error."
> >
> > So, I guess me question is, I do I stop and restart the module
> 
> 
> Here is my original post.  I know what the commands are.  I am getting
> an error message "module in use" when I execute either rmmod or modprobe
> with the -r option.
> 
> I am not knowledgeable about modules.  Are they similar to what Windows
> calls processes or Linux services that can be stopped and restarted? 
> The reason I ask this is the verbage of the error, "module in use" makes
> it sound as if it can be stopped/restarted.  In any case, how do I avoid
> the "module in use" error?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

From art.hall at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 24 14:28:54 2009
From: art.hall at sbcglobal.net (Arthur Hall)
Date: Sun May 24 14:28:56 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Gateway Power Supply
Message-ID: <874008.27533.qm@web82301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Looking for a power supply for a donated Gateway desktop, model MFATXSTL ELP 500C.? The part number is 6500582 if I've done the homework correctly, but the original power supply is long gone so I can't be certain.? I believe the rating is 160 watts.? If I can resurrect this desktop, it will go to a small church in the valley.? Thanks for the help.
Art
From hc at lookcee.com  Sun May 24 15:28:48 2009
From: hc at lookcee.com (Herb Cee)
Date: Sun May 24 15:28:51 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] rmmod and insmod commands
In-Reply-To: <1243190134.7807.6.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>	<79ec289f0905230754o14b411bag8b06f9a377dfda4e@mail.gmail.com>	<BLU0-SMTP4542824B3E39D4769C68F1E8570@phx.gbl>	<1243091879.4144.1.camel@redpill-laptop>	<BLU0-SMTP55812F184D053EDFC57239E8570@phx.gbl>
	<1243190134.7807.6.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <4A19AE00.7050109@lookcee.com>

Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> sorry about that, I should have read a little closer.  If you are using
> ubuntu try booting into the recover mode.  You can get there from the
> grub menu.  
> also modules are analogous to drivers in windows so if the module (or
> driver) If you are trying to remove a video driver that X uses then boot
> into the recovery mode and you can remove the module there for X.
>
> also in case you mess up X you can always use the following command to
> reset it:
>
> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg.
>
> Todd
>
> On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 12:59 -0500, Michael wrote:
>   
>> Todd W. Bucy wrote:
>>     
>>> to start
>>>
>>> sudo modprobe <module>
>>>
>>> to remove
>>>  
>>> sudo rmmod <module>
>>>
>>>
>>> look at the man pages for both command on your distro they have the
>>> proper syntax
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 10:09 -0500, Michael wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Jeremy Mann wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Michael, that is a soundcard module not a video card, but to remove
>>>>> them you need to find what other modules are using that device. Since
>>>>> it is a soundcard, I'd start with the snd-* modules and work your way
>>>>> down.
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> But that doesn't answer my question.  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> How to I stop and restart the modules once I find them?
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> I am trying to install a video card that is not being automatically
>>> detected.  Following some directions I googled, after making changes to
>>> my /etc/modprobe.d/options file, I am supposed to issue the following
>>> commands:
>>>
>>> rmmod saa7134-alsa       < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
>>> rmmod saa7134            < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
>>> insmod saa7134.ko card=<card number>  {where <card number is an actual
>>>  number, 1 - 125.}
>>> insmod saa7134-also.ko
>>>
>>> This is supposed to be instead of rebooting the computer.  However, I
>>> get a "module in use error" when I try to issue the rmmode command.  I
>>> also tried the command modeprobe -r but I get the same "module in use
>>> error."
>>>
>>> So, I guess me question is, I do I stop and restart the module
>>>       
>> Here is my original post.  I know what the commands are.  I am getting
>> an error message "module in use" when I execute either rmmod or modprobe
>> with the -r option.
>>
>> I am not knowledgeable about modules.  Are they similar to what Windows
>> calls processes or Linux services that can be stopped and restarted? 
>> The reason I ask this is the verbage of the error, "module in use" makes
>> it sound as if it can be stopped/restarted.  In any case, how do I avoid
>> the "module in use" error?
>>     

Hey thanks Todd I copied those how to get into recover and how to reset 
X in my LinuxTips file .... future ammo YAY
herb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
>   

From horned0wl93 at gmail.com  Sun May 24 21:09:58 2009
From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed)
Date: Sun May 24 21:09:45 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Gateway Power Supply
In-Reply-To: <874008.27533.qm@web82301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <874008.27533.qm@web82301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A19FDF6.2030304@gmail.com>

I have an older gateway hulk, but can't speak for the power supply.  You 
can have it if you like.

Cheers;
Ed
===========

Arthur Hall wrote:
> Looking for a power supply for a donated Gateway desktop, model MFATXSTL ELP 500C.  The part number is 6500582 if I've done the homework correctly, but the original power supply is long gone so I can't be certain.  I believe the rating is 160 watts.  If I can resurrect this desktop, it will go to a small church in the valley.  Thanks for the help.
> Art
>   
From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Sun May 24 22:56:11 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Sun May 24 22:56:14 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <452541.91839.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access the group's website and discussion list on the web, I get an error message, I've tried accessing the group's web page and archive list from a different network and it works like a charm.

I would like to know if anyone on gvtc's network can also access it or has the same problems as I am having.

thanks,
esv.


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From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Sun May 24 23:52:41 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Sun May 24 23:52:43 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] rmmod and insmod commands
In-Reply-To: <1243190134.7807.6.camel@redpill-laptop>
References: <BLU0-SMTP669EC7F1DDE3B45AF814D0E8570@phx.gbl>
	<79ec289f0905230754o14b411bag8b06f9a377dfda4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP4542824B3E39D4769C68F1E8570@phx.gbl>
	<1243091879.4144.1.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<BLU0-SMTP55812F184D053EDFC57239E8570@phx.gbl>
	<1243190134.7807.6.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <1243227161.7974.6.camel@redpill-laptop>

another way to do the same thing is to look in your /etc/modules file.
If your module is listed there it will load at boot time.  If you need
it removed then just comment it out.  remember though that it this
particular module is loaded in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file then your
x-server will most likely crash.  this is where the previous command
comes in handy. 

Todd

On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 13:35 -0500, Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> sorry about that, I should have read a little closer.  If you are using
> ubuntu try booting into the recover mode.  You can get there from the
> grub menu.  
> also modules are analogous to drivers in windows so if the module (or
> driver) If you are trying to remove a video driver that X uses then boot
> into the recovery mode and you can remove the module there for X.
> 
> also in case you mess up X you can always use the following command to
> reset it:
> 
> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg.
> 
> Todd
> 
> On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 12:59 -0500, Michael wrote:
> > Todd W. Bucy wrote:
> > > to start
> > >
> > > sudo modprobe <module>
> > >
> > > to remove
> > >  
> > > sudo rmmod <module>
> > >
> > >
> > > look at the man pages for both command on your distro they have the
> > > proper syntax
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 10:09 -0500, Michael wrote:
> > >   
> > >> Jeremy Mann wrote:
> > >>     
> > >>> Michael, that is a soundcard module not a video card, but to remove
> > >>> them you need to find what other modules are using that device. Since
> > >>> it is a soundcard, I'd start with the snd-* modules and work your way
> > >>> down.
> > >>>       
> > >> But that doesn't answer my question.  ;-)
> > >>
> > >> How to I stop and restart the modules once I find them?
> > >>     
> > 
> > > I am trying to install a video card that is not being automatically
> > > detected.  Following some directions I googled, after making changes to
> > > my /etc/modprobe.d/options file, I am supposed to issue the following
> > > commands:
> > >
> > > rmmod saa7134-alsa       < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
> > > rmmod saa7134            < - - - - -  gives me a "module in use" error.
> > > insmod saa7134.ko card=<card number>  {where <card number is an actual
> > >  number, 1 - 125.}
> > > insmod saa7134-also.ko
> > >
> > > This is supposed to be instead of rebooting the computer.  However, I
> > > get a "module in use error" when I try to issue the rmmode command.  I
> > > also tried the command modeprobe -r but I get the same "module in use
> > > error."
> > >
> > > So, I guess me question is, I do I stop and restart the module
> > 
> > 
> > Here is my original post.  I know what the commands are.  I am getting
> > an error message "module in use" when I execute either rmmod or modprobe
> > with the -r option.
> > 
> > I am not knowledgeable about modules.  Are they similar to what Windows
> > calls processes or Linux services that can be stopped and restarted? 
> > The reason I ask this is the verbage of the error, "module in use" makes
> > it sound as if it can be stopped/restarted.  In any case, how do I avoid
> > the "module in use" error?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

From riugakusei at aim.com  Mon May 25 07:30:03 2009
From: riugakusei at aim.com (riugakusei@aim.com)
Date: Mon May 25 07:30:42 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] problems booting from a dvd
In-Reply-To: <8CBAB4B539DBB21-1664-2812@WEBMAIL-DZ29.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CBAB4B539DBB21-1664-2812@WEBMAIL-DZ29.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CBAB4BA97B807D-1664-2825@WEBMAIL-DZ29.sysops.aol.com>









i am trying to install? use 11.1 on a hp pavilion dv6000 laptop.. my only problem is that the laptop wont boot up from? a dvd.... i already tried changing thee boot device order from the bio settings . from the . i thought myabe it was the suse 11.1 dvd so i tried with fedora... and this laptop just wont boot up from any dvd.... any suggestions are welcome.. its the first time i have problems booting up form a dvd.... i just want to get rid of vista....



vega

ps...thanks...



 

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From nathan at gvtc.com  Mon May 25 07:36:58 2009
From: nathan at gvtc.com (Nathan)
Date: Mon May 25 07:36:59 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <20090525053658.60419147@resin11.mta.everyone.net>

I have had the same problem for a long time.  I contacted GVTC support and they say it is Rackspace's fault and refuse to look into the problem.

I also have problems in not getting to http://www.nmra.org.au/ which is also on Rackspace.

I have to goto where I am not on GVTC to reach both.  I tried to ask Rackspace support for help, but they say since I am not one of their customers they can not help.  [Tom, are you reading this?]

Nathan

--- esanchezvela@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org>
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:56:11 -0700 (PDT)



as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access the group's website and discussion list on the web, I get an error message, I've tried accessing the group's web page and archive list from a different network and it works like a charm.

I would like to know if anyone on gvtc's network can also access it or has the same problems as I am having.

thanks,
esv.


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From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Mon May 25 08:08:36 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Mon May 25 08:08:38 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <580348.47856.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



A few days ago I was having problems accessing ubuntu.com so I open a call with GVTC folks, after a rough start I finally got to knowledgeable support folks who got surprised by the fact and took a stab at the issue, after a few hours they fixed the problem, it has been working since then, I just tested http://www.nmra.org.au/ and it is working fine too.

SATLUG's..., well, we're not there yet.

best regards,
esv.

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--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com> wrote:

> From: Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:36 AM
> I have had the same problem for a
> long time.  I contacted GVTC support and they say it is
> Rackspace's fault and refuse to look into the problem.
> 
> I also have problems in not getting to http://www.nmra.org.au/ which is also on Rackspace.
> 
> I have to goto where I am not on GVTC to reach both. 
> I tried to ask Rackspace support for help, but they say
> since I am not one of their customers they can not
> help.  [Tom, are you reading this?]
> 
> Nathan
> 
> --- esanchezvela@yahoo.com
> wrote:
> 
> From: Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org>
> Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's
> network.
> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> 
> 
> as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access the group's
> website and discussion list on the web, I get an error
> message, I've tried accessing the group's web page and
> archive list from a different network and it works like a
> charm.
> 
> I would like to know if anyone on gvtc's network can also
> access it or has the same problems as I am having.
> 
> thanks,
> esv.
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------
> Support the troops, bring them home.
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> 
> 
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From matt at thegrahamfam.com  Mon May 25 08:49:53 2009
From: matt at thegrahamfam.com (Matt Graham)
Date: Mon May 25 08:50:19 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <580348.47856.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <580348.47856.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a3da29ef0905250649p239706e8g308bb8b1a04e33a5@mail.gmail.com>

I have had GVTC for years and have NEVER had issue access in SATLUG or
ubuntu.com..interesting.

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Enrique Sanchez Vela <
esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> A few days ago I was having problems accessing ubuntu.com so I open a call
> with GVTC folks, after a rough start I finally got to knowledgeable support
> folks who got surprised by the fact and took a stab at the issue, after a
> few hours they fixed the problem, it has been working since then, I just
> tested http://www.nmra.org.au/ and it is working fine too.
>
> SATLUG's..., well, we're not there yet.
>
> best regards,
> esv.
>
> --------------------------------------
> Support the troops, bring them home.
>
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
>
>
> --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org
> >
> > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:36 AM
> > I have had the same problem for a
> > long time.  I contacted GVTC support and they say it is
> > Rackspace's fault and refuse to look into the problem.
> >
> > I also have problems in not getting to http://www.nmra.org.au/ which is
> also on Rackspace.
> >
> > I have to goto where I am not on GVTC to reach both.
> > I tried to ask Rackspace support for help, but they say
> > since I am not one of their customers they can not
> > help.  [Tom, are you reading this?]
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > --- esanchezvela@yahoo.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org>
> > Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's
> > network.
> > Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> >
> > as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access the group's
> > website and discussion list on the web, I get an error
> > message, I've tried accessing the group's web page and
> > archive list from a different network and it works like a
> > charm.
> >
> > I would like to know if anyone on gvtc's network can also
> > access it or has the same problems as I am having.
> >
> > thanks,
> > esv.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > SATLUG@satlug.org
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> > unsubscribe
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From hharadon at gmail.com  Mon May 25 10:21:35 2009
From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon)
Date: Mon May 25 10:21:38 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] problems booting from a dvd
In-Reply-To: <8CBAB4BA97B807D-1664-2825@WEBMAIL-DZ29.sysops.aol.com>
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:30 AM,  <riugakusei@aim.com> wrote:

> i am trying to install? use 11.1 on a hp pavilion dv6000 laptop.. my only problem is that the laptop wont boot up from? a dvd.... i already tried changing thee boot device order from the bio settings . from the . i thought myabe it was the suse 11.1 dvd so i tried with fedora... and this laptop just wont boot up from any dvd.... any suggestions are welcome.. its the first time i have problems booting up form a dvd.... i just want to get rid of vista....
> vega
> ps...thanks...

Advice from a lazy guy (aren't we all?):

1. Unless your BIOS specifically says so, you have to assume
that it will not boot from a DVD.

2. Quick solution is to get the Live CD version of Suse or Fedora
and then boot and install using the CD plus downloading from the
net.

Good luck, Howard
-- 
Howard Haradon
San Antonio, TX  USA
From nathan at gvtc.com  Mon May 25 10:33:28 2009
From: nathan at gvtc.com (Nathan)
Date: Mon May 25 10:33:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Computer Show
Message-ID: <20090525083328.6041A926@resin11.mta.everyone.net>

Remember we have a booth at the computer show at Live Oak Civic Center this Saturday the 30th. Because the show is growing a little each time we will be limited to one table, they donate us a table for the show and have been very good to SATLUG over the years.

We would like to show off Programming Languages. If there are more of us then can fit on one table we will have to work in shifts.

If you are not going to be part of the booth, get a discount coupon from the shows web site and support them for supporting us. The vendors have also been good to SATLUG members over the years so if you have your SATLUG shirt or badge you will probably get a small discount on many items you purchase at the show.
From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu  Mon May 25 11:17:30 2009
From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler)
Date: Mon May 25 11:17:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
Message-ID: <200905251617.n4PGHUq6012525@biochem.uthscsa.edu>

Satluggers, 
I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
on the web from a bunch of pictures.

I want to be able to control background, border, and be able to have a thumbnail
image of adjustable scale, which is then a link to the full-res image file, and 
navigation controls. Suggestions?

Thanks, -b.
From dmyhand at suddenlink.net  Mon May 25 11:39:54 2009
From: dmyhand at suddenlink.net (Dennis Myhand)
Date: Mon May 25 11:39:52 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905251617.n4PGHUq6012525@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
References: <200905251617.n4PGHUq6012525@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
Message-ID: <4A1AC9DA.5000108@suddenlink.net>

Borries Demeler wrote:
> Satluggers, 
> I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> on the web from a bunch of pictures.
> 
> I want to be able to control background, border, and be able to have a thumbnail
> image of adjustable scale, which is then a link to the full-res image file, and 
> navigation controls. Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks, -b.
> 
> 

Impress which is part of OpenOffice is no different than PowerPoint.  I 
have used it to pass a M$Office class with an A.  Peace, Dennis in Victoria
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Mon May 25 12:34:03 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Mon May 25 12:34:05 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <4A1AC9DA.5000108@suddenlink.net>
References: <200905251617.n4PGHUq6012525@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
	<4A1AC9DA.5000108@suddenlink.net>
Message-ID: <1243272843.4102.2.camel@redpill-laptop>

I would also suggest looking into impress.  While it is not necessarily
open-source (probably open-access better describes the OO suite) it will
get the job done quite well and IMO the most feature complete portions
of the OO suite.

Todd

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:39 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> Borries Demeler wrote:
> > Satluggers, 
> > I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> > on the web from a bunch of pictures.
> > 
> > I want to be able to control background, border, and be able to have a thumbnail
> > image of adjustable scale, which is then a link to the full-res image file, and 
> > navigation controls. Suggestions?
> > 
> > Thanks, -b.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Impress which is part of OpenOffice is no different than PowerPoint.  I 
> have used it to pass a M$Office class with an A.  Peace, Dennis in Victoria

From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu  Mon May 25 13:05:04 2009
From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler)
Date: Mon May 25 13:05:28 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <1243272843.4102.2.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <200905251805.n4PI54tW016538@biochem.uthscsa.edu>

> 
> I would also suggest looking into impress.  While it is not necessarily
> open-source (probably open-access better describes the OO suite) it will
> get the job done quite well and IMO the most feature complete portions
> of the OO suite.
> 
> Todd

No, I am not thinking of a powerpoint presentation replacement, yes, Impress is
good and I use it exclusively for what it is designed - the html export is way too
inflexible - for example, it does not permit linking thumbs to hi-rez images, and 
doesn't allow me to set arbitrary resolutions for thumbs. I was looking for a
program that specifically generates web pages for a collection of slides and images.

What I am using now is called "xnview". It comes pretty close, but isn't OSS and 
lacks some features I need.

Thanks, -Borries

> 
> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:39 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> > Borries Demeler wrote:
> > > Satluggers, 
> > > I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> > > on the web from a bunch of pictures.
> > > 
> > > I want to be able to control background, border, and be able to have a thumbnail
> > > image of adjustable scale, which is then a link to the full-res image file, and 
> > > navigation controls. Suggestions?
> > > 
> > > Thanks, -b.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Impress which is part of OpenOffice is no different than PowerPoint.  I 
> > have used it to pass a M$Office class with an A.  Peace, Dennis in Victoria
> 
> -- 
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From e2eiod at gmail.com  Mon May 25 14:34:51 2009
From: e2eiod at gmail.com (Robert Pearson)
Date: Mon May 25 14:34:55 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905251805.n4PI54tW016538@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
References: <1243272843.4102.2.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<200905251805.n4PI54tW016538@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
Message-ID: <b438b5d70905251234w6eaac855u272b835228b6f5f3@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/25/09, Borries Demeler <demeler@biochem.uthscsa.edu> wrote:
> >
>  > I would also suggest looking into impress.  While it is not necessarily
>  > open-source (probably open-access better describes the OO suite) it will
>  > get the job done quite well and IMO the most feature complete portions
>  > of the OO suite.
>  >
>  > Todd
>
>
> No, I am not thinking of a powerpoint presentation replacement, yes, Impress is
>  good and I use it exclusively for what it is designed - the html export is way too
>  inflexible - for example, it does not permit linking thumbs to hi-rez images, and
>  doesn't allow me to set arbitrary resolutions for thumbs. I was looking for a
>  program that specifically generates web pages for a collection of slides and images.
>
>  What I am using now is called "xnview". It comes pretty close, but isn't OSS and
>  lacks some features I need.
>
>  Thanks, -Borries
>

This is not a "specific" answer to your question.
Since I was interested in doing something like this myself, I did a
little Googling.
Three resources of interest:
"Comparison of image viewers"
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_image_viewers>
"xnview and some of the OSS packages (F-spot, Gqview, Gthumb,
Kphotoalbum) are compared"

"List of open source software packages"
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_software_packages#Image_viewers>
Image viewers
* Eye of GNOME
* F-spot
* Gqview
* Gthumb
* imgSeek
* Kphotoalbum
VLC Media Player

"Image viewer"
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_viewer>
UNIX-like
* XnView, xv, Kuickshow, GThumb (Linux)

HTH - it gave me some specific tools to look at and compare


>
>  >
>  > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:39 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote:
>  > > Borries Demeler wrote:
>  > > > Satluggers,
>  > > > I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
>  > > > on the web from a bunch of pictures.
>  > > >
>  > > > I want to be able to control background, border, and be able to have a thumbnail
>  > > > image of adjustable scale, which is then a link to the full-res image file, and
>  > > > navigation controls. Suggestions?
>  > > >
>  > > > Thanks, -b.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > > Impress which is part of OpenOffice is no different than PowerPoint.  I
>  > > have used it to pass a M$Office class with an A.  Peace, Dennis in Victoria
>  >
>  > --
From jdchoate at gmail.com  Mon May 25 14:37:08 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Mon May 25 14:37:12 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] problems booting from a dvd
In-Reply-To: <8CBAB4BA97B807D-1664-2825@WEBMAIL-DZ29.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CBAB4B539DBB21-1664-2812@WEBMAIL-DZ29.sysops.aol.com>
	<8CBAB4BA97B807D-1664-2825@WEBMAIL-DZ29.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <200905251437.08451.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Monday 25 May 2009 07:30:03 riugakusei@aim.com wrote:
> 
> i am trying to install? use 11.1 on a hp pavilion dv6000 laptop.. my only problem is that the laptop wont boot up from? a dvd.... i already tried changing thee boot device order from the bio settings . from the . i thought myabe it was the suse 11.1 dvd so i tried with fedora... and this laptop just wont boot up from any dvd.... any suggestions are welcome.. its the first time i have problems booting up form a dvd.... i just want to get rid of vista....
> 
> 
> 
> vega
> 
> ps...thanks...
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Wanna slim down for summer?  Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 

That is strange because I have a dv9000 and it boots from DVDs just fine. IIRC the dv6000 is basically the same but with a smaller screen size. Perhaps the DVD drive itself has a problem.
I am not sure if the HP machines can do this, but on Dell machines you can press F12 to force the boot device. Maybe try that.


John C
From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu  Mon May 25 14:38:40 2009
From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler)
Date: Mon May 25 14:38:50 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <b438b5d70905251234w6eaac855u272b835228b6f5f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905251938.n4PJceMf019993@biochem.uthscsa.edu>

> This is not a "specific" answer to your question.
> Since I was interested in doing something like this myself, I did a
> little Googling.
> Three resources of interest:
> "Comparison of image viewers"
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_image_viewers>
> "xnview and some of the OSS packages (F-spot, Gqview, Gthumb,
> Kphotoalbum) are compared"
> 
> "List of open source software packages"
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_software_packages#Image_viewers>
> Image viewers
> * Eye of GNOME
> * F-spot
> * Gqview
> * Gthumb
> * imgSeek
> * Kphotoalbum
> VLC Media Player
> 
> "Image viewer"
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_viewer>
> UNIX-like
> * XnView, xv, Kuickshow, GThumb (Linux)
> 
> HTH - it gave me some specific tools to look at and compare

Have you looked at any of them already and could you give me a general impression?
The XnView program is pretty nice for generating web pages from images, but I would
like to have more customization options. Also, the navigation isn't as complete as I
would like it to be (no jumping possible).

Thanks, -b.
From jdchoate at gmail.com  Mon May 25 14:49:20 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Mon May 25 14:57:21 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <b438b5d70905251234w6eaac855u272b835228b6f5f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1243272843.4102.2.camel@redpill-laptop>
	<200905251805.n4PI54tW016538@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
	<b438b5d70905251234w6eaac855u272b835228b6f5f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905251449.21087.jdchoate@gmail.com>


> >
> >  >
> >  > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:39 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> >  > > Borries Demeler wrote:
> >  > > > Satluggers,
> >  > > > I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> >  > > > on the web from a bunch of pictures.

This is not an OSS Linux app, but you might want to check out Jalbum. http://jalbum.net/
It has an option for slideshow, but is normally just a photo album builder and browser which drops easily into a web site.
I think to use the slideshow option it needs to be enabled in the options when the album is built, then there will be a 'slideshow' button to press when viewing the album.

John C.
From leivajose at gmail.com  Mon May 25 15:09:03 2009
From: leivajose at gmail.com (Jose Leiva)
Date: Mon May 25 15:09:08 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905251938.n4PJceMf019993@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
References: <b438b5d70905251234w6eaac855u272b835228b6f5f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905251938.n4PJceMf019993@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
Message-ID: <495ed5030905251309s7ac09659sf28c005a2abc6ab0@mail.gmail.com>

I do some website building on the side for friends and I wish there was a
program similar to what you are asking. I don't know if there is any type of
software out there that will do what you are trying to accomplish on the
desktop.
I don't know what type of final product you want flash. javascript or simply
pure html with xml.

Here is one that I have used before.

http://www.airtightinteractive.com/projects/postcardviewer/

I will get all of the programs that I have used and found once I get off
work.

-Jose L.
From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu  Mon May 25 15:54:09 2009
From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler)
Date: Mon May 25 15:54:20 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905251449.21087.jdchoate@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905252054.n4PKs9dN022726@biochem.uthscsa.edu>

> > >  > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:39 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> > >  > > Borries Demeler wrote:
> > >  > > > Satluggers,
> > >  > > > I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> > >  > > > on the web from a bunch of pictures.
> 
> This is not an OSS Linux app, but you might want to check out Jalbum. http://jalbum.net/
> It has an option for slideshow, but is normally just a photo album builder and browser which drops easily into a web site.
> I think to use the slideshow option it needs to be enabled in the options when the album is built, then there will be a 'slideshow' button to press when viewing the album.
> 
> John C.

Jalbum comes close - but I would like the program to also link to a high-res copy
by simply clicking on the thumb or the slideshow item. Maybe I need to hack my own
version to get what I need. THat's why OSS would be nice.

-b.
From ovalvw57 at yahoo.com  Mon May 25 16:00:00 2009
From: ovalvw57 at yahoo.com (That clown again....)
Date: Mon May 25 16:00:01 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] problems booting from a dvd
Message-ID: <123894.53242.qm@web50402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- On Mon, 5/25/09, John D Choate <jdchoate@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am not sure if the HP machines can do this, but on Dell machines you can press F12 to force the boot device. Maybe try that.

Would suggest that or Esc or other F1, F2, F3, etc. to find a boot menu. Or if the DVD is just trash go with a USB drive. There's also a net boot and install. 



      
From jdchoate at gmail.com  Mon May 25 16:04:28 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Mon May 25 16:05:19 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905252054.n4PKs9dN022726@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
References: <200905252054.n4PKs9dN022726@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
Message-ID: <200905251604.28625.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Monday 25 May 2009 15:54:09 Borries Demeler wrote:
> > > >  > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:39 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> > > >  > > Borries Demeler wrote:
> > > >  > > > Satluggers,
> > > >  > > > I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> > > >  > > > on the web from a bunch of pictures.
> > 
> > This is not an OSS Linux app, but you might want to check out Jalbum. http://jalbum.net/
> > It has an option for slideshow, but is normally just a photo album builder and browser which drops easily into a web site.
> > I think to use the slideshow option it needs to be enabled in the options when the album is built, then there will be a 'slideshow' button to press when viewing the album.
> > 
> > John C.
> 
> Jalbum comes close - but I would like the program to also link to a high-res copy
> by simply clicking on the thumb or the slideshow item. Maybe I need to hack my own
> version to get what I need. THat's why OSS would be nice.
> 
> -b.
> 
Jalbum can do that. There is an option for clicking to the original resolution in the 'Pages' tab in the options. You can choose to 'Link to scaled-down images only', 'Link to originals' and 'Link to originals via scaled images'.

Not that I am trying to push jalbum, but it may be able to do what you want until you can find something open source.
From jdchoate at gmail.com  Mon May 25 16:05:42 2009
From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate)
Date: Mon May 25 16:06:31 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905252054.n4PKs9dN022726@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
References: <200905252054.n4PKs9dN022726@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
Message-ID: <200905251605.42502.jdchoate@gmail.com>

On Monday 25 May 2009 15:54:09 Borries Demeler wrote:
> > > >  > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:39 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> > > >  > > Borries Demeler wrote:
> > > >  > > > Satluggers,
> > > >  > > > I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> > > >  > > > on the web from a bunch of pictures.
> > 
> > This is not an OSS Linux app, but you might want to check out Jalbum. http://jalbum.net/
> > It has an option for slideshow, but is normally just a photo album builder and browser which drops easily into a web site.
> > I think to use the slideshow option it needs to be enabled in the options when the album is built, then there will be a 'slideshow' button to press when viewing the album.
> > 
> > John C.
> 
> Jalbum comes close - but I would like the program to also link to a high-res copy
> by simply clicking on the thumb or the slideshow item. Maybe I need to hack my own
> version to get what I need. THat's why OSS would be nice.
> 
> -b.
> 
I meant 'Album Settings' for those options.
From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu  Mon May 25 16:08:40 2009
From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler)
Date: Mon May 25 16:08:42 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905251604.28625.jdchoate@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905252108.n4PL8eln023326@biochem.uthscsa.edu>

> > 
> > Jalbum comes close - but I would like the program to also link to a high-res copy
> > by simply clicking on the thumb or the slideshow item. Maybe I need to hack my own
> > version to get what I need. THat's why OSS would be nice.
> > 
> > -b.
> > 
> Jalbum can do that. There is an option for clicking to the original resolution in the 'Pages' tab in the options. You can choose to 'Link to scaled-down images only', 'Link to originals' and 'Link to originals via scaled images'.
> 
> Not that I am trying to push jalbum, but it may be able to do what you want until you can find something open source.

Ahh, thanks! I missed this option. Yes, that will do nicely for now.

-b.
From gregswift at gmail.com  Mon May 25 16:54:33 2009
From: gregswift at gmail.com (Greg Swift)
Date: Mon May 25 16:54:38 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <a3da29ef0905250649p239706e8g308bb8b1a04e33a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <580348.47856.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<a3da29ef0905250649p239706e8g308bb8b1a04e33a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4e3f91d70905251454x72191cecj3467f504fc064049@mail.gmail.com>

So if you are on GVTC's network respond to this post with the following:

1: Where you live (city)
2: type of service (dsl, cable, dial, fiber)
3: your current ip
4: whether or not you can reach http://www.satlug.org (or feel free to
provide other examples of sites at rackspace or another you can't reach).

I used to handle their BGP routing, and i know they jacked with it since I
left so I can at least yell at the right person, but having solid data would
be helpful.

-greg

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:49, Matt Graham <matt@thegrahamfam.com> wrote:

> I have had GVTC for years and have NEVER had issue access in SATLUG or
> ubuntu.com..interesting.
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Enrique Sanchez Vela <
> esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > A few days ago I was having problems accessing ubuntu.com so I open a
> call
> > with GVTC folks, after a rough start I finally got to knowledgeable
> support
> > folks who got surprised by the fact and took a stab at the issue, after a
> > few hours they fixed the problem, it has been working since then, I just
> > tested http://www.nmra.org.au/ and it is working fine too.
> >
> > SATLUG's..., well, we're not there yet.
> >
> > best regards,
> > esv.
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <
> satlug@satlug.org
> > >
> > > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:36 AM
> > > I have had the same problem for a
> > > long time.  I contacted GVTC support and they say it is
> > > Rackspace's fault and refuse to look into the problem.
> > >
> > > I also have problems in not getting to http://www.nmra.org.au/ which
> is
> > also on Rackspace.
> > >
> > > I have to goto where I am not on GVTC to reach both.
> > > I tried to ask Rackspace support for help, but they say
> > > since I am not one of their customers they can not
> > > help.  [Tom, are you reading this?]
> > >
> > > Nathan
> > >
> > > --- esanchezvela@yahoo.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> > > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org
> >
> > > Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's
> > > network.
> > > Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access the group's
> > > website and discussion list on the web, I get an error
> > > message, I've tried accessing the group's web page and
> > > archive list from a different network and it works like a
> > > charm.
> > >
> > > I would like to know if anyone on gvtc's network can also
> > > access it or has the same problems as I am having.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > esv.
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > >
> >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > unsubscribe
> > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > unsubscribe
> > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> >
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
>
From jbharrell at fusemeister.com  Mon May 25 19:25:23 2009
From: jbharrell at fusemeister.com (Brinkley Harrell)
Date: Mon May 25 19:25:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905251617.n4PGHUq6012525@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
References: <200905251617.n4PGHUq6012525@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
Message-ID: <4A1B36F3.1040809@fusemeister.com>

Borries Demeler wrote:
> Satluggers, 
> I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> on the web from a bunch of pictures.
>
> I want to be able to control background, border, and be able to have a thumbnail
> image of adjustable scale, which is then a link to the full-res image file, and 
> navigation controls. Suggestions?
>
> Thanks, -b.
>   

Take a look at Google's Picasa 3.0 for Linux:

http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html

B.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Brinkley Harrell
http://www.fusemeister.com

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Mon May 25 22:02:52 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Mon May 25 22:02:54 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905251805.n4PI54tW016538@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
References: <200905251805.n4PI54tW016538@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
Message-ID: <1243306972.4008.1.camel@redpill-laptop>

I know that this will probably not suit your specific needs but isn't
there a way to integrate (or create) a flikr slide show then enbed that
into your website?
Todd

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 13:05 -0500, Borries Demeler wrote:
> > 
> > I would also suggest looking into impress.  While it is not necessarily
> > open-source (probably open-access better describes the OO suite) it will
> > get the job done quite well and IMO the most feature complete portions
> > of the OO suite.
> > 
> > Todd
> 
> No, I am not thinking of a powerpoint presentation replacement, yes, Impress is
> good and I use it exclusively for what it is designed - the html export is way too
> inflexible - for example, it does not permit linking thumbs to hi-rez images, and 
> doesn't allow me to set arbitrary resolutions for thumbs. I was looking for a
> program that specifically generates web pages for a collection of slides and images.
> 
> What I am using now is called "xnview". It comes pretty close, but isn't OSS and 
> lacks some features I need.
> 
> Thanks, -Borries
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:39 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> > > Borries Demeler wrote:
> > > > Satluggers, 
> > > > I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> > > > on the web from a bunch of pictures.
> > > > 
> > > > I want to be able to control background, border, and be able to have a thumbnail
> > > > image of adjustable scale, which is then a link to the full-res image file, and 
> > > > navigation controls. Suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, -b.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Impress which is part of OpenOffice is no different than PowerPoint.  I 
> > > have used it to pass a M$Office class with an A.  Peace, Dennis in Victoria
> > 
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > 
> 

From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Mon May 25 22:08:09 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Mon May 25 22:08:12 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <200905251805.n4PI54tW016538@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
References: <200905251805.n4PI54tW016538@biochem.uthscsa.edu>
Message-ID: <1243307289.4008.2.camel@redpill-laptop>

I thought there was a way to create slideshows with flikr and then
integrate them into a website.  

http://www.flickrslideshow.com/

Todd



On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 13:05 -0500, Borries Demeler wrote:
> > 
> > I would also suggest looking into impress.  While it is not necessarily
> > open-source (probably open-access better describes the OO suite) it will
> > get the job done quite well and IMO the most feature complete portions
> > of the OO suite.
> > 
> > Todd
> 
> No, I am not thinking of a powerpoint presentation replacement, yes, Impress is
> good and I use it exclusively for what it is designed - the html export is way too
> inflexible - for example, it does not permit linking thumbs to hi-rez images, and 
> doesn't allow me to set arbitrary resolutions for thumbs. I was looking for a
> program that specifically generates web pages for a collection of slides and images.
> 
> What I am using now is called "xnview". It comes pretty close, but isn't OSS and 
> lacks some features I need.
> 
> Thanks, -Borries
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:39 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> > > Borries Demeler wrote:
> > > > Satluggers, 
> > > > I am looking for a feature-rich OSS Linux program to create quickly a slideshow
> > > > on the web from a bunch of pictures.
> > > > 
> > > > I want to be able to control background, border, and be able to have a thumbnail
> > > > image of adjustable scale, which is then a link to the full-res image file, and 
> > > > navigation controls. Suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, -b.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Impress which is part of OpenOffice is no different than PowerPoint.  I 
> > > have used it to pass a M$Office class with an A.  Peace, Dennis in Victoria
> > 
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > 
> 

From afcasta at satx.rr.com  Mon May 25 22:28:45 2009
From: afcasta at satx.rr.com (Al Castanoli)
Date: Mon May 25 22:28:50 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] problems booting from a dvd
In-Reply-To: <123894.53242.qm@web50402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <123894.53242.qm@web50402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1243308525.4136.0.camel@picotriffid>

The F9 key calls the boot menu on my HP.

Al Castanoli

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 14:00 -0700, That clown again.... wrote:
> --- On Mon, 5/25/09, John D Choate <jdchoate@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I am not sure if the HP machines can do this, but on Dell machines you can press F12 to force the boot device. Maybe try that.
> 
> Would suggest that or Esc or other F1, F2, F3, etc. to find a boot menu. Or if the DVD is just trash go with a USB drive. There's also a net boot and install. 
> 
> 
> 
>       

From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu  Mon May 25 22:30:16 2009
From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler)
Date: Mon May 25 22:30:35 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
In-Reply-To: <1243307289.4008.2.camel@redpill-laptop>
Message-ID: <200905260330.n4Q3UG8M008181@biochem.uthscsa.edu>

> 
> I thought there was a way to create slideshows with flikr and then
> integrate them into a website.  
> 
> http://www.flickrslideshow.com/
> 
> Todd

Thanks for all who responded! The jalbum application does the trick for me nicely.
Thanks again, -borries
From gregswift at gmail.com  Tue May 26 21:35:36 2009
From: gregswift at gmail.com (Greg Swift)
Date: Tue May 26 21:35:39 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <620960.21236.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <620960.21236.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e3f91d70905261935o300555c1g9b8cc7bdca0f99e0@mail.gmail.com>

no one else?  I'm on the same /17 and can not access satlug.org.  Anyone on
GVTC that can traceroute give me a cut&paste.  Here is what mine looks like
at the moment.


traceroute to 72.3.226.68 (72.3.226.68), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.984 ms  1.690 ms  47.967 ms
 2  96-8-128-2.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.128.2)  114.030 ms  114.895 ms  115.582
ms
 3  96-8-191-18.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.191.18)  117.274 ms  118.211 ms
118.899 ms
 4  12.88.244.241 (12.88.244.241)  121.460 ms  121.760 ms  122.952 ms
 5  cr1.santx.ip.att.net (12.123.154.10)  132.669 ms  133.591 ms  133.819 ms
 6  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.30.130)  135.631 ms  39.272 ms  37.890 ms
 7  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.138.125)  38.099 ms  38.786 ms  39.501
ms^C
[root@five ~]# traceroute 72.3.226.68
traceroute to 72.3.226.68 (72.3.226.68), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.876 ms * *
 2  96-8-128-2.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.128.2)  154.787 ms  155.666 ms  156.849
ms
 3  96-8-191-18.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.191.18)  157.562 ms  158.479 ms
159.411 ms
 4  12.88.244.241 (12.88.244.241)  161.094 ms  162.032 ms  162.972 ms
 5  cr1.santx.ip.att.net (12.123.154.10)  172.818 ms  173.234 ms  174.917 ms
 6  * cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.30.130)  38.787 ms  38.171 ms
 7  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.138.125)  38.520 ms  41.215 ms  41.265 ms
 8  * * *
 9  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com (72.3.128.21)  44.920 ms  45.936 ms
46.915 ms
10  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net (72.3.129.11)  47.823 ms  49.014 ms  50.183 ms
11  * * *
...
30  * * *

Would be helpful to see someone's that can get there.

-greg

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 18:09, Enrique Sanchez Vela
<esanchezvela@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
> IP address:  96.8.199.188
> Netmask:     255.255.252.0
> Default GW:  96.8.196.1
> Status:   I can not access www.satlug.org
>
> I live in Boerne,  and my service is FTTH.
>
> thank you,
> Enrique Sanchez.
>
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Support the troops, bring them home.
>
>
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
>
>
> --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org
> >
> > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 5:54 PM
> > So if you are on GVTC's network
> > respond to this post with the following:
> >
> > 1: Where you live (city)
> > 2: type of service (dsl, cable, dial, fiber)
> > 3: your current ip
> > 4: whether or not you can reach http://www.satlug.org (or feel free to
> > provide other examples of sites at rackspace or another you
> > can't reach).
> >
> > I used to handle their BGP routing, and i know they jacked
> > with it since I
> > left so I can at least yell at the right person, but having
> > solid data would
> > be helpful.
> >
> > -greg
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:49, Matt Graham <matt@thegrahamfam.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have had GVTC for years and have NEVER had issue
> > access in SATLUG or
> > > ubuntu.com..interesting.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Enrique Sanchez Vela
> > <
> > > esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A few days ago I was having problems accessing
> > ubuntu.com so I open a
> > > call
> > > > with GVTC folks, after a rough start I finally
> > got to knowledgeable
> > > support
> > > > folks who got surprised by the fact and took a
> > stab at the issue, after a
> > > > few hours they fixed the problem, it has been
> > working since then, I just
> > > > tested http://www.nmra.org.au/ and it is working
> > fine too.
> > > >
> > > > SATLUG's..., well, we're not there yet.
> > > >
> > > > best regards,
> > > > esv.
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org
> > from GVTC's network.
> > > > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group
> > Mailing List" <
> > > satlug@satlug.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:36 AM
> > > > > I have had the same problem for a
> > > > > long time.  I contacted GVTC support
> > and they say it is
> > > > > Rackspace's fault and refuse to look into
> > the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also have problems in not getting to http://www.nmra.org.au/which
> > > is
> > > > also on Rackspace.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have to goto where I am not on GVTC to
> > reach both.
> > > > > I tried to ask Rackspace support for help,
> > but they say
> > > > > since I am not one of their customers they
> > can not
> > > > > help.  [Tom, are you reading this?]
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathan
> > > > >
> > > > > --- esanchezvela@yahoo.com
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group
> > Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org
> > > >
> > > > > Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from
> > GVTC's
> > > > > network.
> > > > > Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access
> > the group's
> > > > > website and discussion list on the web, I
> > get an error
> > > > > message, I've tried accessing the group's
> > web page and
> > > > > archive list from a different network and it
> > works like a
> > > > > charm.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to know if anyone on gvtc's
> > network can also
> > > > > access it or has the same problems as I am
> > having.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > esv.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > > > unsubscribe
> > > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > > > unsubscribe
> > > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > unsubscribe
> > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > unsubscribe
> > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> >
>
>
>
>
From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org  Tue May 26 22:07:07 2009
From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tweeks)
Date: Tue May 26 22:07:10 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Dell Mini 10 with Ubuntu!
In-Reply-To: <1243025805.19880.2.camel@james-desktop>
References: <d92eb230905212127w47c41033idc963ddf20d94593@mail.gmail.com>
	<d92eb230905221300l96f5db6s8a9fd3ae96d301cf@mail.gmail.com>
	<1243025805.19880.2.camel@james-desktop>
Message-ID: <200905262207.07837.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org>

We just did an informal talk on Stock Linux OEM laptops at XCSSA.  I showed my 
Linux Certified 2100S (came wit Ubuntu installed), my wife's Dell mini-9 with 
Ubuntu 9.10 installed, and the Dell mini-10 that I'm getting from work (XP 
installed.. but I may wipe it).

Tweeks


On Friday 22 May 2009 03:56:45 pm James Tiner wrote:
> Steven Vaughn-Nichols really likes the new Latitude Netbook with Linux.
>
> http://blogs.computerworld.com/a_for_dells_new_ubuntu_linux_netbook
>
> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 15:00 -0500, Jennie Haywood wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Greg Willden <gwillden@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Here is a nice video of 3 Dell Mini 10v computers.
> > > One with Dell's version of linux, one with Ubuntu and one with
> > > Google's Android OS.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HliEujxRoYQ
> > >
> > > Greg
> >
> > Thanks Greg!  That's a nice video......
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jennie Haywood
> > ----
> > Everyone is crazy. It's just a matter of degree.
> > --
> > The oak tree in your backyard is just a nut that held its ground.


From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org  Tue May 26 22:09:37 2009
From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tweeks)
Date: Tue May 26 22:09:40 2009
Subject: Fwd: [SATLUG] Sparc 5
Message-ID: <200905262209.37638.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org>

Forwarding to XCSSA.. We have quite a few Sun guys over there.. A couple of 
which run NetBSD on them. :)

Tweeks
From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org  Tue May 26 22:21:39 2009
From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tweeks)
Date: Tue May 26 22:21:42 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <4e3f91d70905261935o300555c1g9b8cc7bdca0f99e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <620960.21236.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4e3f91d70905261935o300555c1g9b8cc7bdca0f99e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905262221.39351.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org>

You can't use traceroute to test all the way through the Rackspace edge 
devices.  We don't ICMP reply on our edges.. so it just times out.. Although 
you can ping through.

Tweeks

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 09:35:36 pm Greg Swift wrote:
> no one else?  I'm on the same /17 and can not access satlug.org.  Anyone on
> GVTC that can traceroute give me a cut&paste.  Here is what mine looks like
> at the moment.
>
>
> traceroute to 72.3.226.68 (72.3.226.68), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.984 ms  1.690 ms  47.967 ms
>  2  96-8-128-2.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.128.2)  114.030 ms  114.895 ms 
> 115.582 ms
>  3  96-8-191-18.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.191.18)  117.274 ms  118.211 ms
> 118.899 ms
>  4  12.88.244.241 (12.88.244.241)  121.460 ms  121.760 ms  122.952 ms
>  5  cr1.santx.ip.att.net (12.123.154.10)  132.669 ms  133.591 ms  133.819
> ms 6  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.30.130)  135.631 ms  39.272 ms  37.890
> ms 7  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.138.125)  38.099 ms  38.786 ms  39.501
> ms^C
> [root@five ~]# traceroute 72.3.226.68
> traceroute to 72.3.226.68 (72.3.226.68), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.876 ms * *
>  2  96-8-128-2.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.128.2)  154.787 ms  155.666 ms 
> 156.849 ms
>  3  96-8-191-18.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.191.18)  157.562 ms  158.479 ms
> 159.411 ms
>  4  12.88.244.241 (12.88.244.241)  161.094 ms  162.032 ms  162.972 ms
>  5  cr1.santx.ip.att.net (12.123.154.10)  172.818 ms  173.234 ms  174.917
> ms 6  * cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.30.130)  38.787 ms  38.171 ms
>  7  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.138.125)  38.520 ms  41.215 ms  41.265
> ms 8  * * *
>  9  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com (72.3.128.21)  44.920 ms  45.936 ms
> 46.915 ms
> 10  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net (72.3.129.11)  47.823 ms  49.014 ms  50.183
> ms 11  * * *
> ...
> 30  * * *
>
> Would be helpful to see someone's that can get there.
>
> -greg
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 18:09, Enrique Sanchez Vela
>
> <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>wrote:
> > IP address:  96.8.199.188
> > Netmask:     255.255.252.0
> > Default GW:  96.8.196.1
> > Status:   I can not access www.satlug.org
> >
> > I live in Boerne,  and my service is FTTH.
> >
> > thank you,
> > Enrique Sanchez.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> >
> > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> >
> > http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Ite
> >mid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > From: Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List"
> > > <satlug@satlug.org
> > >
> > > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 5:54 PM
> > > So if you are on GVTC's network
> > > respond to this post with the following:
> > >
> > > 1: Where you live (city)
> > > 2: type of service (dsl, cable, dial, fiber)
> > > 3: your current ip
> > > 4: whether or not you can reach http://www.satlug.org (or feel free to
> > > provide other examples of sites at rackspace or another you
> > > can't reach).
> > >
> > > I used to handle their BGP routing, and i know they jacked
> > > with it since I
> > > left so I can at least yell at the right person, but having
> > > solid data would
> > > be helpful.
> > >
> > > -greg
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:49, Matt Graham <matt@thegrahamfam.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have had GVTC for years and have NEVER had issue
> > >
> > > access in SATLUG or
> > >
> > > > ubuntu.com..interesting.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Enrique Sanchez Vela
> > >
> > > <
> > >
> > > > esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > A few days ago I was having problems accessing
> > >
> > > ubuntu.com so I open a
> > >
> > > > call
> > > >
> > > > > with GVTC folks, after a rough start I finally
> > >
> > > got to knowledgeable
> > >
> > > > support
> > > >
> > > > > folks who got surprised by the fact and took a
> > >
> > > stab at the issue, after a
> > >
> > > > > few hours they fixed the problem, it has been
> > >
> > > working since then, I just
> > >
> > > > > tested http://www.nmra.org.au/ and it is working
> > >
> > > fine too.
> > >
> > > > > SATLUG's..., well, we're not there yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > best regards,
> > > > > esv.
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> > http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Ite
> >mid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> > > > > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > From: Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org
> > >
> > > from GVTC's network.
> > >
> > > > > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group
> > >
> > > Mailing List" <
> > >
> > > > satlug@satlug.org
> > > >
> > > > > > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:36 AM
> > > > > > I have had the same problem for a
> > > > > > long time.  I contacted GVTC support
> > >
> > > and they say it is
> > >
> > > > > > Rackspace's fault and refuse to look into
> > >
> > > the problem.
> > >
> > > > > > I also have problems in not getting to
> > > > > > http://www.nmra.org.au/which
> > > >
> > > > is
> > > >
> > > > > also on Rackspace.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have to goto where I am not on GVTC to
> > >
> > > reach both.
> > >
> > > > > > I tried to ask Rackspace support for help,
> > >
> > > but they say
> > >
> > > > > > since I am not one of their customers they
> > >
> > > can not
> > >
> > > > > > help.  [Tom, are you reading this?]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nathan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- esanchezvela@yahoo.com
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group
> > >
> > > Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org
> > >
> > > > > > Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from
> > >
> > > GVTC's
> > >
> > > > > > network.
> > > > > > Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access
> > >
> > > the group's
> > >
> > > > > > website and discussion list on the web, I
> > >
> > > get an error
> > >
> > > > > > message, I've tried accessing the group's
> > >
> > > web page and
> > >
> > > > > > archive list from a different network and it
> > >
> > > works like a
> > >
> > > > > > charm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to know if anyone on gvtc's
> > >
> > > network can also
> > >
> > > > > > access it or has the same problems as I am
> > >
> > > having.
> > >
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > esv.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> > http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Ite
> >mid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> > > > > > --
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > > > > unsubscribe
> > > > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > > > > unsubscribe
> > > > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > >
> > > unsubscribe
> > >
> > > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > >
> > > unsubscribe
> > >
> > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > unsubscribe
> > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)


From horned0wl93 at gmail.com  Tue May 26 23:08:05 2009
From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed)
Date: Tue May 26 23:13:12 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Active Directory/Domain question.
Message-ID: <4A1CBCA5.80409@gmail.com>

Hi All!!  :)

I'm in need of a suggestion or two...  Using a package called 
"likewise-open," I've gotten an Ubuntu workstation to join a Windows 
2003-based domain via Active Directory.  Since the hook-up, I've had 
several folk test it by logging-into their own Active Directory  
accounts on the Ubuntu machine -- all successfully. 

My problem is functionality once connected to the domain.  I can still 
log into the local machine, and I have a default setup in its local 
//home/ folder (common wallpaper, all the apps common users on this 
domain need to access) that I'd like to have become the default folder  
for anyone logging onto the domain through this Ubuntu box.  I've done 
it in Windows, but am unsure how to do it in Debian/Ubuntu.  Is there a 
"default user" or "all users" capability in Debian/Ubuntu?  If so, any 
suggestions on how to set it up?

Any help appreciated.  Thanks in advance...


Cheers;
Ed
(Please note:  BCCs are info only.)
From ovalvw57 at yahoo.com  Wed May 27 02:00:07 2009
From: ovalvw57 at yahoo.com (That clown again....)
Date: Wed May 27 02:00:11 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] slideshow program
Message-ID: <873046.28452.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net> wrote:

From: Todd W. Bucy <toddwbucy@grandecom.net>
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] slideshow program
To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 10:02 PM

> I know that this will probably not suit your specific needs but isn't
> there a way to integrate (or create) a flikr slide show then enbed that
> into your website?


Tilt Viewer does a very cool job of that.

http://www.airtightinteractive.com/projects/tiltviewer/app/



      
From nathan at gvtc.com  Wed May 27 07:25:24 2009
From: nathan at gvtc.com (Nathan)
Date: Wed May 27 07:25:27 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <20090527052524.693B90DF@resin18.mta.everyone.net>

The problem is if I try and ping satlug.org or it's ip address I get a time out.  I am sure it is a GVTC problem, but have no way to prove it.

--- tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org wrote:

From: Tweeks <tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org>
To: satlug@satlug.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:21:39 -0500

You can't use traceroute to test all the way through the Rackspace edge 
devices.  We don't ICMP reply on our edges.. so it just times out.. Although 
you can ping through.

Tweeks

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 09:35:36 pm Greg Swift wrote:
> no one else?  I'm on the same /17 and can not access satlug.org.  Anyone on
> GVTC that can traceroute give me a cut&paste.  Here is what mine looks like
> at the moment.
>
>
> traceroute to 72.3.226.68 (72.3.226.68), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.984 ms  1.690 ms  47.967 ms
>  2  96-8-128-2.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.128.2)  114.030 ms  114.895 ms 
> 115.582 ms
>  3  96-8-191-18.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.191.18)  117.274 ms  118.211 ms
> 118.899 ms
>  4  12.88.244.241 (12.88.244.241)  121.460 ms  121.760 ms  122.952 ms
>  5  cr1.santx.ip.att.net (12.123.154.10)  132.669 ms  133.591 ms  133.819
> ms 6  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.30.130)  135.631 ms  39.272 ms  37.890
> ms 7  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.138.125)  38.099 ms  38.786 ms  39.501
> ms^C
> [root@five ~]# traceroute 72.3.226.68
> traceroute to 72.3.226.68 (72.3.226.68), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.876 ms * *
>  2  96-8-128-2.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.128.2)  154.787 ms  155.666 ms 
> 156.849 ms
>  3  96-8-191-18.block0.gvtc.com (96.8.191.18)  157.562 ms  158.479 ms
> 159.411 ms
>  4  12.88.244.241 (12.88.244.241)  161.094 ms  162.032 ms  162.972 ms
>  5  cr1.santx.ip.att.net (12.123.154.10)  172.818 ms  173.234 ms  174.917
> ms 6  * cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.30.130)  38.787 ms  38.171 ms
>  7  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.138.125)  38.520 ms  41.215 ms  41.265
> ms 8  * * *
>  9  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com (72.3.128.21)  44.920 ms  45.936 ms
> 46.915 ms
> 10  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net (72.3.129.11)  47.823 ms  49.014 ms  50.183
> ms 11  * * *
> ...
> 30  * * *
>
> Would be helpful to see someone's that can get there.
>
> -greg
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 18:09, Enrique Sanchez Vela
>
> <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>wrote:
> > IP address:  96.8.199.188
> > Netmask:     255.255.252.0
> > Default GW:  96.8.196.1
> > Status:   I can not access www.satlug.org
> >
> > I live in Boerne,  and my service is FTTH.
> >
> > thank you,
> > Enrique Sanchez.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> >
> > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> >
> > http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Ite
> >mid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > From: Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List"
> > > <satlug@satlug.org
> > >
> > > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 5:54 PM
> > > So if you are on GVTC's network
> > > respond to this post with the following:
> > >
> > > 1: Where you live (city)
> > > 2: type of service (dsl, cable, dial, fiber)
> > > 3: your current ip
> > > 4: whether or not you can reach http://www.satlug.org (or feel free to
> > > provide other examples of sites at rackspace or another you
> > > can't reach).
> > >
> > > I used to handle their BGP routing, and i know they jacked
> > > with it since I
> > > left so I can at least yell at the right person, but having
> > > solid data would
> > > be helpful.
> > >
> > > -greg
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:49, Matt Graham <matt@thegrahamfam.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have had GVTC for years and have NEVER had issue
> > >
> > > access in SATLUG or
> > >
> > > > ubuntu.com..interesting.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Enrique Sanchez Vela
> > >
> > > <
> > >
> > > > esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > A few days ago I was having problems accessing
> > >
> > > ubuntu.com so I open a
> > >
> > > > call
> > > >
> > > > > with GVTC folks, after a rough start I finally
> > >
> > > got to knowledgeable
> > >
> > > > support
> > > >
> > > > > folks who got surprised by the fact and took a
> > >
> > > stab at the issue, after a
> > >
> > > > > few hours they fixed the problem, it has been
> > >
> > > working since then, I just
> > >
> > > > > tested http://www.nmra.org.au/ and it is working
> > >
> > > fine too.
> > >
> > > > > SATLUG's..., well, we're not there yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > best regards,
> > > > > esv.
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> > http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Ite
> >mid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> > > > > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > From: Nathan <nathan@gvtc.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org
> > >
> > > from GVTC's network.
> > >
> > > > > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group
> > >
> > > Mailing List" <
> > >
> > > > satlug@satlug.org
> > > >
> > > > > > Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:36 AM
> > > > > > I have had the same problem for a
> > > > > > long time.  I contacted GVTC support
> > >
> > > and they say it is
> > >
> > > > > > Rackspace's fault and refuse to look into
> > >
> > > the problem.
> > >
> > > > > > I also have problems in not getting to
> > > > > > http://www.nmra.org.au/which
> > > >
> > > > is
> > > >
> > > > > also on Rackspace.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have to goto where I am not on GVTC to
> > >
> > > reach both.
> > >
> > > > > > I tried to ask Rackspace support for help,
> > >
> > > but they say
> > >
> > > > > > since I am not one of their customers they
> > >
> > > can not
> > >
> > > > > > help.  [Tom, are you reading this?]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nathan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- esanchezvela@yahoo.com
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group
> > >
> > > Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org
> > >
> > > > > > Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from
> > >
> > > GVTC's
> > >
> > > > > > network.
> > > > > > Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access
> > >
> > > the group's
> > >
> > > > > > website and discussion list on the web, I
> > >
> > > get an error
> > >
> > > > > > message, I've tried accessing the group's
> > >
> > > web page and
> > >
> > > > > > archive list from a different network and it
> > >
> > > works like a
> > >
> > > > > > charm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to know if anyone on gvtc's
> > >
> > > network can also
> > >
> > > > > > access it or has the same problems as I am
> > >
> > > having.
> > >
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > esv.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> >
> > http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Ite
> >mid=74&jumival=2924
> >
> > > > > > --
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > > > > unsubscribe
> > > > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > > > > unsubscribe
> > > > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > >
> > > unsubscribe
> > >
> > > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > >
> > > unsubscribe
> > >
> > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > unsubscribe
> > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)


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From riugakusei at aim.com  Wed May 27 08:08:40 2009
From: riugakusei at aim.com (riugakusei@aim.com)
Date: Wed May 27 08:09:03 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
Message-ID: <8CBACE363B574DA-F88-54@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com>

i am running suse 11.1 on a hp pavilion dv6000 wireless card "atheros AR007". i had to blacklist ath5k module... because its not compatible with my card .. after i blacklisted that module i installed madwifi, but my card still not working
this is wat i get "
inux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep ath
ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
ath_hal: 0.9.18.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
ath_pci: 0.9.4
ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LK4E] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled

linux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep wifi
wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)

?any suggestions here? anything is welcome thanks in advance

Vega
From toddwbucy at grandecom.net  Wed May 27 08:32:14 2009
From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy)
Date: Wed May 27 08:32:16 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
In-Reply-To: <8CBACE363B574DA-F88-54@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CBACE363B574DA-F88-54@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1243431134.6472.0.camel@redpill-laptop>

I know its not the best method but if the revision is not supported you
might want to try ndiswrapper

Todd

On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 09:08 -0400, riugakusei@aim.com wrote:
> i am running suse 11.1 on a hp pavilion dv6000 wireless card "atheros AR007". i had to blacklist ath5k module... because its not compatible with my card .. after i blacklisted that module i installed madwifi, but my card still not working
> this is wat i get "
> inux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep ath
> ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
> ath_hal: 0.9.18.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
> ath_pci: 0.9.4
> ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LK4E] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
> ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
> ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
> 
> linux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep wifi
> wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)
> 
> ?any suggestions here? anything is welcome thanks in advance
> 
> Vega

From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Wed May 27 08:38:14 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Wed May 27 08:38:16 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <346616.24558.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





--- On Tue, 5/26/09, Tweeks <tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> wrote:

> From: Tweeks <tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> To: satlug@satlug.org
> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 11:21 PM
> You can't use traceroute to test all
> the way through the Rackspace edge 
> devices.  We don't ICMP reply on our edges.. so it
> just times out.. Although 
> you can ping through.
> 
> Tweeks
> 

it looks like I can, but this is from a different network.


 1  170.230.113.254 (170.230.113.254)  1 ms  1 ms  0 ms
 2  170.230.114.145 (170.230.114.145)  1 ms  1 ms  0 ms
 3  170.230.114.225 (170.230.114.225)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
 4  170.230.114.149 (170.230.114.149)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
 5  170.230.114.97 (170.230.114.97)  9 ms  9 ms  9 ms
 6  170.230.37.45 (170.230.37.45)  9 ms  11 ms  12 ms
 7  10.1.15.5 (10.1.15.5)  9 ms  13 ms  10 ms
 8  170.230.50.91 (170.230.50.91)  15 ms  17 ms  18 ms
 9  65.90.202.1 (65.90.202.1)  17 ms  12 ms  11 ms
10  t3-3-2-0-5.edge1.NewYork5.Level3.net (65.90.199.161)  14 ms  22 ms  17 ms
11  ae-13-13.car1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.59.26)  15 ms  15 ms  14 ms
12  vlan89.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.190)  17 ms  16 ms  19 ms
13  ae-84-84.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.121)  14 ms  18 ms  20 ms
14  ae-3.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.137.121)  60 ms  61 ms  54 ms
15  ae-82-82.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.146)  55 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.142)  56 ms  56 ms
16  ae-3-89.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net (4.68.19.140)  54 ms  50 ms ae-4-99.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net (4.68.19.204)  49 ms
17  RACKSPACE-M.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net (4.59.36.50)  51 ms  51 ms  51 ms
18  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com (72.3.128.21)  52 ms  53 ms  55 ms
19  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net (72.3.129.11)  53 ms  52 ms  50 ms
20  satlug.org (72.3.226.68)  53 ms  53 ms  51 ms


 best regards,
esv.


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From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Wed May 27 08:51:00 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Wed May 27 08:51:02 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <987847.33436.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





--- On Tue, 5/26/09, Tweeks <tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> wrote:

> From: Tweeks <tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> To: satlug@satlug.org
> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 11:21 PM
> You can't use traceroute to test all
> the way through the Rackspace edge 
> devices.  We don't ICMP reply on our edges.. so it
> just times out.. Although 
> you can ping through.
> 
> Tweeks


the way traceroute works, at least the way I understood it, if I did understand it, is to create a series of packets increasing the TTL by one, if a packet does not return in a given time-out, it just prints * * * and continues up the chain, so a couple of firewalls or securely configured routers should not prevent the traceroute to arrive to the final destination.

here is another traceroute, using a different network than the previous one.

 1  10.205.40.2 (10.205.40.2)  1 ms  0 ms  0 ms
 2  <removed> (<removed>)  1 ms  1 ms  1 ms
 3  <removed> (<removed>)  2 ms  1 ms  1 ms
 4  * * *
 5  <removed> (<removed>)  6 ms  6 ms  5 ms
 6  cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.130.134)  49 ms  49 ms  48 ms
 7  cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.122.3.38)  49 ms  49 ms  48 ms
 8  cr1.attga.ip.att.net (12.122.1.173)  49 ms  49 ms  49 ms
 9  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.28.174)  49 ms  49 ms  49 ms
10  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.138.121)  49 ms  49 ms  49 ms
11  12.87.41.178 (12.87.41.178)  50 ms  50 ms  50 ms
12  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com (72.3.128.21)  47 ms  48 ms  48 ms
13  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net (72.3.129.11)  48 ms  48 ms  48 ms
14  satlug.org (72.3.226.68)  48 ms  48 ms  48 ms



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From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Wed May 27 09:12:58 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Wed May 27 09:13:00 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <699596.71560.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



this looks really strange and the issue could be in Rackspace's side as I tested several IP addresses in SATLUG's website neighborhood  (from GVTC's network) and all of tham came back except satlug's 

here is the log...

 C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.1

Tracing route to 72.3.226.1 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     9 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
  3     8 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-191-30.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.191.30]
  4     9 ms     7 ms     8 ms  12.88.244.241
  5    13 ms    16 ms    16 ms  cr1.santx.ip.att.net [12.123.154.10]
  6    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.30.130]
  7    17 ms    15 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.125]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9    19 ms    20 ms    16 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com [72.3.128.21]
 10    20 ms    20 ms    19 ms  72.3.226.1

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.40

Tracing route to 113516-www1.freespirit.com [72.3.226.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     8 ms     8 ms     7 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
  3     8 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-191-30.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.191.30]
  4    37 ms     7 ms     8 ms  12.88.244.241
  5    16 ms    15 ms    16 ms  cr1.santx.ip.att.net [12.123.154.10]
  6    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.30.130]
  7    41 ms    15 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.125]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9   207 ms   213 ms   206 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com [72.3.128.21]
 10    19 ms    20 ms    20 ms  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net [72.3.129.11]
 11    21 ms    16 ms    20 ms  113516-www1.freespirit.com [72.3.226.40]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.65

Tracing route to 72.3.226.65 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     6 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
  3     8 ms     8 ms     7 ms  208-117-3-42.block5.gvtc.com [208.117.3.42]
  4    12 ms    11 ms    12 ms  12.89.191.213
  5    21 ms    14 ms    16 ms  cr2.hs1tx.ip.att.net [12.122.147.130]
  6    16 ms    15 ms    20 ms  cr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.157]
  7    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.139.125]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9    19 ms    19 ms    20 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com [72.3.128.21]
 10    19 ms    20 ms    20 ms  72.3.226.65

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.67

Tracing route to 72.3.226.67 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     5 ms     7 ms    16 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
  3     9 ms     7 ms     8 ms  208-117-3-42.block5.gvtc.com [208.117.3.42]
  4    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  12.89.191.213
  5    20 ms    16 ms    16 ms  cr2.hs1tx.ip.att.net [12.122.147.130]
  6    20 ms    15 ms    16 ms  cr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.157]
  7    16 ms    15 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.139.117]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9   151 ms   201 ms   201 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com [72.3.128.21]
 10    19 ms    20 ms    20 ms  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net [72.3.129.11]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *     ^C
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.69

Tracing route to www.tarascon.com [72.3.226.69]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     6 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
  3     9 ms     7 ms     8 ms  208-117-3-42.block5.gvtc.com [208.117.3.42]
  4    13 ms    11 ms    12 ms  12.89.191.213
  5    17 ms    19 ms    16 ms  cr2.hs1tx.ip.att.net [12.122.147.130]
  6    16 ms    20 ms    16 ms  cr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.157]
  7    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.139.117]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9   153 ms   201 ms   213 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com [72.3.128.21]
 10    18 ms    20 ms    19 ms  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net [72.3.129.11]
 11    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  www.tarascon.com [72.3.226.69]


      
From jtiner at satx.rr.com  Wed May 27 11:48:22 2009
From: jtiner at satx.rr.com (James Tiner)
Date: Wed May 27 11:48:26 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Active Directory/Domain question.
In-Reply-To: <4A1CBCA5.80409@gmail.com>
References: <4A1CBCA5.80409@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1243442902.25025.1.camel@james-desktop>

Not sure how open like-wise open works, but you could try adding common
things to /etc/skel which will create new users with whatever is
in /etc/skel. 

Worth a try...

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 23:08 -0500, ed wrote:
> Hi All!!  :)
> 
> I'm in need of a suggestion or two...  Using a package called 
> "likewise-open," I've gotten an Ubuntu workstation to join a Windows 
> 2003-based domain via Active Directory.  Since the hook-up, I've had 
> several folk test it by logging-into their own Active Directory  
> accounts on the Ubuntu machine -- all successfully. 
> 
> My problem is functionality once connected to the domain.  I can still 
> log into the local machine, and I have a default setup in its local 
> //home/ folder (common wallpaper, all the apps common users on this 
> domain need to access) that I'd like to have become the default folder  
> for anyone logging onto the domain through this Ubuntu box.  I've done 
> it in Windows, but am unsure how to do it in Debian/Ubuntu.  Is there a 
> "default user" or "all users" capability in Debian/Ubuntu?  If so, any 
> suggestions on how to set it up?
> 
> Any help appreciated.  Thanks in advance...
> 
> 
> Cheers;
> Ed
> (Please note:  BCCs are info only.)

From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Wed May 27 16:39:37 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Wed May 27 16:39:39 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
Message-ID: <257047.54214.qm@web55605.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


stupid question..

u sure you have a Atheros card in there?



--- On Wed, 5/27/09, riugakusei@aim.com <riugakusei@aim.com> wrote:

> From: riugakusei@aim.com <riugakusei@aim.com>
> Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
> To: satlug@satlug.org
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:08 AM
> i am running suse 11.1 on a hp
> pavilion dv6000 wireless card "atheros AR007". i had to
> blacklist ath5k module... because its not compatible with my
> card .. after i blacklisted that module i installed madwifi,
> but my card still not working
> this is wat i get "
> inux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep ath
> ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
> ath_hal: 0.9.18.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112,
> RF2413, RF5413)
> ath_pci: 0.9.4
> ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LK4E] -> GSI
> 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
> ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
> ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
> 
> linux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep wifi
> wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not
> supported' (HAL status 13)
> 
> ?any suggestions here? anything is welcome thanks in
> advance
> 
> Vega
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> unsubscribe
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From ve3cda at gmail.com  Wed May 27 17:30:53 2009
From: ve3cda at gmail.com (Ben Price)
Date: Wed May 27 17:30:59 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] Active Directory/Domain question.
In-Reply-To: <1243442902.25025.1.camel@james-desktop>
References: <4A1CBCA5.80409@gmail.com> <1243442902.25025.1.camel@james-desktop>
Message-ID: <cdeae12d0905271530q4d628d04m3af335a75a4fec22@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

Unfortunately, I don't have a response to the question. However, I would
very much enjoy seeing this as a topic for one of the SATLUG meetings
(presuming it can be resolved).

Regards

Ben Price
San Antonio

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:48 AM, James Tiner <jtiner@satx.rr.com> wrote:

> Not sure how open like-wise open works, but you could try adding common
> things to /etc/skel which will create new users with whatever is
> in /etc/skel.
>
> Worth a try...
>
> On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 23:08 -0500, ed wrote:
> > Hi All!!  :)
> >
> > I'm in need of a suggestion or two...  Using a package called
> > "likewise-open," I've gotten an Ubuntu workstation to join a Windows
> > 2003-based domain via Active Directory.  Since the hook-up, I've had
> > several folk test it by logging-into their own Active Directory
> > accounts on the Ubuntu machine -- all successfully.
> >
> > My problem is functionality once connected to the domain.  I can still
> > log into the local machine, and I have a default setup in its local
> > //home/ folder (common wallpaper, all the apps common users on this
> > domain need to access) that I'd like to have become the default folder
> > for anyone logging onto the domain through this Ubuntu box.  I've done
> > it in Windows, but am unsure how to do it in Debian/Ubuntu.  Is there a
> > "default user" or "all users" capability in Debian/Ubuntu?  If so, any
> > suggestions on how to set it up?
> >
> > Any help appreciated.  Thanks in advance...
> >
> >
> > Cheers;
> > Ed
> > (Please note:  BCCs are info only.)
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe
> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
>
From riugakusei at aim.com  Wed May 27 18:35:21 2009
From: riugakusei at aim.com (riugakusei@aim.com)
Date: Wed May 27 18:36:13 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
In-Reply-To: <257047.54214.qm@web55605.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <257047.54214.qm@web55605.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CBAD3AEFB1CAAD-6CC-EEA@WEBMAIL-DZ18.sysops.aol.com>

?i halinux-klc6:~ # lspci -vvv|grep Atheros
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
atheros AR5007 when i checked on vista in it


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org>
Sent: Wed, 27 May 2009 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1











stupid question..

u sure you have a Atheros card in there?



--- On Wed, 5/27/09, riugakusei@aim.com <riugakusei@aim.com> wrote:

> From: riugakusei@aim.com <riugakusei@aim.com>
> Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
> To: satlug@satlug.org
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:08 AM
> i am running suse 11.1 on a hp
> pavilion dv6000 wireless card "atheros AR007". i had to
> blacklist ath5k module... because its not compatible with my
> card .. after i blacklisted that module i installed madwifi,
> but my card still not working
> this is wat i get "
> inux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep ath
> ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
> ath_hal: 0.9.18.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112,
> RF2413, RF5413)
> ath_pci: 0.9.4
> ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LK4E] -> GSI
> 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
> ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
> ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
> 
> linux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep wifi
> wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not
> supported' (HAL status 13)
> 
> ?any suggestions here? anything is welcome thanks in
> advance
> 
> Vega
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> SATLUG mailing list
> SATLUG@satlug.org
> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> unsubscribe
> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> 


      
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From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Wed May 27 20:53:22 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Wed May 27 20:53:25 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
Message-ID: <974956.55750.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


Try here..

http://forums.opensuse.org/hardware/laptop/399180-atheros-wireless-card-misidentified-opensuse-11-0-a.html


--- On Wed, 5/27/09, riugakusei@aim.com <riugakusei@aim.com> wrote:

> From: riugakusei@aim.com <riugakusei@aim.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
> To: satlug@satlug.org
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 6:35 PM
> ?i halinux-klc6:~ # lspci -vvv|grep
> Atheros
> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc.
> AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
> atheros AR5007 when i checked on vista in it
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org>
> Sent: Wed, 27 May 2009 5:39 pm
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> stupid question..
> 
> u sure you have a Atheros card in there?
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, riugakusei@aim.com
> <riugakusei@aim.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: riugakusei@aim.com
> <riugakusei@aim.com>
> > Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
> > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:08 AM
> > i am running suse 11.1 on a hp
> > pavilion dv6000 wireless card "atheros AR007". i had
> to
> > blacklist ath5k module... because its not compatible
> with my
> > card .. after i blacklisted that module i installed
> madwifi,
> > but my card still not working
> > this is wat i get "
> > inux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep ath
> > ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
> > ath_hal: 0.9.18.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111,
> RF5112,
> > RF2413, RF5413)
> > ath_pci: 0.9.4
> > ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LK4E] ->
> GSI
> > 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
> > ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
> > ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
> > 
> > linux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep wifi
> > wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision
> not
> > supported' (HAL status 13)
> > 
> > ?any suggestions here? anything is welcome thanks in
> > advance
> > 
> > Vega
> > -- 
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From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Wed May 27 20:55:01 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Wed May 27 20:55:03 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <369726.56487.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com>



sometimes stuff just isnt easy... Ubuntu installer for 8.04 just sits at a tan screen.. no freezing just a mouse pointer.  It went through partitioning and "install" but it happened kinda quick.  Sigh.  I'm chugging away at it.

-Alex


      
From gregswift at gmail.com  Wed May 27 22:13:58 2009
From: gregswift at gmail.com (Greg Swift)
Date: Wed May 27 22:14:02 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <699596.71560.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <699596.71560.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e3f91d70905272013i1b64c91ehbbb8bb40b74f80bd@mail.gmail.com>

tweeks,

care to comment?

-greg

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:12, Enrique Sanchez Vela
<esanchezvela@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> this looks really strange and the issue could be in Rackspace's side as I
> tested several IP addresses in SATLUG's website neighborhood  (from GVTC's
> network) and all of tham came back except satlug's
>
> here is the log...
>
>  C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.1
>
> Tracing route to 72.3.226.1 over a maximum of 30 hops
>
>  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
>  2     9 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
>  3     8 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-191-30.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.191.30]
>  4     9 ms     7 ms     8 ms  12.88.244.241
>  5    13 ms    16 ms    16 ms  cr1.santx.ip.att.net [12.123.154.10]
>  6    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.30.130]
>  7    17 ms    15 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.125]
>  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>  9    19 ms    20 ms    16 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com[72.3.128.21]
>  10    20 ms    20 ms    19 ms  72.3.226.1
>
> Trace complete.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.40
>
> Tracing route to 113516-www1.freespirit.com [72.3.226.40]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
>  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
>  2     8 ms     8 ms     7 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
>  3     8 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-191-30.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.191.30]
>  4    37 ms     7 ms     8 ms  12.88.244.241
>  5    16 ms    15 ms    16 ms  cr1.santx.ip.att.net [12.123.154.10]
>  6    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.30.130]
>  7    41 ms    15 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.125]
>  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>  9   207 ms   213 ms   206 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com[72.3.128.21]
>  10    19 ms    20 ms    20 ms  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net [72.3.129.11]
>  11    21 ms    16 ms    20 ms  113516-www1.freespirit.com [72.3.226.40]
>
> Trace complete.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.65
>
> Tracing route to 72.3.226.65 over a maximum of 30 hops
>
>  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
>  2     6 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
>  3     8 ms     8 ms     7 ms  208-117-3-42.block5.gvtc.com [208.117.3.42]
>  4    12 ms    11 ms    12 ms  12.89.191.213
>  5    21 ms    14 ms    16 ms  cr2.hs1tx.ip.att.net [12.122.147.130]
>  6    16 ms    15 ms    20 ms  cr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.157]
>  7    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.139.125]
>  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>  9    19 ms    19 ms    20 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com[72.3.128.21]
>  10    19 ms    20 ms    20 ms  72.3.226.65
>
> Trace complete.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.67
>
> Tracing route to 72.3.226.67 over a maximum of 30 hops
>
>  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
>  2     5 ms     7 ms    16 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
>  3     9 ms     7 ms     8 ms  208-117-3-42.block5.gvtc.com [208.117.3.42]
>  4    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  12.89.191.213
>  5    20 ms    16 ms    16 ms  cr2.hs1tx.ip.att.net [12.122.147.130]
>  6    20 ms    15 ms    16 ms  cr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.157]
>  7    16 ms    15 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.139.117]
>  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>  9   151 ms   201 ms   201 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com[72.3.128.21]
>  10    19 ms    20 ms    20 ms  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net [72.3.129.11]
>  11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>  12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>  13     *     ^C
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 72.3.226.69
>
> Tracing route to www.tarascon.com [72.3.226.69]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
>  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
>  2     6 ms     7 ms     8 ms  96-8-196-2.block0.gvtc.com [96.8.196.2]
>  3     9 ms     7 ms     8 ms  208-117-3-42.block5.gvtc.com [208.117.3.42]
>  4    13 ms    11 ms    12 ms  12.89.191.213
>  5    17 ms    19 ms    16 ms  cr2.hs1tx.ip.att.net [12.122.147.130]
>  6    16 ms    20 ms    16 ms  cr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.157]
>  7    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.139.117]
>  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>  9   153 ms   201 ms   213 ms  vlan901.core1.dfw1.rackspace.com[72.3.128.21]
>  10    18 ms    20 ms    19 ms  aggr3a.dfw1.rackspace.net [72.3.129.11]
>  11    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  www.tarascon.com [72.3.226.69]
>
>
>
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From riugakusei at aim.com  Wed May 27 23:34:02 2009
From: riugakusei at aim.com (riugakusei@aim.com)
Date: Wed May 27 23:34:29 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
In-Reply-To: <974956.55750.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <974956.55750.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CBAD64A9867712-15D0-55A1@webmail-dh36.sysops.aol.com>


 thanks i found that? a few hrs ago... my wireless is working? i just whats

 bothering me....

linux-klc6:~ # iwconfig

ath0????? IEEE 802.11g? ESSID:""
????????? Mode:Managed? Frequency:2.437 GHz? Access Point: Not-Associated
????????? Bit Rate:0 kb/s?? Tx-Power:16 dBm?? Sensitivity=1
????????? Retry:off?? RTS thr:off?? Fragment thr:off
????????? Encryption key:off
????????? Power Management:off
????????? Link Quality=0/70? Signal level=-96 dBm? Noise level=-96 dBm
????????? Rx invalid nwid:10812? Rx invalid crypt:0? Rx invalid frag:0
????????? Tx excessive retries:0? Invalid misc:0?? Missed beacon:0


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org>
Sent: Wed, 27 May 2009 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1











Try here..

http://forums.opensuse.org/hardware/laptop/399180-atheros-wireless-card-misidentified-opensuse-11-0-a.html


--- On Wed, 5/27/09, riugakusei@aim.com <riugakusei@aim.com> wrote:

> From: riugakusei@aim.com <riugakusei@aim.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
> To: satlug@satlug.org
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 6:35 PM
> ?i halinux-klc6:~ # lspci -vvv|grep
> Atheros
> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc.
> AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
> atheros AR5007 when i checked on vista in it
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug@satlug.org>
> Sent: Wed, 27 May 2009 5:39 pm
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> stupid question..
> 
> u sure you have a Atheros card in there?
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, riugakusei@aim.com
> <riugakusei@aim.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: riugakusei@aim.com
> <riugakusei@aim.com>
> > Subject: [SATLUG] wifi suse 11.1
> > To: satlug@satlug.org
> > Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:08 AM
> > i am running suse 11.1 on a hp
> > pavilion dv6000 wireless card "atheros AR007". i had
> to
> > blacklist ath5k module... because its not compatible
> with my
> > card .. after i blacklisted that module i installed
> madwifi,
> > but my card still not working
> > this is wat i get "
> > inux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep ath
> > ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
> > ath_hal: 0.9.18.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111,
> RF5112,
> > RF2413, RF5413)
> > ath_pci: 0.9.4
> > ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LK4E] ->
> GSI
> > 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
> > ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
> > ath_pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
> > 
> > linux-hm7z:~ # dmesg|grep wifi
> > wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision
> not
> > supported' (HAL status 13)
> > 
> > ?any suggestions here? anything is welcome thanks in
> > advance
> > 
> > Vega
> > -- 
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> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
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From art.hall at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 27 23:48:30 2009
From: art.hall at sbcglobal.net (Arthur Hall)
Date: Wed May 27 23:48:32 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <797685.93205.qm@web82303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Even though an inadvertant "upgrade" to Ubuntu 9.04 seems to have been the cause of this mishap, I've had very good luck installing it on?nearly a dozen?PCs for refugee families.? The only complaints I've had were that it wouldn't play every kind of medium the teens and young people?put in and most of that was solved by installing the plugins readily available via the Internet.? The 9.04 version also has a set of icons available that are high contrast and large print that might be ideal for you, Cheryl.? If 8.04 (which I've used on several machines also) just won't work, you might want to try 9.04 on a clean boot from CD.? I have?copies that have?successfully installed the OS if it will help.? I'd be glad to make?one available.
Art Hall

--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:55 PM




sometimes stuff just isnt easy... Ubuntu installer for 8.04 just sits at a tan screen.. no freezing just a mouse pointer.? It went through partitioning and "install" but it happened kinda quick.? Sigh.? I'm chugging away at it.

-Alex


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From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Thu May 28 02:55:02 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Thu May 28 02:55:14 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <157287.31393.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:13 PM
> tweeks,
> 
> care to comment?
> 
> -greg
> 

if it were rackspace's fault I wouldn't be able to reach satlug.org from a different network and I can access it from 3 different networks just not GVTC's, unless there is a bad route on the server/router that would be affecting part of GVTC's network.

What really surprises me is that there so little effort/involvement  by SATLUG officials to have this problem cleared since it has the potential to deter people from joining the community.

best regards,
esv.



      
From corpustexn at yahoo.com  Thu May 28 09:57:23 2009
From: corpustexn at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Thu May 28 09:57:26 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <170410.86554.qm@web50012.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 2:55 AM
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Greg Swift <gregswift@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's
> network.
> > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List"
> <satlug@satlug.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:13 PM
> > tweeks,
> > 
> > care to comment?
> > 
> > -greg
> > 
> 
> if it were rackspace's fault I wouldn't be able to reach
> satlug.org from a different network and I can access it from
> 3 different networks just not GVTC's, unless there is a bad
> route on the server/router that would be affecting part of
> GVTC's network.
> 
> What really surprises me is that there so little
> effort/involvement? by SATLUG officials to have this
> problem cleared since it has the potential to deter people
> from joining the community.
> 
> best regards,
> esv.
> 
> I'm on clearwire wireless and cannot access satlug.org.  I remember a couple of years ago some discussion of blocking ip blocks to reduce activity from china or whatever.  Maybe unrelated.  
> 
> ? ? ? 
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From president at satlug.org  Thu May 28 11:31:03 2009
From: president at satlug.org (Jim Wells, President)
Date: Thu May 28 11:31:06 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] SATLUG Shirts Update
Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0905280931ha0fc607v1dadd449e5ba3da6@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

The SATLUG shirts are SUPPOSED to be ready for pickup May 29th after 1:00.
The place closes at 2:00 so I will do my best to get by there to pick up the
shirts before they close.  I have no idea if they will actually be ready.  I
am going to go under the assumption that they will not actually be ready for
pickup until Monday or Tuesday.

I will do my best to get the shirts picked up tomorrow IF they are ready.

Jim
From lgj at usenix.org  Thu May 28 12:00:58 2009
From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel Garth Jones)
Date: Thu May 28 12:01:00 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] HotCloud '09 Registration Now Open
Message-ID: <DF7A66E6-D9A3-4E47-8731-5EA70C16236D@usenix.org>

We'd like to invite you to the Workshop on Hot Topics in Cloud
Computing (HotCloud '09), taking place in San Diego, CA, June 15, 2009.

HotCloud '09 will discuss challenges in the Cloud Computing paradigm,
including the design, implementation, and deployment of virtualized
clouds.

Join academics and practitioners in sharing experiences, leveraging each
other's perspectives, and identifying new and emerging "hot" trends in
this area.

The program includes sessions on:
* Cloud Platforms and Architectures
* Elastic Clouds and Resource Management
* Storage Cloud and Appliances
* Map Reduce and Cloud Applications
* Panel on Cloud Computing

The full program can be found at
http://www.usenix.org/events/hotcloud09/tech/

Don't miss this opportunity to engage in dynamic discussion on
key topics in the cloud computing community. Register today at
http://www.usenix.org/hotcloud09/proga

HotCloud will be co-located with the 2009 USENIX Annual Technical
Conference (USENIX '09), June 14-19:
http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/

Multiple Conference Savings: Go to both HotCloud '09 and USENIX '09 and
save $100 off your USENIX '09 registration.
Contact the Conference Department at conference@usenix.org to receive
your priority discount code.

NOTE: If you're already registered for USENIX '09, contact the
Conference Department at the email address above to receive your $100
refund.

We look forward to seeing you in San Diego!

Sambit Sahu, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Prashant Shenoy, University of Massachusetts Amherst
HotCloud '09 Program Chairs

----------------------------------
Workshop on Hot Topics in Cloud Computing (HotCloud '09)
June 15, 2009
San Diego, CA
Sponsored by USENIX: The Advanced Computing Systems Association
Register online by Monday, June 8, 2009, noon PDT
http://www.usenix.org/hotcloud/proga
----------------------------------
From riugakusei at aim.com  Thu May 28 12:03:08 2009
From: riugakusei at aim.com (riugakusei@aim.com)
Date: Thu May 28 12:03:49 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] uvc module
Message-ID: <8CBADCD4F73330E-7C4-15CB@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com>

?hi i have an built-in webcam on my hp laptop... its detected i loaded the uvc module... but all i get its ablack screen... any advice here
?
linux-klc6:~ # lsusb
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f2:b015 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd VGA 24fps UVC Webcam
?i went to the uvcvideo website n it its supported .... 
i ended up sing ndiswrapper for my atheros? ar5007eg wireless card....
vega
From lgj at usenix.org  Thu May 28 12:44:47 2009
From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel Garth Jones)
Date: Thu May 28 12:44:49 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] HotCloud '09 Registration Now Open
Message-ID: <3CCA840E-4611-46F4-83F3-EA63D6D840E1@usenix.org>

We'd like to invite you to the Workshop on Hot Topics in Cloud
Computing (HotCloud '09), taking place in San Diego, CA, June 15, 2009.

HotCloud '09 will discuss challenges in the Cloud Computing paradigm,
including the design, implementation, and deployment of virtualized
clouds.

Join academics and practitioners in sharing experiences, leveraging each
other's perspectives, and identifying new and emerging "hot" trends in
this area.

The program includes sessions on:
* Cloud Platforms and Architectures
* Elastic Clouds and Resource Management
* Storage Cloud and Appliances
* Map Reduce and Cloud Applications
* Panel on Cloud Computing

The full program can be found at
http://www.usenix.org/events/hotcloud09/tech/

Don't miss this opportunity to engage in dynamic discussion on
key topics in the cloud computing community. Register today at
http://www.usenix.org/hotcloud09/proga

HotCloud will be co-located with the 2009 USENIX Annual Technical
Conference (USENIX '09), June 14-19:
http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/

Multiple Conference Savings: Go to both HotCloud '09 and USENIX '09 and
save $100 off your USENIX '09 registration.
Contact the Conference Department at conference@usenix.org to receive
your priority discount code.

NOTE: If you're already registered for USENIX '09, contact the
Conference Department at the email address above to receive your $100
refund.

We look forward to seeing you in San Diego!

Sambit Sahu, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Prashant Shenoy, University of Massachusetts Amherst
HotCloud '09 Program Chairs

----------------------------------
Workshop on Hot Topics in Cloud Computing (HotCloud '09)
June 15, 2009
San Diego, CA
Sponsored by USENIX: The Advanced Computing Systems Association
Register online by Monday, June 8, 2009, noon PDT
http://www.usenix.org/hotcloud/proga
----------------------------------
From m.a.wallace at gmail.com  Thu May 28 15:52:33 2009
From: m.a.wallace at gmail.com (Mike Wallace)
Date: Thu May 28 15:59:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] CVS Directory Restrictions
Message-ID: <36217ddc0905281352n203473f2yada5f5abf30330e7@mail.gmail.com>

Satluggers,

Is it possible to restrict CVS access to a directory within the repository?
Assume that you have a repository with directories /src, /data, and
/secret.  I want all users to access /src, /data, and their subtrees, but
only certain users to access /secret.  We only need one or two files in the
/secret directory, and didn't want to create a seperate repository for just
one or two files.  The /secret files contain systems information we need for
testing, but we don't want to expose that data to our external clients who
use the product.  However, those files should be a part of version control
as they are a part of our build and test process.  Is there any way to keep
/secret in the repository but have it only visible to certain users?  TIA,

Mike
From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Thu May 28 16:00:56 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Thu May 28 16:00:59 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <452541.91839.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <452541.91839.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A1EFB88.9050304@gmail.com>

Enrique Sanchez Vela wrote:
> 
> as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access the group's website and
> discussion list on the web, I get an error message, I've tried accessing the
> group's web page and archive list from a different network and it works like
> a charm.

I am doing some blocking of IP addresses due to spam.  This may be overly 
agressive.  What's your  IP address?

   -- Bruce

From esanchezvela at yahoo.com  Thu May 28 17:21:16 2009
From: esanchezvela at yahoo.com (Enrique Sanchez Vela)
Date: Thu May 28 17:21:18 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
Message-ID: <577136.43961.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com>
> > 
> > as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access the
> group's website and
> > discussion list on the web, I get an error message,
> I've tried accessing the
> > group's web page and archive list from a different
> network and it works like
> > a charm.
> 
> I am doing some blocking of IP addresses due to spam.?
> This may be overly agressive.? What's your? IP
> address?
> 
> ? -- Bruce
> 

96.8.199.188, netmask is 255.255.252.0

thnx

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From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Thu May 28 17:25:20 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Thu May 28 17:25:30 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <577136.43961.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <577136.43961.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A1F0F50.3000704@gmail.com>

Enrique Sanchez Vela wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com>
>>> as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access the
>> group's website and
>>> discussion list on the web, I get an error message,
>> I've tried accessing the
>>> group's web page and archive list from a different
>> network and it works like
>>> a charm.
>> I am doing some blocking of IP addresses due to spam. 
>> This may be overly agressive.  What's your  IP
>> address?
>>
>>   -- Bruce
>>
> 
> 96.8.199.188, netmask is 255.255.252.0

You should be able to access SATLUG now.

   -- Bruce
From gregswift at gmail.com  Thu May 28 19:16:33 2009
From: gregswift at gmail.com (Greg Swift)
Date: Thu May 28 19:16:36 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <4A1F0F50.3000704@gmail.com>
References: <577136.43961.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4A1F0F50.3000704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4e3f91d70905281716l732ef789p864a7504aafdc1dd@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 17:25, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Enrique Sanchez Vela wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  From: Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> as I mentioned b4, everytime I try to access the
>>>>
>>> group's website and
>>>
>>>> discussion list on the web, I get an error message,
>>>>
>>> I've tried accessing the
>>>
>>>> group's web page and archive list from a different
>>>>
>>> network and it works like
>>>
>>>> a charm.
>>>>
>>> I am doing some blocking of IP addresses due to spam. This may be overly
>>> agressive.  What's your  IP
>>> address?
>>>
>>>  -- Bruce
>>>
>>>
>> 96.8.199.188, netmask is 255.255.252.0
>>
>
> You should be able to access SATLUG now.
>
> The entire GVTC netblock is 96.8.128.0 netmask 255.255.128.0


-greg
From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Thu May 28 19:26:14 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Thu May 28 19:26:15 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <899921.89038.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


After using memtest86, its at 74% complete, test #7 found 89 errors.  I'll see if I have any of this memory laying around so I can replace it.

-Alex


      
From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com  Thu May 28 19:36:48 2009
From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs)
Date: Thu May 28 19:37:02 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <4e3f91d70905281716l732ef789p864a7504aafdc1dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <577136.43961.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<4A1F0F50.3000704@gmail.com>
	<4e3f91d70905281716l732ef789p864a7504aafdc1dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A1F2E20.2000004@gmail.com>

Greg Swift wrote:

>> The entire GVTC netblock is 96.8.128.0 netmask 255.255.128.0

32K addresses is less than a class B block.  Seem kinda small.  In any case, its 
opened up.

   -- Bruce
From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Thu May 28 20:15:35 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Thu May 28 20:15:38 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <32712.63193.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


sorry for spamming the list with updates but I figured I'd keep you'all posted.

I took the system to the garage and used my air compressor to blow out the dust and stuff.  I took the memory out and blew out the contacts there also.  I gambled and only inserted two 512m sticks and kept the 256m out figuring it would be the bad stick.  So far I'm at 94% installing, no problems.  It doesnt mean the stick was bad, it could have just been the dust.  So far so good.


--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> After using memtest86, its at 74% complete, test #7 found
> 89 errors.? I'll see if I have any of this memory
> laying around so I can replace it.



      
From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Thu May 28 20:19:27 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Thu May 28 20:19:29 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <591357.7914.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


ok all done.  Going to copy the tarball of her old stuff over and viola.  Ready to rock n roll!!

Alex

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:15 PM
> 
> sorry for spamming the list with updates but I figured I'd
> keep you'all posted.
> 
> I took the system to the garage and used my air compressor
> to blow out the dust and stuff.? I took the memory out
> and blew out the contacts there also.? I gambled and
> only inserted two 512m sticks and kept the 256m out figuring
> it would be the bad stick.? So far I'm at 94%
> installing, no problems.? It doesnt mean the stick was
> bad, it could have just been the dust.? So far so
> good.
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > After using memtest86, its at 74% complete, test #7
> found
> > 89 errors.? I'll see if I have any of this memory
> > laying around so I can replace it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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From jtiner at satx.rr.com  Thu May 28 21:08:54 2009
From: jtiner at satx.rr.com (James Tiner)
Date: Thu May 28 21:09:10 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
In-Reply-To: <591357.7914.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <591357.7914.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1243562934.9015.0.camel@james-desktop>

Alex,

what kind of memory does she use?


On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 18:19 -0700, Alex Bartonek wrote:
> ok all done.  Going to copy the tarball of her old stuff over and viola.  Ready to rock n roll!!
> 
> Alex
> 
> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> > Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:15 PM
> > 
> > sorry for spamming the list with updates but I figured I'd
> > keep you'all posted.
> > 
> > I took the system to the garage and used my air compressor
> > to blow out the dust and stuff.  I took the memory out
> > and blew out the contacts there also.  I gambled and
> > only inserted two 512m sticks and kept the 256m out figuring
> > it would be the bad stick.  So far I'm at 94%
> > installing, no problems.  It doesnt mean the stick was
> > bad, it could have just been the dust.  So far so
> > good.
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > After using memtest86, its at 74% complete, test #7
> > found
> > > 89 errors.  I'll see if I have any of this memory
> > > laying around so I can replace it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > SATLUG mailing list
> > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > unsubscribe
> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > 
> 
> 
>       

From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com  Thu May 28 21:34:17 2009
From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek)
Date: Thu May 28 21:34:19 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
Message-ID: <465703.81293.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


PC133.  She said she has a 512M at her house so when I meet up with her tomorrow she will install it when she gets it home.  I'll just have her bring it so I can install it when meet her by her house.

-Alex


--- On Thu, 5/28/09, James Tiner <jtiner@satx.rr.com> wrote:

> From: James Tiner <jtiner@satx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 9:08 PM
> Alex,
> 
> what kind of memory does she use?
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 18:19 -0700, Alex Bartonek wrote:
> > ok all done.? Going to copy the tarball of her
> old stuff over and viola.? Ready to rock n roll!!
> > 
> > Alex
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Cheryl's System Crash
> > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing
> List" <satlug@satlug.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 8:15 PM
> > > 
> > > sorry for spamming the list with updates but I
> figured I'd
> > > keep you'all posted.
> > > 
> > > I took the system to the garage and used my air
> compressor
> > > to blow out the dust and stuff.? I took the
> memory out
> > > and blew out the contacts there also.? I
> gambled and
> > > only inserted two 512m sticks and kept the 256m
> out figuring
> > > it would be the bad stick.? So far I'm at
> 94%
> > > installing, no problems.? It doesnt mean the
> stick was
> > > bad, it could have just been the dust.? So
> far so
> > > good.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Alex Bartonek <bartonekdragracing@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > After using memtest86, its at 74% complete,
> test #7
> > > found
> > > > 89 errors.? I'll see if I have any of
> this memory
> > > > laying around so I can replace it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SATLUG mailing list
> > > SATLUG@satlug.org
> > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to
> > > unsubscribe
> > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> >? ? ???
> 
> -- 
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From gregswift at gmail.com  Thu May 28 21:39:37 2009
From: gregswift at gmail.com (Greg Swift)
Date: Thu May 28 21:39:40 2009
Subject: [SATLUG] accessing satlug.org from GVTC's network.
In-Reply-To: <4A1F2E20.2000004@gmail.com>
Re